Light is considering to translate Silverio Vendetta and Senshinkan

[Formlose Gestalt]

A user asked the Japanese Twitter of Light (the creators of Dies Irea) about Silverio Vendetta and Soushuu Senshinkan Gakuen Hachimyoujin or more specifically about both series and they answered in English.

Here is what they said:

https://twitter.com/light_staff_tw/status/1268532698336784387

and

https://twitter.com/light_staff_tw/status/1268532937592537089

and lastly

https://twitter.com/light_staff_tw/status/1268533041565220864

 

Since their parent Company Greenwood shut down last year, we didn't know if there is any chance for the Light catalogue to see a translation. So this is really good news and if you have any interest in these titles or titles like Dies irae or Fate/Stay Night, please consider telling them on twitter to let them know that there is interest! They also ask about ideas of how to make it happen.

Edited July 5, 2020 by Formlose Gestalt

[ChaosRaven]

Isn't Light supposed to have gone down with their owner Greenwood? They sound pretty lively and full of plans for a dead company. 

Though the Silverio series certainly sounds interesting.

[senhua1980]

For Silverio and others if they want to try, I think Kickstarter still the best way + maybe collaborate with JAST for marketing and distributing? (as Venus Blood Style release still the fastest and best one IMO)

[Clephas]

4 hours ago, ChaosRaven said:

Isn't Light supposed to have gone down with their owner Greenwood? They sound pretty lively and full of plans for a dead company. 

Though the Silverio series certainly sounds interesting.

There is a good possibility that they got bought out when Greenwood offloaded their assets.  Akabeisoft2 is currently the most likely culprit, lol.

[Formlose Gestalt]

15 hours ago, ChaosRaven said:

Isn't Light supposed to have gone down with their owner Greenwood? They sound pretty lively and full of plans for a dead company. 

Though the Silverio series certainly sounds interesting.

Silverio Ragnarok (the 3rd game in the series) was already in production when the parent company of Light Greenwood went under. Even in the statement of closing down they alluded to a plan to still finish Silverio Ragnarok, and that came true with the help of Ares, the parent company of Windmill. (They are also listed on the page for 1st and 2nd game but I don't what role they played back then, possible the All Age console releases?) At some point apparently also Nexton got involved in getting Silverio Ragnarok out. Silverio Raganarok released this year in April a year after Greenwood closed down and the Twitter account has been active all this time to promote Silverio Raganrok. We also know that the store of Light has been handled by Akabei Soft since Greenwood closed down. (That was in the statement when they closed down.)

So in the end we don't really know who holds the licenses for Light games and who we are talking to on Twitter, but Light as we know it doesn't exist anymore. Masada and G Yuusuke are working on Avestan, the story that was supposed to become Pantheon. I don't know if the team behind the Silverio series is still around after finishing Raganrok for example.

My guess is that we talked to someone from the Ares side of the Business that probably have the Silverio rights (maybe not alone who knows) and that's why the person said:

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Regarding the localization plan for the "相州戦神館學園 Series" which you asked me about, I am also thinking about it now, but I haven't decided yet. Because the company that owns the rights to the game was not in a position to consider localization.

That sounds like the rights to Senshinkan series are in different hands and that company doesn't have the means to do a translation. (In contrast to the Silverio series). But who knows. That is only my interpretation.

At least we know that the rights to Silverio and Senshinkan are in someone's hands and they are considering translating them and looking for feedback. That is at least better than what we knew before and the rights don't look they are in limbo or in the hands of company that doesn't want to do anything with them. Of course that doesn't mean that anything comes out of this.

Edited July 6, 2020 by Formlose Gestalt

[Narcosis]

If I remember correctly form the past, most that remained of Light went under AkabeiSoft's wings - most likely in an attempt to secure talents - but there's no official statement regarding their current legal status. The sole fact they're still operating under their original brand name means they must have been given some degree of freedom/independency to pursue their own projects.

Regardless, no one will buy these vns aside from a small circle of rabid fans. I don't even know what's there to discuss.

Edited July 5, 2020 by Narcosis

[Clephas]

23 minutes ago, Narcosis said:

 

Regardless, no one will buy these vns aside from a small circle of rabid fans. I don't even know what's there to discuss.

That's true of all VNs, really.

[Narcosis]

Just now, Clephas said:

That's true of all VNs, really.

Unless it's your new flavour of Nekopara.

[Clephas]

3 hours ago, Narcosis said:

Unless it's your new flavour of Nekopara.

I'm a mimikko addict, and even I don't replay Nekopara games.  There is only so much slave-race girl-banging I can take before the warped part of my brain starts imaging leather collars and chains onto them.

