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[Mobotium]

1 minute ago, Stormwolf said:

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Its simply not acceptable. If thought murder was a crime then we'd all be in jail. The unsung hero self sacrificing himself is just a super japanese cliche which i'll never understand. Point is that to my western brain, this vn lead to a ridiculos conclusion. At the end of the day Takeru is innocent, and after all he's been through i did want to see him get a happy end, or at least not a depressing one. 

 

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As I said, I can understand your point of view. However, I can also understand the idea of wanting to atone for what you caused. You don't have to accept it but ultimately, he did it because he wanted to. His end is not a depressing one in his eyes. He saved the people he wanted to save, gave a future to the one person who supported him the most all his life, and is being sent to prison of his own will. For him, this is all he wanted, and thus, it is a happy end.

A story does not have to make the reader happy and a happy end does not have to be one the reader desires. Because, as C;C really wants to explain, the world we see is the boundary between reality and lies. Though his mindset may not be one you can accept or understand, that does not make it worthless. It just means he sees reality in a diferent way than you do.

 

[Stormwolf]

6 minutes ago, Mobotium said:

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As I said, I can understand your point of view. However, I can also understand the idea of wanting to atone for what you caused. You don't have to accept it but ultimately, he did it because he wanted to. His end is not a depressing one in his eyes. He saved the people he wanted to save, gave a future to the one person who supported him the most all his life, and is being sent to prison of his own will. For him, this is all he wanted, and thus, it is a happy end.

A story does not have to make the reader happy and a happy end does not have to be one the reader desires. Because, as C;C really wants to explain, the world we see is the boundary between reality and lies. Though his mindset may not be one you can accept or understand, that does not make it worthless. It just means he sees reality in a diferent way than you do.

 

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He didnt cause anything though. If we're assigning blame then the chaos head cast is to blame. Havent read that one though. Takeru was a victim just as much as anyone. Well, a lot more of a victim actually. But i guess this is more of a philosophical question really so it can be interpreted differently

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[Mobotium]

1 minute ago, Stormwolf said:

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He didnt cause anything though. If we're assigning blame then the chaos head cast is to blame. Havent read that one though. Takeru was a victim just as much as anyone. Well, a lot more of a victim actually. But i guess this is more of a philosophical question really so it can be interpreted differently

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Yeah, pretty much.

 

[ChaosRaven]

4 hours ago, Stormwolf said:

Started reading Midori no Umi you, but the translation is seriously throwing me off. I honestly think sakuragame has been using google translate quite liberally here.

No doubt about that - it's most likely an edited machine translation or at least a machine assisted translation. I'm only going through that mess because I wanted to read it in Japanese with a text hooker anyway. Certainly not a release I'd recomment anyone to read with even the slightest translation standards. 

[Stormwolf]

Just now, ChaosRaven said:

No doubt about that - it's most likely an edited machine translation or at least a machine assisted translation. I'm only going through that mess because I wanted to read it in Japanese with a text hooker anyway. Certainly not a release I'd recomment anyone to read with even the slightest translation standards. 

Its kind of weird though. I cant follow certain dialogues but i follow the story as a whole. One big mistake in one line might correct itself in the next, which makes me understand it. Its terrible yes, but readable if you really want to read it.

[alpacaman]

2 hours ago, Mobotium said:

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With regards to Takuru pinning himself as the criminal, he feels at fault for the murders and taking the blame for them is his way to atone. Ultimately the murders were done for him, just so he would feel special and superior to others, and he blames himself for wishing that they would continue even as his own loved ones were harmed in the process.

 

Serika was, through the common route, never really a person. She was a tool to fulfill Takuru's desires, and everything she did was to that end. To blame her for anything that happened is to miss the whole point of the novel imo. She was less a murderer than she was the murder weapon.

 

They would not be able to be together at the end. The two separating is what enables them to live normal lives. Takuru wants to be apart from her so he is never tempted to repeat his past mistakes, and so she would finally be able to live as her own person.

