Jakez123 Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 You didn't have your VNDB link in your profile so I just went on with what you provided, sorry. I have to disagree with little to no character development tho. After all, they managed to overcome their problems in the end. Nekoko's is very explicit since she managed to stop using drugs and have a very successful life. Aeka's might be interpreted as running away but she still managed to move on so that's enough character development to me. Plus, fixing her relationships with the other people is out of the question. They physically and mentally tortured Aeka enough to drive her to suicide. Aeka also almost got raped and in retaliation, they almost killed Antoinette. To me that's too much to be water under the bridge. Finally, in both routes, the protag finally added enough spice in his life to stop the manifestation of the 'phantom train' he keeps on hearing prior to the middle/end. That was what he always wanted so I think that's certainly enough. There are some more but I believe this is enough of a character development for a VN with this length. Props to you for being able to figure out who Nekoko is even while engrossed to the story. I didn't notice it enough since her reactions aren't weird enough if you read enough dialog from Nekoko, and their number of interactions can be counted in one hand, I think. I agree with the music to be lacking. They reused tracks enough to get it stuck in your head, the bad way. They even use it in strange matchings, at some points. I can't seem to understand what you meant by they executed it poorly. I agree that they did fail at some parts but I believe they did a great job overall of portraying the different problems the heroines had, which is the core of the VN, I think. By no means am I implying that what I say is correct but rather curious as to what I might've overlooked. VNDB, is that like Myanimelist for anime? Quote
XReaper Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 personally i found them routes to be abit too rushed, overall pacing could have been better - especially in neko´s route. & them cut out/non existing sisters route (for whatever reason) striked me harder than hard. wasted potential ahoi! Quote
Nosebleed Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 I also really felt like his sister should have had a route in one way or another. It didn't have to be a romance route, but I found the dynamic between the two siblings really fun to watch and I wanted a route that focused on them a little. Quote
SoulJustIn Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 the route I like Nekoko > Aeka > Mizuki well, In mizuki route, around middle of route, i quite lost and don't know what going on (forget which part it is)..... because of that mizuki route is my most lowest favorite. About Nekoko route, I really like the story plot and how the ending . The ending really make me really happy.... even now i still remember the ending ...... Quote
Jakez123 Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 I also really felt like his sister should have had a route in one way or another. It didn't have to be a romance route, but I found the dynamic between the two siblings really fun to watch and I wanted a route that focused on them a little. Exactly, Aya was an amazing character, and so was Tsubaki, I'm sure Aya should have been given her own route, I mean it would have worked, as shown in Aeko's route when: Aya speaks about Aeko and says something like "I'll give up then", and gives the MC her "blessing". I mean it was obvious she held feelings towards the MC. Quote
Deep Blue Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 a route with her sister?for incest and fan-service purpose only...if any there should be a route for his whole family not only his sister... Quote
Nosebleed Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 a route with her sister?for incest and fan-service purpose only...if any there should be a route for his whole family not only his sister... Not really, Aya was an interesting character and it would be nice to have a route where the protagonist didn't fix his own problems by finding a girlfriend, but rather by working out his problems with his family, in which Aya could have been at the center, not necessarly an incest route, but a family route. His family problems seemed to be much more prevalent in his life and it's a bit weird how him finding a girlfriend actually fixed them, so a route revolving around his sister and family wouldn't be a terrible idea. But I get that Yume Miru Kusuri is about girls problems, not our protagonist's problems. Quote
Kosakyun Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Good lord. I cannot bring myself to read this VN yet, trading time that could've been used to grind my Moemons. I'll probably finish on June 20, more or less. Quote
Deep Blue Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Not really, Aya was an interesting character and it would be nice to have a route where the protagonist didn't fix his own problems by finding a girlfriend, but rather by working out his problems with his family, in which Aya could have been at the center, not necessarly an incest route, but a family route. His family problems seemed to be much more prevalent in his life and it's a bit weird how him finding a girlfriend actually fixed them, so a route revolving around his sister and family wouldn't be a terrible idea. But I get that Yume Miru Kusuri is about girls problems, not our protagonist's problems. Quote
Nosebleed Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Well then you are talking about him and his problem with his whole family not only his sister, it sounds cool but what vn focus only on that without having a romance in the middle with a girl? and the most approachable way to do it is for him to start looking at aya not in a family-sibling way, just the same way she looked at him most of the time in the novel, thus incest in the middle...if you are asking for anything else then you are asking this vn to be something it never was in the first place. Quote
Kurokusari Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 All this talk about Aya made me think that it would really have been good idea to get a better closure on his family problem rather than an indirect effect from having a relationship. While a specific route is possible, putting it in the common route would be another choice. I personally think that it would've been easier to get a relationship when you already have one problem solved and it is relative to getting a girlfriend. It would be pretty awkward to introduce your possible wife to your family you don't feel close with. Aya and Tsubaki are great supporting characters. A little more attention and maybe side stories with them wouldn't be a bad idea. Quote
