Schadenfreude

yes it does because you like Japanese games japan isn't forcing its views on you, you are going to it, but you are also complaining about something their culture values in the H scene. I'm with you man, I don't like cliche personality melting H scenes either, but I recognize Japan finds it erotic. they have a weird form of eroticism just like they have a weird "cute" art style. no I am not a nuki man I'm saying sex is essential in an adult novel. you can't get around that, it's gotta be in there somewhere and regrettably a lot of VNs just throw the scenes in there with little effort, full of horrible cliches and moaning and degradation etc. H scenes don't have to be what they are. I gave an example in Ever17 where there was sex, but no H scene. And it was great. Japan does sexual tension a lot better than the sex itself, and Hollywood has also figured out teasing is generally more titillating than the actual bang. what you show, how you show it, and how you set it up and resolve it are all important. can I get a vote of how many times I've read "fill my womb with your seed" and got annoyed? dudes don't flood the womb with anything. ever, not even if they're packing a firehose in their pants. its a clumsy euphemism for "I want your cock" but comes across as really stupid and uninformed, and it's in a ton of VNs. a lot of people don't, but it's the wrong way to think of things sex != love. sex is also not greater or lesser than love. what it is is the utmost level of intimacy, so depending on the girl's personality, sex might be as routine as enjoying a fresh dinner or as sacred as letting someone know her deepest, darkest secret. dates are different, when modern people go on dates, there is an anticipation of sex from one or both parties. that's the "point" of a date, to size up if someone is worth setting with long term. why else is a date usually the penultimate event in a dating sim to the confession and banging?

h-scenes make VNs into a "goal oriented" experience there is no gameplay, officially. instead you play the game with the expectation that your reward is getting to bang the girl, and all that hard work pays off. VNs began as dating simulators. in dates, you are generally expected to bang your woman. it's not a question of whether you want to or not. if you're not interested, and are into platonic love or something, the girl will get turned off, thinking she's unattractive because you don't want to touch her. she is also disappointed if you don't put out. you don't go on dates because all you want from someone is a good time. likewise, you don't play a dating sim without thinking eventually, you are going to fornicate like ferrets. most VNs these days are not simply dating sims, they simulate other stuff of which male-female interaction is a smaller part. so there's less goal-oriented gameplay. did you play Muv-Luv because you wanted Takeru to graduate high school? vns are limited not by the graphic nudity and sex, but by 1) this "goal oriented" mentality and 2) the dumb porno cliches also because everything is harem now, you can expect bangs from any character with a moderately attractive design. too predictable sex scenes are necessary adult content. H scene? not necessarily. yo you heard of comiket they sell tons of H doujins that otaku lap up sex sells. Japan loves anime, Japan loves hentai. it's not ridiculous to think that they find something in the H they like. it just so happens that Japan's cultural attitude toward sex doesn't gel with the rest of us I personally find spontaneous sex hot. In Ever17, those were not good "H scene" but was good "sex scene". Hollywood also knows more is less. a woman in a bikini is hotter than the same woman naked. but you can set the mood, set the attitude, and make the encounter way more erotic than it would be in a porn movie.