 

The whole C;C Syndrome twist ties into most of C;C's main themes. Syndrome patients live in their own fabricated reality, where they can be free of the persecution they are targets of in the real world. In this way, like most of the novel, it functions as a critique on the way people cherry-pick information that suits their viewpoints, and how that same information can be manipulated along with those who rely on it. That's the whole point of Wakui's plan after all, to see how much people would delude themselves into happiness by cherry-picking only what they want to see, ignoring what might cause them stress or lead them to question the world they see as true. Because, ultimately, the world one sees is not the real world. It is shaped by our thoughts, misconceptions, and opinions. That is also the biggest thing to take from the heroine routes.

 

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"Everyone creates their own reality" doesn't really work as a message though when the people who create them suffer from a supernatural disease that makes them delusional. It's an interesting concept for a sci-fi story, but not something that lends itself to making some philosphical point. Even if there was a possibility of including some meaningful aesop, having the reader skip for more than one hour through stuff they've already seen to read more or less 10 hours of mediocre side stories isn't the best way to go about it imo.

Also, I get that the VN wants Serika to be seen as a tool, but there is no indication Takuru wished for anything close to what she did. Wanting to make his parents go away was obviously referring to him not wanting to deal with them. If there was any indication in the VN that Takuru had repressed sadistic urges the real-booted Serika was a manifestation of and that he found some degree of satisfaction in the things she did, fine, but he comes of as pretty well adjusted for someone in his circumstances. When he makes his wish he's 12(?) years old and understandably unable to cope with everything going on because of the earthquake and other than that there are no instances where he's taking delight in someone else suffering or something like that beyond a little schadenfreude.

 

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[ChaosRaven]

11 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

Its kind of weird though. I cant follow certain dialogues but i follow the story as a whole. One big mistake in one line might correct itself in the next, which makes me understand it. Its terrible yes, but readable if you really want to read it.

Yes, that's pretty much how I approach all my Japanese VN's as well. I also find the voices very helpful for understanding the dialogs, because mood and subtle meanings are often communicated via vocal accentuations and not necessarily through the text.

[Stormwolf]

Just now, ChaosRaven said:

Yes, that's pretty much how I approach all my Japanese VN's as well. I also find the voices very helpful for understanding the dialogs, because mood and subtle meanings are often communicated via vocal accentuations and not necessarily through the text.

Yep, same here. A shame it doesnt work for the protagonist though :/

[Mobotium]

10 minutes ago, alpacaman said:

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"Everyone creates their own reality" doesn't really work as a message though when the people who create them suffer from a supernatural disease that makes them delusional. It's an interesting concept for a sci-fi story, but not something that lends itself to making some philosphical point. Even if there was a possibility of including some meaningful aesop, having the reader skip for more than one hour through stuff they've already seen to read more or less 10 hours of mediocre side stories isn't the best way to go about it imo.

Also, I get that the VN wants Serika to be seen as a tool, but there is no indication Takuru wished for anything close to what she did. Wanting to make his parents go away was obviously referring to him not wanting to deal with them. If there was any indication in the VN that Takuru had repressed sadistic urges the real-booted Serika was a manifestation of and that he found some degree of satisfaction in the things she did, fine, but he comes of as pretty well adjusted for someone in his circumstances. When he makes his wish he's 12(?) years old and understandably unable to cope with everything going on because of the earthquake and other than that there are no instances where he's taking delight in someone else suffering or something like that beyond a little schadenfreude.

 

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The syndrome is just a representation of the message itself, it's not meant to be the message. The concept at its core is that all people view reality differently based on their experiences, thoughts, senses, etc and so that, ultimately, reality is in the eye of the beholder. Also, the idea of skipping to get to routes is so common in the VN medium in general that I can't understand your point.

 

There are indications. Takuru wished for her to help him do what he wants, and she was created out of that wish. Saying that him wanting his parents to go away meant not having to deal with them is obvious, but how else would a recently created entity that embodies his desires fulfill that wish? If killing his parents ultimately led to his happiness, as it did, it seems like a perfectly reasonable action to take.

 

He does not take delight in other's suffering. What he does take delight in is in feeling superior to others. And at the peak of this desire are the murders that preceded the earthquake. He idolized the person who turned the case on its head proving he was not the killer as everyone, even the police, tought. His desire is ultimately for recognition. He wants to be known as superior to those around him. And that case symbolizes the ultimate expression of that desire.

