Archmage Taril Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I enjoy nothing more than NTR however it seems there is hardly any translated VN with that element because most generally dont like them. So I need all of your help, any translated VN with lot of NTR be sure to mention here!(just hope you will know something which I didnt played yet) Thanks for the help! Quote
Nosebleed Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Unfortunately you'll be grasping at straws for this, there really aren't many translated VNs focusing on NTR out there. Only one that seems to fit the bill the most is Discipline: https://vndb.org/v114 You can just look at this for all of the ones translated: https://vndb.org/g513?fil=tag_inc-513.lang-en.tagspoil-0;m=2 Quote
XReaper Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 ask sanahtlig about some good titles. as for now no good translated ones come to my mind. Quote
Archmage Taril Posted May 10, 2015 Author Posted May 10, 2015 Unfortunately you'll be grasping at straws for this, there really aren't many translated VNs focusing on NTR out there. Only one that seems to fit the bill the most is Discipline: https://vndb.org/v114 You can just look at this for all of the ones translated: https://vndb.org/g513?fil=tag_inc-513.lang-en.tagspoil-0;m=2 Already played but thanks anyway. Yes that is the way I was going to search for them but figured out that might be good idea to ask first. @XReaper thanks,I will ask. Quote
sanahtlig Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 There's really no good NTR games in English. All I could recommend are Japanese titles. School Days is what got me interested in the genre, but NTR is only a minor theme there. Quote
XReaper Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 so its like i thought. dunno why this genre is left untouched by western publishers until now, as there´re tons of good titles. sad world were´re living in...guess we´ve to pester mg & friends a bit more about it & i´m NOT talking about your standart ntr crap storys, like dude x got a huge wiener & bangs chick y into oblivion, while hetare-kun keeps on weeping in a corner edit: eventually you could try sagara family, its a bit old but there´s minor ntr included. Quote
Archmage Taril Posted May 10, 2015 Author Posted May 10, 2015 There's really no good NTR games in English. All I could recommend are Japanese titles. School Days is what got me interested in the genre, but NTR is only a minor theme there. Also played that one. Anyway if there is no good title translated then I guess no choice but seek out NTR in other mediums like manga or hentai. Because I am lazy to learn Japanese and certainly didnt heard much good about machine translations. Quote
XReaper Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 you HAVE TO PESTER western publishers about licensing such titles & trust me you´re not alone. there´re alot of people who would love to see games, like the ones from elf or other companies translated into english: Quote
sanahtlig Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 It's not really a moral value issue. The problem is that that there's a very low tolerance among the Western audience for hetare protagonists that get their girl stolen from them, which is pretty much an NTR staple. The sort of NTR that would appeal to a Western audience would be the type where the blame would fall squarely on the female, I think. In other words, a "slut" type heroine that betrays the protagonist. Quote
Archmage Taril Posted May 10, 2015 Author Posted May 10, 2015 you HAVE TO PESTER western publishers about licensing such titles & trust me you´re not alone. there´re alot of people who would love to see games, like the ones from elf or other companies translated into english: Whats the most effective way to pester them about this issue?I am really lazy but if my voice can make difference I am willing to do. It's not really a moral value issue. The problem is that that there's a very low tolerance among the Western audience for hetare protagonists that get their girl stolen from them, which is pretty much an NTR staple. The sort of NTR that would appeal to a Western audience would be the type where the blame would fall squarely on the female, I think. In other words, a "slut" type heroine that betrays the protagonist. True enough but still we can call it a cultural difference and such probably wont change in near future. Quote
Kyoroto Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 I can't think of any NTR titles, but if you are interested in Netori (basically games where the protagonist steals the lover of someone else), then you might like Kyoudai Hiai ,which has an English translation by MangaGamer Quote
XReaper Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 most efficient way is for example, to visit mg´s or JAST´s forum & submitt your license suggestionshttp://forums.mangagamer.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11&start=750https://connect.jastusa.com/support/discussions/topics/5000025205 & yeah of course every participant is important, cause when noone makes use of this practice, they obviously wont know what the majority wants & therefore will keep on choosing games themselves. edit: sekai is not included for reasons, as for now i dont see them beeing interested in such titles, as well as nukige in general SaintOfVoid 1 Quote