[littleshogun]

While granted that both VNs addition would be nice, I think it should be obvious light more or less just politely refused to answer in regard of the licensing their other VNs (At least to me). Of course if in the future somehow they manage to get both of Silverio and Senshinkan in English, then good for them. Besides it's not like it's impossible for a bankrupt company to get their VNs localized, as Chuablesoft and minori proved (Although too bad that the Supipara funding project was halted because of that problem).

Edited July 11, 2020 by littleshogun

[Formlose Gestalt]

Since I started this topic last year, I thought should share the latest tweet from Light's twitter account.

https://twitter.com/light_staff_tw/status/1353504981836414976

 

So they get asked about a Silverio translation again and responded with "no plans at this time" and honestly it doesn't look like the chances have improved. But that didn't stop someone from creating a petition to show support for Silverio so have a look here:

https://www.change.org/p/light-silverio-franchise-localization

Also consider responding to the tweet if you are interested in SIlverio.

[Narcosis]

I don't see how this can be turned into a success; especially after the fiasco Dies Irae was, with all it's mismanagement and issues piling upon issues, failed promises and general disappointment. No amount of petitions or votes will change the fact they're a very niche company producing very niche vns. Not the best kind of recipe for overseas localization.

[Solitude94]

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the western launch of Dies Irae successful? The anime was horrible and there was certainly a lot of mismanagement, when it came to the Pantheon and other projects.

 

Still, I think if there will be a translation of Silverio Saga Series and SSGH+SSGB, it would be a good thing.

[littleshogun]

I can only see that Light rejecting the possibility of English localization even though their word is 'it may be realized if there are many requests', but then again perhaps I'm a pessimistic one and the people who agree with the petition are more optimistic than me.

Edited January 27, 2021 by littleshogun

[Nier]

Any news on this? Would love to play the Silverio trilogy and the Soushuu Senshinkan Gakuen duology, but it's all in Japanese... Recently Sugoi Visual Novel released an english machine translation patch for the first game, I tried it but it's mostly nonsense...

[littleshogun]

As for the news in regard of Silverio and Senshinkan series, obviously still no news in regard of those yet.

Edited August 11 by littleshogun

[Nemesis]

The best way to play the games if you are really interested remains unchanged. It just requires a bit of effort in your part.

[Clephas]

When I saw there were replies, I was hoping there was new news.  *looks sad*

[littleshogun]

Well, in case there's news about English translation I'll make sure that I'll post it Fuwanovel. Also if anything else at least there's Aniplex released Fate/Stay Night in Steam.

Edited August 12 by littleshogun

[Nier]

On 8/11/2024 at 7:22 AM, Nemesis said:

The best way to play the games if you are really interested remains unchanged. It just requires a bit of effort in your part.

Just "A bit of effort"? Don't be ridiculous! It's very easy to repeat that old meme of "just learn japanese!" when in most cases the jokesters who are just copying and pasting this badly aged joke, only knows the alphabet like the rest of us.

Edited August 15 by Nier

[littleshogun]

Well technically speaking learning Japanese is just need a bit more effort with the first step is learnt hiragana and katakana in which it has 46 characters each, although the kanji is indeed pose the problems with thousands of it available. That said, even if someone manage to persevere to learn Japanese in order to learn the Japanese in order to read untranslated VN, I think it's not really worth the effort if it made people became bitter when the VN they used as the reason to learn Japanese turned out not worth the hype and thus they became grumpy anytime people hype the localization work of said VN.

Edited August 15 by littleshogun

[Nemesis]

On 8/15/2024 at 2:19 AM, Nier said:

Just "A bit of effort"? Don't be ridiculous! It's very easy to repeat that old meme of "just learn japanese!" when in most cases the jokesters who are just copying and pasting this badly aged joke, only knows the alphabet like the rest of us.

You can believe whatever you want, but there's communities dedicated to learning Japanese through VN's, and most people can read untranslated VN's in a few months with texthooking, and without texthooking in a few years. I personally have a JLPT N1 certificate, preparing to take kanken 2, and spend some of my time talking and lurking with native Japanese eroge fans.

And guess what, I already read both Senshinkan and Silverio. Well, I actually have yet to read the 3rd game of Silverio as I have other priorities for now.

Edit: This is a common story among people who actually try:

This could be the next you.

Edited August 16 by Nemesis
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[Clephas]

Ah, let's keep the heat down, and you guys are thread derailing, so please make another thread if you want to debate the merits of the VN-learning method of mastering Japanese.

Edit: Also, I should note that there is a small but significant (around eight percent of all humanity) portion of humanity that is incapable of learning languages that aren't directly related to their native language.  Basically, these people, if they already know English or Chinese, they can't learn any language whose grammatical structure differs significantly from their own.  This is not a problem with their intelligence but rather with how their brain works (basically how their brain forms associations).