WinterfuryZX Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 The blind spot was also explained in Chaos;Head. Quote
granit Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 I'm currently reading Tokyo Babel (which is awesome btw) and I have a question about Lilith's route: Spoiler In the walkthrough Setsuna's Ending is the last one. Does that imply that you are supposed to read that one last to get the proper true ending for the whole story? Quote
Turnip Sensei Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Finally went and finished the Gahkthun Fandisk. For a fandisk it was pretty alright. The game divided in two parts; the repeating "Shining 6 days" where you choose between events from the map screen, and the titular "Shining Night", which is the grand conclusion. "Shining 6 days" is mostly slice of life, and it's pretty good one at that, granted you liked the characters. There's drunk Neon, Berta being super moe and so on. And while it's not exactly dark, it's not all fun and games either. If there's something that's hindering the enjoyment, it's the fact they show the same scene from multiple perspectives a lot. At times it works pretty well. Sakurai's characters are pretty internally conflicted so the feel of the scene can change a lot depending who's thoughts you get to read and there are some individual parts that make it worth your while. But at worst it's seeing the same scene 6 times with very minimal changes. (luckily that's only one scene) Shining Night also touches some of the subjects that weren't included in Gahkthun. Like Izumi's situation, Tesla's and few other characters (Neon's friends, especially the last one's) pasts that were somewhat neglected in the original. But for all the questions that are answered it introduces few new as well. For example vigilantes and "The Shining League" seems quite integral part of the story from the first glance, but apparently it was just a shout-out the Gahkthun Anthology novel. Talk about small disappointment, I wanted to see Sakurai writing about superheroes in classical western style... The finale "Shining Night" is also pretty cool. There's epic confrontations, and even though the fight itself feels little too close to that in the end of Gahkhtun, the ending itself is pretty satisfying. Fandisk is by concept already pretty difficult thing to finish properly since it's basically a continuation to an already finished story, but not a sequel either, so it's all the better. I wouldn't say the fandisk is very good visual novel, but it's not bad either. The structure is little crooked and it suffers from not being it's own story. Still it's good fun for those who liked the characters, and even though it might be little weak in terms of plot, the writing itself is good as ever. There's some fascinating things tucked inside even the smaller scenes and the familiar charm is still there. Arcadeotic 1 Quote
Eclipsed Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 2 hours ago, granit said: I'm currently reading Tokyo Babel (which is awesome btw) and I have a question about Lilith's route: Hide contents In the walkthrough Setsuna's Ending is the last one. Does that imply that you are supposed to read that one last to get the proper true ending for the whole story? There's no true true (canon) ending for tokyo babel overall, but every route has a true end. Setsuna's end is a slight branch from Lilith's true end; it's nothing special really. granit 1 Quote
Funyarinpa Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 Replaying 999 and not really digging it. Whee Quote
granit Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 5 hours ago, Eclipsed said: There's no true true (canon) ending for tokyo babel overall, but every route has a true end. Setsuna's end is a slight branch from Lilith's true end; it's nothing special really. I see. Thank you! Quote
Eclipsed Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, granit said: I see. Thank you! While you're at it... Who's best girl? Quote
Eclipsed Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 After days of couple hour sloggings through Root Before's SoL segments, I've finally reached Chapter 5 and have infinitely high expectations: We'll see how it turns out. Quote
granit Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Eclipsed said: While you're at it... Who's best girl? For me it's Sorami for sure. She is just too cute. I'm glad that her true end was truly a happy ending. Eclipsed 1 Quote