GreyWolfXx Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 YMK had pacing issues, yeah, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. In Aeka's route, the romance kind of dragged on towards the middle. It just wasn't interesting enough- I think the pacing must have been off. There were a lot of parts in YMK that drag on actually and that includes the sex scenes, but some scenes were really great. The scene where Aeka was naked and about to kill herself was really emotional and noteworthy. The scene near the end where Kouhei stops her from getting raped was really good too. The bullying was so....horrible. I just can't believe people can do that to one another. It gives me goosebumps just thinking about it. Using stun-pens, nearly raping a girl, and assaulting her boyfriend....not to mention all the small acts of bullying or when they force Aeka to strip. The teacher wouldn't help either...I'm really glad my school wasn't like that. An Aya route would have been interesting. A route dealing with Kouhei's own family issues is something I would have liked to see. Although, not a lot of VNs do that with the exception of Amagami, I think. Quote
Nimbus Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Just out of curiosity, how long do the routes go for after the final choice? I just went past choice number 14 in Mizuki's route and the plot doesn't seem to be going anywhere. Quote
Kurokusari Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Just out of curiosity, how long do the routes go for after the final choice? I just went past choice number 14 in Mizuki's route and the plot doesn't seem to be going anywhere. It's considerably long I suppose since the resolution and epilogue makes up that part. The term 'long' I used here is relative to the length of the VN ofc. Quote
SoulJustIn Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 if the vn good ........ I don't mind staring monitor 6 hour straight (or more) to finish the route. Quote
Sovereign1612 Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 It would be pretty awkward to introduce your possible wife to your family you don't feel close with. Aya and Tsubaki are great supporting characters. A little more attention and maybe side stories with them wouldn't be a bad idea. Then just don't do it who cares about his parents opinion anyway especially if love is involved We need a Stepsister route ! Quote
Fred the Barber Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Finished Nekoko's route. I only really enjoyed Nekoko's route once her true identity was revealed. Everything up to there was just boring or uncomfortable. After that point, it became more relatable and even a little bit bittersweet. Mercifully, I got the good ending (though it was pretty hard to screw it up on this route); I'm pretty sure I saw where the bad ending would go, and I would not have liked it at all. The finale of the good ending was also... kind of lame. The idea of a recently-reformed drug addict teenager being put in charge of designing all the fantasy elements of an amusement park just didn't work for me - my suspension of disbelief had too hard a time with it. For me, pretty much the only thing this route had going for it was that Hiroko was likeable and relatable, once she opened up a bit. I found her alter ego to pretty much just be annoying, and I found the comedy to be too repetitive. Still too many H scenes, as well, though I think not nearly as many as Mizuki's route. On to Aeka's route. Sadly, I'm mostly looking forward to it just so I can be done with this VN and move on to read something both better and more to my taste... Quote
Deep Blue Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Finished Nekoko's route. I only really enjoyed Nekoko's route once her true identity was revealed. Everything up to there was just boring or uncomfortable. After that point, it became more relatable and even a little bit bittersweet. Mercifully, I got the good ending (though it was pretty hard to screw it up on this route); I'm pretty sure I saw where the bad ending would go, and I would not have liked it at all. The finale of the good ending was also... kind of lame. The idea of a recently-reformed drug addict teenager being put in charge of designing all the fantasy elements of an amusement park just didn't work for me - my suspension of disbelief had too hard a time with it. For me, pretty much the only thing this route had going for it was that Hiroko was likeable and relatable, once she opened up a bit. I found her alter ego to pretty much just be annoying, and I found the comedy to be too repetitive. Still too many H scenes, as well, though I think not nearly as many as Mizuki's route. On to Aeka's route. Sadly, I'm mostly looking forward to it just so I can be done with this VN and move on to read something both better and more to my taste... aeka's was the most believable route of all of them imo and the best one so maybe you will like it. Quote
Zalor Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 aeka's was the most believable route of all of them imo and the best one so maybe you will like it. I agree with this statement. Quote
Heizei_koukousei Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 aeka's was the most believable route of all of them imo and the best one so maybe you will like it. Haven't played Aeka's route yet but I'm looking forward to it. Mizuki's route wasn't totally out there, but Nekoko's route wasn't something I would try to classify as believable lol The majority of Nekoko's route was hellishly boring, there's no way something like that could be believable in any sense of word. Quote
yvetox Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 You know-now i believe that this VN is not packed with the memorable scenes.I mean-if you remember tsubasa hirogete i'm sure that someone just will not be able to complete it in time,nor to mention that it have a lot of memorable scenes.Like,how many scenes can you recall after playing YMK?As for me its 4-5 for Aeka,5-6 for Nekoko,and 3-4 for Mizuki.Game's length sure is very connected to this point).Well,its not complaint,but I feel a lack of discussion material,LOL also The majority of Nekoko's route was hellishly boring, there's no way something like that could be believable in any sense of word. Yup,i know what you feel bro Quote
Ene Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Yume Miru Kusuri had some flaws, but it was still enjoyable. The first route that I read was Aeka’s route. Aeka was a character that I sympathized with. But I don’t understand why the teachers didn’t do anything to stop Antoinette and Gaito. Anyway, I really liked the romance and the whole story was nice. Mizuki’s route: The ending is really good. The comedy is good and some parts are really intriguing. The translation had some issues and there were too many H-scenes but her route was enjoyable. But I do think the choice for the good end is dumb. Lastly, Nekoko’s route.My favorite route in the whole game. It was really well written and I really liked how they dealt with drug abuse. I was also surprised when it was revealed who she was. And the ending was heartwarming. Hiroko is adorable Overall it was a nice story. Also, Aya needs her own route. SoulJustIn 1 Quote
Kurisu-Chan Posted June 14, 2015 Author Posted June 14, 2015 Ok, discussions about Yume Miru Kusuri are open. Quote
Deep Blue Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Ok, discussions about Yume Miru Kusuri are open. they weren't open before? Quote
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