 

So he does not have to enjoy the murders themselves and neither does Serika, the manifestation of his desire. In fact, she makes it clear even in the common route that she found the killings themselves disgusting and sick, but was willing to go through them because the case had to be absurd enough to draw as much attention to itself as possible. All that mattered was that Takuru was interested in the case, that he felt the excitement of it slowly closing in on him, the despair of being marked as the perpetrator and the ultimate feeling of superiority as he proved to all those wrong-siders that he was the only one who had reached the truth.

 

[alpacaman]

28 minutes ago, Mobotium said:

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The syndrome is just a representation of the message itself, it's not meant to be the message. The concept at its core is that all people view reality differently based on their experiences, thoughts, senses, etc and so that, ultimately, reality is in the eye of the beholder. Also, the idea of skipping to get to routes is so common in the VN medium in general that I can't understand your point.

 

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The syndrome doesn't represent the message though. What it basically says is "people suffering from a psychosis (or whatever you want to call it) see the world differently from others". If they hadn't been sick, they would have seen everything more or less the same way Mio and Takeshi did. And when you take away the characters suffering from the syndrome, there isn't that much left in the VN to convey the message.

My point about the time spent on side routes is that the VN takes more than 10 hours of your time to tell you close to nothing. The heroines had different delusions from the protagonist. So what?

 

1 hour ago, Mobotium said:

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There are indications. Takuru wished for her to help him do what he wants, and she was created out of that wish. Saying that him wanting his parents to go away meant not having to deal with them is obvious, but how else would a recently created entity that embodies his desires fulfill that wish? If killing his parents ultimately led to his happiness, as it did, it seems like a perfectly reasonable action to take.

 

He does not take delight in other's suffering. What he does take delight in is in feeling superior to others. And at the peak of this desire are the murders that preceded the earthquake. He idolized the person who turned the case on its head proving he was not the killer as everyone, even the police, tought. His desire is ultimately for recognition. He wants to be known as superior to those around him. And that case symbolizes the ultimate expression of that desire.

 

So he does not have to enjoy the murders themselves and neither does Serika, the manifestation of his desire. In fact, she makes it clear even in the common route that she found the killings themselves disgusting and sick, but was willing to go through them because the case had to be absurd enough to draw as much attention to itself as possible. All that mattered was that Takuru was interested in the case, that he felt the excitement of it slowly closing in on him, the despair of being marked as the perpetrator and the ultimate feeling of superiority as he proved to all those wrong-siders that he was the only one who had reached the truth.

 

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If this isn't incredibly convoluted for a motive, I don't know what is. If you go this route, you can turn almost everone's deepest wishes into a reason for mass murder. Imagine Takuru was a peace activist and his hero was Mahatma Gandhi. Serika probably would have founded a colonial power and conquered Japan just so Takuru could become the leader of peaceful protests and free his people.

 

[Mobotium]

 

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The syndrome doesn't represent the message though. What it basically says is "people suffering from a psychosis (or whatever you want to call it) see the world differently from others". If they hadn't been sick, they would have seen everything more or less the same way Mio and Takeshi did. And when you take away the characters suffering from the syndrome, there isn't that much left in the VN to convey the message.

My point about the time spent on side routes is that the VN takes more than 10 hours of your time to tell you close to nothing. The heroines had different delusions from the protagonist. So what?

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Well, let me go through the some things in the novel that work to convey this message:

 

The whole idea of gigalomania is to make delusions reality, to take the world you believe to be true and make others see it as real.

 

The concept of a wrong-sider is someone who is content with low quality information. In the novel they are the average net user, making stupid comments and theories about things they don't understand. In other words, they make the wrong conclusions based on their limited worldview. It ties in directly with the message, and is present is numerous situations in the story.

 

Itou being confused at his classmates not caring about the murders happening so close to them.

 

Takuru's classmates sneering at him, but later changing the way they treated him due to their perspective of him also changing and, thus, changing his perspective of them.

 

Takuru's reaction when he was lied to about his parent's death.

 

The reaction Takuru had to threads about his sister's death, or when his family's information was posted online, compared to the reactions of the people commenting on those threads.

 

The whole thing about psychopaths at the end of the common route, how they simply see the world differently.

