Does anyone else hate it when in an eroge the MC busts out some wild sex positions?

[namiultedjapanXD]

Im dead serious. like some of the shit these MCs come up with in vanilla/vanilla-ish VNs is insane and frankly kinda ruins the mood for me. I've never used H scenes as fap material (there is much better options for that) but I like them because sex is part of a healthy relationship. Some of these positions like Piledriver (during their second time having sex) and shit just has me going "wtf??". There are some other weird ones that I can't be bothered to remember but does anyone else feel me on this point? If its nukige then go wild but come on . . . 

They also always seem pretty rough. Like please stick to the normal type of stuff people would in a new relationship. No need to be pounding their face into the floor, or throat fucking the shit out of them lol.

 

Edit: One of the worst offenses I can remember is in G-Senjou No Mao. The last H scene for the step sister heroine. It had me laughing at how stupid that was.

Edited February 22, 2019 by namiultedjapanXD
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[Nandemonai]

I don't remember too much completely insane H-scenes in VNs (because I go for mostly vanilla anyway), but I do remember the movie A History of Violence, and there's a part in it where something happens (don't remember what, exactly) and the guy's all wound up so he grabs his wife close, and they do it on the stairs.

Really?  On the stairs?  That would be incredibly painful.

[Seraphim]

I’m honestly more annoyed by how protagonists quite often suddenly turn into sadists during h scenes, despite never having shown any such tendencies before.

[PrincessOfFinch]

The funny thing about the piledriver position is that I don't think people normally use that one anyway because it's not really comfortable and it's often just used in porn. So the fact that an MC who's either losing his virginity or it's his second time having sex decides to use that position is odd. But then again, maybe he's just watched a lot of porn lol 

Edited February 22, 2019 by PrincessOfFinch

[PrincessOfFinch]

Also the fact that they seem to know how to fuck and all that is more weird to me than the crazy positions since a lot of people will try to do them because they're using porn as a reference.

[Stormwolf]

Fucking like porn stars from the first fuck. Then cumming like 6 times in a row and boner just getting bigger etc. Majikoi is especially bad. I wonder if it's some unknown gender not having any connection to female or male genitalia writing this nonsense.

[PrincessOfFinch]

11 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

Fucking like porn stars from the first fuck. Then cumming like 6 times in a row and boner just getting bigger etc. Majikoi is especially bad. I wonder if it's some unknown gender not having any connection to female or male genitalia writing this nonsense.

I wonder if the person who wrote it is just thinking how they wish they were like that when they lost their virginity lol 

[Stormwolf]

14 minutes ago, PrincessOfFinch said:

I wonder if the person who wrote it is just thinking how they wish they were like that when they lost their virginity lol 

Yeah, he shouldn't write out his screwed up imaginations of how stuff like this works. Makes him just look both virgin at sex and masturbation. 

[PrincessOfFinch]

Just now, Stormwolf said:

Yeah, he shouldn't write out his screwed up imaginations of how stuff like this works. Makes him just look both virgin at sex and masturbation. 

Yeah especially when the girl has no external stimulation but yet she has orgasms from just regular pounding lol 

[Stormwolf]

Just now, PrincessOfFinch said:

Yeah especially when the girl has no external stimulation but yet she has orgasms from just regular pounding lol 

To be fair, some girls do and some don't. Many arrogant buys with over average dicks pound fruitlessly inside faking girls because their dick is so awesome.

[PrincessOfFinch]

1 minute ago, Stormwolf said:

To be fair, some girls do and some don't. Many arrogant buys with over average dicks pound fruitlessly inside faking girls because their dick is so awesome.

I know that some girls do, but it's not as common as VNs would have you believe. 

[Stormwolf]

1 minute ago, PrincessOfFinch said:

I know that some girls do, but it's not as common as VNs would have you believe. 

Nope, it's not. luckily some vn's have clitoral stimulation during fucking. Or other form for stimulation than just pounding away.

[PrincessOfFinch]

Just now, Stormwolf said:

Nope, it's not. luckily some vn's have clitoral stimulation during fucking. Or other form for stimulation than just pounding away.

Which ones?

[Stormwolf]

Man, i can't bring examples out of my head like that. I've seen it multiple times. But it's not often and might just be for 1 of 3/4 scenes.

[PrincessOfFinch]

5 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

Man, i can't bring examples out of my head like that. I've seen it multiple times. But it's not often and might just be for 1 of 3/4 scenes.

I rest my case lol joking 

[mitchhamilton]

im playing a vn that takes place in highschool where the mc befriends a fairy from a dead apple tree who tries to find him love, i think i can hand some crazy sex positions. 