edwd2 Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 the blues and elves, yknow what im talking about Archmage Taril 1 Quote
Funyarinpa Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 the blues and elves, yknow what im talking about I am very curious as to what the Smurfs have to do with this. Smurfette gangrape or what? Also, Hypno-Training My Mother And Sister might be up your alley. Quote
Archmage Taril Posted May 10, 2015 Author Posted May 10, 2015 I can't think of any NTR titles, but if you are interested in Netori (basically games where the protagonist steals the lover of someone else), then you might like Kyoudai Hiai ,which has an English translation by MangaGamer Quote
Nosebleed Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Hypno-Training My Mother And Sister isn't netorare though. If you like that type of stuff, you might want to look into blackmailing and whatnot, you might have better chances with it. Quote
Funyarinpa Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Hypno-Training My Mother And Sister isn't netorare though. sorry, I thought of NTR to be depressive rapey-mapey shit, that's why I recommended it Whatevs Quote
Archmage Taril Posted May 10, 2015 Author Posted May 10, 2015 Hypno-Training My Mother And Sister isn't netorare though. If you like that type of stuff, you might want to look into blackmailing and whatnot, you might have better chances with it. Yes didnt checked the tags properly but really doesnt matter I am desperate enough to accept blackmail too Since pretty much established there are no good NTR with english or even worse there is hardly any,one mustnt be picky.... Quote
Nosebleed Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Netorare is all about the main heroine being taken away from the protagonist and it can occur in one of 3 ways: Heroine willingly cheats on the protagonist. Heroine is initially blackmailed/drugged/raped and eventually gets into it and accepts it and continues to cheat on the protagonist. Heroine is forced to have non consentual sex throughout the whole thing. The key in netorare is that the protagonist always loses the heroine to someone else (or multiple guys) and the protagonist pretty much gets rekt. But yeah this is hard to find in VNs in English. It's much more prominent in hentai manga though. Your best bet is to just look for rape and other forced stuff as there really isn't much else. Quote
sanahtlig Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 Netorare is a very specific fetish where your significant other is stolen from you. The Western equivalent is cuckoldry; the Japanese term literally means "taken". Netori means to steal someone's else's lover. krill 1 Quote
sanahtlig Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 The key in netorare is that the protagonist always loses the heroine to someone else (or multiple guys) and the protagonist pretty much gets rekt. The key is the jealousy factor. The problem I have with most netorare VNs is that netorare is treated as sexual fetish material and the jealousy factor isn't properly leveraged. Good netorare can't be avoided with obvious choices, or there has to be consequences for avoiding it. In other words, it has to be experienced against one's will. School Days is an example of properly executed netorare, even though it was a minor theme. krill, Archmage Taril and XReaper 3 Quote
Archmage Taril Posted May 12, 2015 Author Posted May 12, 2015 the blues and elves, yknow what im talking about Quote
BookwormOtaku Posted May 18, 2015 Posted May 18, 2015 You kind of have this in one of the routes in Guilty the Sin: http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=8 Here's my review of it if you're curious: http://gamesforadultsandeveryone.blogspot.com/2012/10/games-for-adults-guilty-sin.html There's kind of a case of it in Desire when you play from Makoto's POV, but that storyline is mostly pointless/sucky. If you want netori, then a route in Virgin Roster may be up your alley. Archmage Taril 1 Quote
Archmage Taril Posted May 18, 2015 Author Posted May 18, 2015 You kind of have this in one of the routes in Guilty the Sin: http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=8 Here's my review of it if you're curious: http://gamesforadultsandeveryone.blogspot.com/2012/10/games-for-adults-guilty-sin.html There's kind of a case of it in Desire when you play from Makoto's POV, but that storyline is mostly pointless/sucky. If you want netori, then a route in Virgin Roster may be up your alley. Thank you very much! I didnt played the first game yet so will get to it. However I already completed Virgin Roster. Next time if I need help will make vndb list Quote
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