 

The entire true route is Serika interpreting what she learns based on what she knows and it shows a big contrast between her worldview and the one the other characters, and the reader, have based on the information they have access to.

 

Many of these and other possible examples are simple and, perhaps, minor. But they all show how different minds interpret the same thing in different ways based on their own ideas and experiences.

 

The heroine routes all work to convey this as well:

 

In Arimura's route the value of truth is put into question. In her world, lies are the greatest sin, and truth is what she desires. She cannot comprehend the value of a white lie, and that ultimately leads to what remained of her family breaking apart. You could argue that she would never have know it was a lie without her powers, but the fact stands that in her mind she would never have accepted it.

 

Hana's route is a whole other perspective on the world. A fantastical story with monsters, heroes and a final boss to defeat, much like the games and movies she immerses herself in. That is the world she knows best, and the world she retreats to in loneliness and guilt.

 

Uki lives for others. Her world is filled with kind people who would do no wrong to her or others. It is how she sees others, or rather, how she chooses to see them.

 

Nono is filled with self-deprecation and doubt. In her mind, Kawahara has always hated the real her, loved the fake her, and in general represents her self hatred. Towards Serika she is jealous, as she treasures her ties with her adopted brother and is jealous of his reliance on Serika. Her idea of Serika is a selfish girl who lives not for Takuru as she claims, but for herself. Which obviously contrasts with her real personality.

 

All of these routes show us the worlds the heroines desire, and give us a glimpse into the way they see others and how they interpret situations and the world around them. The syndrome is merely a more forced representation of the same idea. Especially when you consider that it is something the patients wished for, wherever knowingly or not.

 

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If this isn't incredibly convoluted for a motive, I don't know what is. If you go this route, you can turn almost everone's deepest wishes into a reason for mass murder. Imagine Takuru was a peace activist and his hero was Mahatma Gandhi. Serika probably would have founded a colonial power and conquered Japan just so Takuru could become the leader of peaceful protests and free his people.

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I think it's pretty clear cut to be honest. He desired to be special, to stand above others. And what he considered the ultimate resolution of that wish was the plot Serika followed. In a alternate universe where the thing he most desired was to stand up to a oppressive regime, Serika might very well have worked to create a oppressive regime if none existed in the first place. That was her purpose after all.

[alpacaman]

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The syndrome doesn't represent the message though. What it basically says is "people suffering from a psychosis (or whatever you want to call it) see the world differently from others". If they hadn't been sick, they would have seen everything more or less the same way Mio and Takeshi did. And when you take away the characters suffering from the syndrome, there isn't that much left in the VN to convey the message.

My point about the time spent on side routes is that the VN takes more than 10 hours of your time to tell you close to nothing. The heroines had different delusions from the protagonist. So what?

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All of these routes show us the worlds the heroines desire, and give us a glimpse into the way they see others and how they interpret situations and the world around them. The syndrome is merely a more forced representation of the same idea. Especially when you consider that it is something the patients wished for, wherever knowingly or not.

 

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Most of what you're describing are either character motivations or people reacting to new or incomplete information. If C;C didn't contain these things, the twist undermining the themes of the VN would be its least problem. And the rest basically comes down to "people are ignorant".

I'll admit that Hinae's power and Nono's route actually have interesting ideas. The "different perspectives" theme doesn't hold up though when there never is any ambiguity in the story. In the reality of the narrative there's always a right and a wrong side. The premise of people being able to change reality through the way the view the world is an extremely interesting one. But C;C neither properly explores this premise nor works as a straightforward thriller and instead goes for the message "people are different".

Another (probably unintended) aesop I took from C;C is "never have an egoistical thought, even as a child, or people will die." Young Takuru wants to be admired -> everyone he loves gets killed. Hinae wants her mother to not lie to her -> mother turns crazy six years later and goes on a killing spree. Takuru doesn't want to get killed and asks Hana for help -> Huge mosters appear and kill passengers. Senri wants to be someone more popular -> she gets taken in by a psychopathic killer. Not to speak of all the victims of chaos child syndrome who sometimes got killed and - even worse - turned into elderly people.

 

[Mobotium]

11 hours ago, alpacaman said:

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Most of what you're describing are either character motivations or people reacting to new or incomplete information. If C;C didn't contain these things, the twist undermining the themes of the VN would be its least problem. And the rest basically comes down to "people are ignorant".

