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Gotten to the branching point of Lian's route and the true route for Draculius. Decided to try the former just to get it out of the way...was practically bored to the point of falling asleep by the time I reached the first ero scene, though that could be because I don't really like Lian all that much.  Here's hoping the true route's better

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I've been playing Tsukihime lately; I'm really enjoying it so far. Not far enough in to say anything more than that, but we'll see how it goes.

 

Are you reading it with music?

I read everything without music.

If yours does play music, could you link your download link? :(

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And I continue to applaud the music. There is SO MUCH OF IT and it's really good! Really, it is just absurd how much music is here. They never stop introducing new tunes in dramatic or important moments at any point throughout the VN and it really adds a lot to the experience, I feel. 

 

mmmh :wub:

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I like the handful of jazzy tunes they introduced in episode 4. Also some decent piano ones. 

 

Episode 4 is going to be much longer than the previous three, isn't it? It feels that way to me. 

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Well the episode 4 is good but not amazing, sadly the first half will be one of the most slow paced thing you've ever seen in a VN. (and enjoy the discovery of a furry character, annoying as hell)

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Well the episode 4 is good but not amazing, sadly the first half will be one of the most slow paced thing you've ever seen in a VN. (and enjoy the discovery of a furry character, annoying as hell)

I actually like all of the character building around maria and the new character and all that. They did a good job making Maria's story simultaneously really cute and sad.

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Ayaya is better than most of ordinary schoolgirls in a lot of VNs, though. At least she has her own personality and it's surely something to boast about in this media especially when you see what is considered to be the norm.

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Ayaya is better than most of ordinary schoolgirls in a lot of VNs, though. At least she has her own personality and it's surely something to boast about in this media especially when you see what is considered to be the norm.

 

Ayaya from what VN?

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It becomes clear pretty fast that Umineko is no Higurashi rehash, and that's what makes it so interesting, in my opinion. In fact, the most interesting thing about it might be that it gives you a completely new perspective on Higurashi once you finish the whole VN. :)

That is completely true indeed it made me think about higurashi for quite a while once I finished Umineko :)

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Thanks. Is it that good?

Comyu ? Well the opinions are really divided. Imo the pacing is very well handled, there's always something keeping you from boredom and making you want to continue . Also the characters are really really incredible, in both ways : charism and development.

Added to that, there are also a great bunch of themes (not overused ones, for a change) that the story discusses and deepens skillfully.

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You guys are all making me remember Umineko ^^

 

The sad part is that VN is like a joke that went over the head to me: Everyone incredibly enjoys it while I stand and think, dumbfounded, trying to figure what the hell just happened.

 

It indeed was a good VN, it's just that it was too deep for me to understand.

 

(Umineko spoilers)

Thinking everything's only weird because of different interpretation (what Virgilia said in episode 2) started to feel like a cop-out after a point: It's hard to throw away half the VN's storytelling as "Different interpretation", and doing that felt like the easy way out so I tried to solve all magical scenes by logic. Obviously, nothing came out of it.

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You guys are all making me remember Umineko ^^

 

The sad part is that VN is like a joke that went over the head to me: Everyone incredibly enjoys it while I stand and think, dumbfounded, trying to figure what the hell just happened.

 

It indeed was a good VN, it's just that it was too deep for me to understand.

 

(Umineko spoilers)

Thinking everything's only weird because of different interpretation (what Virgilia said in episode 2) started to feel like a cop-out after a point: It's hard to throw away half the VN's storytelling as "Different interpretation", and doing that felt like the easy way out so I tried to solve all magical scenes by logic. Obviously, nothing came out of it.

Well, one of the VN's main points by the end are that the main mystery/the "truth" behind it doesn't really matter. In the end, it's about the journey, the feelings and the intentions. Trying to look for concrete facts behind everything, while possibly fun, wasn't the right way to interpret the story, at least not in my opinion. That's what I got out of Episode 8 anyway, that nearly parodied all the readers at some points.

 

I was also very iffy about throwing away most of the VN, which is why I arrived on this conclusion anyway. Might just be a huge mistake on my part, but the fact you can take the story and interpret it however you want instead of getting a single definitive solution forced down your throat is what makes the story so good.

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The sad part is that VN is like a joke that went over the head to me: Everyone incredibly enjoys it while I stand and think, dumbfounded, trying to figure what the hell just happened.

 

 

That's why Umineko has such a good soundtrack, you can't leave it and thinks that it was bad haha.

And maybe it wasn't "too deep" for you, Umineko requires a specific viewpoint to be fully appreciated, not only an active mind (because they're obviously more to Umineko than only the notion of truth). Some people have a really hard time feeling concerned for the characters or the story development and it affects a lot your experience, it's not the fault of the VN nor of the fault of the reader.

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Well, one of the VN's main points by the end are that the main mystery/the "truth" behind it doesn't really matter. In the end, it's about the journey, the feelings and the intentions. Trying to look for concrete facts behind everything, while possibly fun, wasn't the right way to interpret the story, at least not in my opinion. That's what I got out of Episode 8 anyway, that nearly parodied all the readers at some points.

 

I was also very iffy about throwing away most of the VN, which is why I arrived on this conclusion anyway. Might just be a huge mistake on my part, but the fact you can take the story and interpret it however you want instead of getting a single definitive solution forced down your throat is what makes the story so good.