[namiultedjapanXD]

25 minutes ago, mitchhamilton said:

im playing a vn that takes place in highschool where the mc befriends a fairy from a dead apple tree who tries to find him love, i think i can hand some crazy sex positions. 

Its just annoying when the MC and a heroine who are discovering each other in a vanilla story go right to some hardcore porn positions. You can't just throw that in like that. It goes against the entire story. If both the MC and heroine are experienced and want to do something different then it would make sense, but thats never the case. The scene leading up to is always like a super romantic moment and they're kissing and BAM. Hes got her upside down on her head while he tries to fuck her into the ground.

[Plk_Lesiak]

Sadly, porn is porn. It's always oriented towards maximum visibility, with length and sequences focused on giving you a good fap rather than expressing something meaningful or staying true to the characters. That's why I think it's a damn shame there's so few softcore/17+ VNs with non-explicit erotic segments. Hentai as a formula is simply not compatible with having realistic/story-oriented sex scenes and in most cases, even the developers and writers of VNs don't pretend they aren't tacked-on fanservice.

^ and this, ladies and gentlemen, how I would lose 100 karma on r/visualnovels

Edited February 22, 2019 by Plk_Lesiak

[PrincessOfFinch]

5 minutes ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

Sadly, porn is porn. It's always oriented towards maximum visibility, with length and sequences focused on giving you a good fap rather than expressing something meaningful or staying true to the characters. That's why I think it's a damn shame there's so few softcore/17+ VNs with non-explicit erotic segments. Hentai as a formula is simply not compatible with having realistic/story-oriented sex scenes and in most cases, even the developers and writers of VNs don't pretend they aren't tacked-on fanservice.

^ and this, ladies and gentlemen, how I would lose 100 karma on r/visualnovels

You'd only lose 100 karma because people don't like the truth lol

[adamstan]

What @Plk_Lesiak said - that's porn for ya...

It annoys me too.

9 minutes ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

That's why I think it's a damn shame there's so few softcore/17+ VNs with non-explicit erotic segments. Hentai as a formula is simply not compatible with having realistic/story-oriented sex scenes and in most cases, even the developers and writers of VNs don't pretend they aren't tacked-on fanservice.

+1

That's what made me prefer well done "non-H" versions (like Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na -Brighter than Dawning Blue- or Steam version of Sanoba Witch).  It also makes me appreciate those few VNs where sex scenes don't stick out like a sore thumb even more.

Edited February 22, 2019 by adamstan

[PrincessOfFinch]

When I first started playing VNs, I will admit that I always hoped for an 18+ version of the game, and probably wouldn't really play it if there wasn't one.  I realised a while later how stupid that was since the H-scenes are blegh most of the time when they don't add to anything. I mostly just like the art and all that if the art is generally good but I prefer VNs to not really have them now. 

Edited February 22, 2019 by PrincessOfFinch

[namiultedjapanXD]

12 minutes ago, PrincessOfFinch said:

When I first started playing VNs, I will admit that I always hoped for an 18+ version of the game, and probably wouldn't really play it if there wasn't one.  I realised a while later how stupid that was since the H-scenes are blegh most of the time when they don't add to anything. I mostly just like the art and all that if the art is generally good but I prefer VNs to not really have them now. 

Idk why but I don't play VNs unless its 18+. Even though I don't get much if all from the h scenes I just prefer them in there.

[Seraphim]

In most cases, I don't really mind if h scenes are removed, since they usually don't add any weight to the story, but it becomes a problem for me when they expand upon this and start altering the script even for scenes that aren't really explicit in the first place. *cough*MoeNovel*cough*

[Yuuko]

Eroge is made for porn. Porn will always be porn. If you want vanilla sex scenes I recommend shoujo manga no joke.

[Stormwolf]

6 hours ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

Sadly, porn is porn. It's always oriented towards maximum visibility, with length and sequences focused on giving you a good fap rather than expressing something meaningful or staying true to the characters. That's why I think it's a damn shame there's so few softcore/17+ VNs with non-explicit erotic segments. Hentai as a formula is simply not compatible with having realistic/story-oriented sex scenes and in most cases, even the developers and writers of VNs don't pretend they aren't tacked-on fanservice.

^ and this, ladies and gentlemen, how I would lose 100 karma on r/visualnovels

Its not as clear cut and black and white that we can say porn is porn. Regular porn has no story, vn's are usually story based with a touch of porn. It should never have been porn in the first place, just descriptions or softcore porn to keep it in line with the rest of the vn. Shy girls turning into absolute sluts, som3what jealous mc not wanting other men seeing his girl in swimsuits etc just to furiously bang said chick completely nude in the open saying stuff like "it doesnt matter if we get caught" etc a while later. Stuff like that completely breaks both characters and the flow of the story. I wish the writers were a bit more mindful of the story context being regarded in h scenes as well.