I'll admit that Hinae's power and Nono's route actually have interesting ideas. The "different perspectives" theme doesn't hold up though when there never is any ambiguity in the story. In the reality of the narrative there's always a right and a wrong side. The premise of people being able to change reality through the way the view the world is an extremely interesting one. But C;C neither properly explores this premise nor works as a straightforward thriller and instead goes for the message "people are different".

Another (probably unintended) aesop I took from C;C is "never have an egoistical thought, even as a child, or people will die." Young Takuru wants to be admired -> everyone he loves gets killed. Hinae wants her mother to not lie to her -> mother turns crazy six years later and goes on a killing spree. Takuru doesn't want to get killed and asks Hana for help -> Huge mosters appear and kill passengers. Senri wants to be someone more popular -> she gets taken in by a psychopathic killer. Not to speak of all the victims of chaos child syndrome who sometimes got killed and - even worse - turned into elderly people.

 

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Ignorance, motivations, misunderstandings and miscommunications all have a part in this. The fact that such things are expected parts of the average story does not invalidate that they take a bigger role in this particular one. The idea that people see things differently is heavily related to the flow of information in this novel, as exemplified by the concept of wrong-siders and right-siders.

 

The syndrome, at its core, forces a change in perspective in those affected by it and leads them to see and understand reality differently. The same is true of the heroine routes, where their own perspectives change how they see and comprehend reality. Both of these are plot devices to put that same concept into perspective. Ultimately, I agree you can summarize the idea as "people are different". It is a simple and, perhaps, obvious concept, but one that is worth understanding nonetheless especially considering how relevant it is in modern society. The novel then constructs various social criticism based on this idea, combined with concepts like the flow of information, the enlightened generation, the internet in general and mob mentality. To me, this construction is done in a good and meaningful way.

 

As for your aesop (had to look that up), the idea seems so removed from the rest of the novel that I can only assume it's unintended.

 

[Stormwolf]

Midori no umi

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Fuck this vn is retarded. Its quite awesome in the beginning and middle stages, but everyone starts acting like retards in the last routes. Innocent people gets murdered since the beginning (even mc gets murdered by the main girl when she tricks him into thinking she would help him to get away), and towards the end the people figure out who's the killers, but they dobt seem to care. They still talk to them as usual and respect at least one of them. Im getting a headache from this idiocy.

 

[Larxe1]

On the latter part of Sorceress Alive. Definitely no regrets playing this. If I didn't have exams tomorrow, I would probably binge this until I finish it. It's an ambitious game that tries too be a lot of things. It tries to be at the same scale of Muv-luv Alternative but seriously it lacks the production values MLA had, so it dampened the enjoyment a bit. After I finish this game I'll try to post on the blog again

[alpacaman]

So I read Aviary Attorney, and basically it's Ace Attorney with BoJack Horseman's sense of humor and a pretty unique art style set in France in 1848. The gameplay mainly focuses on the investigations and not the actual trials. Aviary Attorney's shortness is its main flaw (Ace A has cases that are longer than all of Aviary A), leaving little time for character development and even most major characters are pretty flat. Still, it's a fun way to spend a few hours, especially if you're suffering from Ace Attorney withdrawal or would like to see a more mature take on the lawyer game genre.

[nihilloligasan]

Katawa Shoujo: completed all of Hanako's route, finished with the bad end. Honestly, her outburst at the end really resonated with me. As someone who has dealt with social inadequacy similar to hers (as well as several underlying mental illnesses), I really hate it when people treat me like a weak child that needs to be protected. So many people have treated me like I'm some kind of alien or exotic animal whenever they heard about my mental illnesses. It's like I wasn't even a person beyond my social anxiety. I'll admit that I was at first wary of how the Hanako route would go since I've seen so many other stories where the token shy character is coddled and patronized. Seeing that the good ending requires you to view Hanako as her own person beyond her trauma and having the bad end rub that in your face felt incredibly cathartic to me. I also completed the Shizune and Lilly routes before this, and I'm surprised how fast it's all going by. Even though I'm not a big fan of romance, it's a pretty great VN so far.