I did understand the "truth of Umineko" doesn't matter (the final choice "Trick/Magic" pretty much proves that), and nonetheless I got a lot of enjoyment from simply reading it and taking everything at face value. (Some scenes, like the  grand court of Natsuhi at the end of episode 5 or "

USHIROMIYA KYRIE CANNOT SAVE BATTLER" moment in... episode 6, I guess)Taking everything as real makes most of the first episodes rather enjoyable, but especially in episode 7 I felt completely lost since I couldn't really comprehend what was happening. Chiru takes surrealism to a point where it is too surreal to fit even in Umineko, or at least the first half, and that takes some enjoyment out of it in my opinion.

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I did understand the "truth of Umineko" doesn't matter (the final choice "Trick/Magic" pretty much proves that), and nonetheless I got a lot of enjoyment from simply reading it and taking everything at face value. (Some scenes, like the  grand court of Natsuhi at the end of episode 5 or "

USHIROMIYA KYRIE CANNOT SAVE BATTLER" moment in... episode 6, I guess)Taking everything as real makes most of the first episodes rather enjoyable, but especially in episode 7 I felt completely lost since I couldn't really comprehend what was happening. Chiru takes surrealism to a point where it is too surreal to fit even in Umineko, or at least the first half, and that takes some enjoyment out of it in my opinion.

I guess it all depends on what you go in expecting. If you go in expecting a murder mystery with maybe some supernatural on top a la Higurashi, you will be severely disappointed unless you can accept that Umineko is nothing like that. I can see how Chiru might look way out there, but the fact remains that everything is there for a reason, no matter how crazy it might look. I did say that it is more about the journey, but I might've chosen my words wrong; I didn't mean to take stuff at face value, because that's not what you do, especially not with Chiru. Pretty much every magic scene is there as a metaphor for something else. It's basically just making something small into somehting much bigger, embezzling it. You have a crazy magical duel of death only to explain to you that Shannon and Kanon are in fact the same person, etc. The VN says all this, but it just doesn't rub it in your face.

 

But yeah, if you're looking for a mystery with clear answers - which probably most people would coming off of Higurashi - something as symbolic as Umineko was probably a harsh disappointment. I personally liked how vague Umineko was, but a lot of people hate it for that exact reason. They hate it so much in fact, that the manga adaptation of Episode 8 was made so it answers absolutely everything behind the mystery that there is.

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I guess it all depends on what you go in expecting. If you go in expecting a murder mystery with maybe some supernatural on top a la Higurashi, you will be severely disappointed unless you can accept that Umineko is nothing like that. I can see how Chiru might look way out there, but the fact remains that everything is there for a reason, no matter how crazy it might look. I did say that it is more about the journey, but I might've chosen my words wrong; I didn't mean to take stuff at face value, because that's not what you do, especially not with Chiru. Pretty much every magic scene is there as a metaphor for something else. It's basically just making something small into somehting much bigger, embezzling it. You have a crazy magical duel of death only to explain to you that Shannon and Kanon are in fact the same person, etc. The VN says all this, but it just doesn't rub it in your face.

 

But yeah, if you're looking for a mystery with clear answers - which probably most people would coming off of Higurashi - something as symbolic as Umineko was probably a harsh disappointment. I personally liked how vague Umineko was, but a lot of people hate it for that exact reason. They hate it so much in fact, that the manga adaptation of Episode 8 was made so it answers absolutely everything behind the mystery that there is.

I kind of liked that vagueness. By "face value", I meant I gave up searching for the invariably existent message or metaphor. It's nice to know there's an "answer sheet" if I can call it that, but I still don't want to read it: that vagueness, that air of the things unknown both in broad daylight and hidden in deep shadow.

The lack of answers left me dizzied and confused by the end, but I would not have it any other way.

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Quite obviously blatant fanservice that was in no way connected to the plot.

>Every Eroge Visual Novel H-Scene

Excuse me, I'm quite limited in my visual novel experience.

 

I'm currently determined to continue with Swan Song, but we'll see if I get around to it.

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All of the h-scenes are rather dumb, just turn them on in Kagome's route for minor details and you will miss nothing. (Damn, the ones with Mayuki were disturbing as hell, as much as Makina's scenes in Grisaia)

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I'm reading satsukoi, new untranslated title. It's interesting thus far.

 

It contains some violence, but it's not action focused. The story really captures you quite early on, and there seems to be some mysteries to be uncovered at the same time you really don't know what is going to happen.

 

My expectations are quite high for this title, even if it's said to be short.

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I gave up waiting to be able to buy a Vita and import the Danganronpa games, so I downloaded DR1 (PSP translated version)and I'm playing that nowadays using a gamepad. I know everything about the game, but it still is quite enjoyable. I am at Chapter 3's pretrial.

 

(Danganronpa Chapter 3 SPOILERS)

All that running around stuff is more complicated than I remembered... It also has the best buildup of all the murders. It lasts pretty much a whole day, unlike the previous ones (or the latter ones for that matter). Since it appears I've forgotten some stuff, it might be an interesting trial, we'll see...

 

Not really missing Muv Luv Alternative, actually...

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