[Ranzo]

Finished all the routes I could stand in Brass Restoration: the only ones left was the childhood friend character and a girl who referred to herself in the third person..so fuck that noise!

It was decent enough for an indie vn made in 2004, the writing could be quite good at times, surprisingly enough.

I also finished playing Void and I thought it was quite good even though it had one of the worst editing jobs I've ever seen(They claimed to have fixed it but since I didn't want to pay for that gamble, the world may never know)

Now I'm going to play Sound of Drop: Fall Into Poison, and I hate that it's not called Sound of the Drop since it's proper grammar and just sounds better.

[Stormwolf]

Majikoi.. cant say im overly fond of it. Some things are hysterical, some things are pretty funny, but the amount of miss humor is big as well. I also feel like the vn goes through some anime checklist of including as many harem type plot cliches as possible. 

I do like most of the characters though. Chris is the exception. The vn would be better without her. She adds nothing and actually ruined a fun group dynamic.

Im not overly fond of all the the yuri fanservice either. And another thing is that none seem into Yamato at all(except the obvious exception), and might rather at times look like they're fond of other guys instead. I wonder how they're going to convince me with the routes. Some one sided realization and spontaneous love confession certainly would not.

 

And yes,

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Who decided to make a bubble headed invalid into the main/true heroine? I haven't reached that part yet obviously, but Koyuki is... Well... Not in any way at all interesting or appealing, and that's being very gentle about it.

 

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[Fred the Barber]

14 hours ago, Stormwolf said:

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Who decided to make a bubble headed invalid into the main/true heroine? I haven't reached that part yet obviously, but Koyuki is... Well... Not in any way at all interesting or appealing, and that's being very gentle about it.

 

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Been a while since I played this, but I'm pretty certain she's not a heroine at all (zero H scenes, zero involvement with Yamato). The last route is... different from the others.

[Stormwolf]

3 hours ago, Fred the Barber said:

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Been a while since I played this, but I'm pretty certain she's not a heroine at all (zero H scenes, zero involvement with Yamato). The last route is... different from the others.

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So this is a case of true route gone wrong. That's certainly a downer. I'd totally go for a unappealing heroine than nothing for the true route. Casual sex is not something that makes up for a lack of central heroine. The vn already has a friendship route, why go for two?

 

[Mr Poltroon]

1 hour ago, Stormwolf said:

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So this is a case of true route gone wrong. That's certainly a downer. I'd totally go for a unappealing heroine than nothing for the true route. Casual sex is not something that makes up for a lack of central heroine. The vn already has a friendship route, why go for two?

The VN has a lot of endings and routes. I can tell you which exist without being too specific:

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There are 5 main routes, 6 sub-routes (3 friendship ones) and 1 hidden route (the one you're referring to), as well as a few other endings. The hidden one is about the Kazama family, instead of focusing on a heroine. That's very much on purpose. You don't need to like that, but there's still routes for everyone else, so it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Stormwolf]

5 minutes ago, Mr Poltroon said:

The VN has a lot of endings and routes. I can tell you which exist without being too specific:

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There are 5 main routes, 6 sub-routes (3 friendship ones) and 1 hidden route (the one you're referring to), as well as a few other endings. The hidden one is about the Kazama family, instead of focusing on a heroine. That's very much on purpose. You don't need to like that, but there's still routes for everyone else, so it shouldn't be a problem.

 

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Just wish creators stop making true routes in vn's such as this. It is considered the true route if i'm not mistaken. Kind of devalues everything other than that particular route and the whole vn if that route lacks appeal.

 

[Mr Poltroon]

1 minute ago, Stormwolf said:

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Just wish creators stop making true routes in vn's such as this. It is considered the true route if i'm not mistaken. Kind of devalues everything other than that particular route and the whole vn if that route lacks appeal.

 

An interesting point of view. Well, no need to worry. You'll never face that problem again with the Majikoi series. The rest of it is kind of bonkers in how it's structured.

[Stormwolf]

2 minutes ago, Mr Poltroon said:

An interesting point of view. Well, no need to worry. You'll never face that problem again with the Majikoi series. The rest of it is kind of bonkers in how it's structured.

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Well, seeing as that is THE end of Majikoi as a story (fandisc routes aside), i don't think i'll ever see it again, thats true