Eclipsed Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Root Before was loaded with pacing issues due to the excessive usage of flashbacks (within flashbacks!) during the SoL segments ie. Let's take a moment to remember how we saved our dog named Sirius and released him into the wild when we were kids! All while there's a manhunt for us because we knocked out a security guard! Yippee! And then let's have another flashback right after that flashback! The big reveal was also heavily, heavily foreshadowed; you should be able to catch onto it early-midway throughout the route so that by lategame you're actually begging the VN to just confirm it already -> it was definitely an underwhelming reveal. I liked the dual-protagonist / dual-route system overall and how it got me to be heavily biased towards their respective protagonists. I was a Watase fanboy during Root After; badass-rescue-squad-captain turned amnesiac-newbie in a nuclear meltdown survival scenario who would literally run into his death idiotically 50 times before finally showing some competence and earning the respect of his fellow squad and survivors alike (before everything goes to shit at the end; btw, fk Eno-sensei and Ukita, fk Yuuri, and fk the kids). Then I went into Root Before, and still said fk the kids, fk Yuuri, fk Eno & Ukita, fk everybody, and had to meander through several looong days of high school SoL before I finally, slowly but surely, started growing fond of Natsuhiko / Mashiro / Salyu; they're some nice kids. Btw, fk Watase. cwutididthere? AND WTF, THERE'S A ROOT CURRENT?!@# HYPE!@# -> Whoa, that's the most trippy thing in the world, SERIOUSLY LOL OMFFGGGGGGGGGGGGGG JEESUS CHRIST SOOO FKING TRIPPY /s -> Oh, now there's a Root Double. Now I see why this VN is rated Very Long, time to take a break ._. Quote
Jartse Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 I wouldn't call root double's route current a route. On the other hand just finished Aiyoku no Eustia - skipping every route and went straight to the true route. I loved the characters and the setting and its one awesome vn - it really does deserve the high vndb score - my only complaint is with regards to the whole ending though. Spoiler It almost felt like the writer can't figure out how to close that final story section and decides to go, you know what, mahou shoujo Tia solves all the problems. I was sort of expecting the "everyone work together to keep this place afloat" ending going through it and Caim being undecisive. Mahou shoujo Tia just leaves a bad aftertaste to the story. Quote
HotTrax Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Sakura no Mori Dreamers - Man, this is so good at keeping me at the edge of my seat. Kinda through me when they actually ended up "doing it" to her in the beginning, was kinda sad. So damn good. just barely joined team. Edit: More stuff needs sick ass metal playing over battle scenes. When he is expressing this from across the room, you better just leave. Kono Koi, Seishun ni Yori. Finished, a good childhood friend route. Especially that softball (hehe) of a pre-credit scene, was very sad for her but it all was good at the end. Others not as strong but still good in their own way. The system was not all that fun though. She is a cutie. Kawasumi 1 Quote
Turnip Sensei Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 I decided to ride the good reading feeling and started Kusarihime. I had been thinking about reading it for a while, even more so after reading Forest, but never really got around doing that. And now I've been completely hooked in since the amazing opening, it just sets such perfect mood for the game. Same melancholy and the sense of discomfort when something feels ever so slightly wrong carries over the story, emphasized by the great music. And while the character art is little rough, I really like background, especially scenery art. They have that magical children's picture book feel to them. Don't know how to explain it properly, so just have a look. Haven't gotten too far yet, but I'm really liking it. The atmosphere is pretty low-key, but really captivating. The memory loss of the protagonist is also handled in a interesting way and the small hints about the past and the mysterious events are really tickling my curiosity. I just got into a part where I think things are going to get lot more interesting (the red snow in the fourth day), so looking forward to what is to come. Kawasumi, Chronopolis and XReaper 3 Quote
Kawasumi Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Turnip Sensei said: I decided to ride the good reading feeling and started Kusarihime. I had been thinking about reading it for a while, even more so after reading Forest, but never really got around doing that. And now I've been completely hooked in since the amazing opening, it just sets such perfect mood for the game. Same melancholy and the sense of discomfort when something feels ever so slightly wrong carries over the story, emphasized by the great music. And while the character art is little rough, I really like background, especially scenery art. They have that magical children's picture book feel to them. Don't know how to explain it properly, so just have a look. Haven't gotten too far yet, but I'm really liking it. The atmosphere is pretty low-key, but really captivating. The memory loss of the protagonist is also handled in a interesting way and the small hints about the past and the mysterious events are really tickling my curiosity. I just got into a part where I think things are going to get lot more interesting (the red snow in the fourth day), so looking forward to what is to come. nice! Kusarihime has been on the top of my to-read list for a while. Quote
Funyarinpa Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 So I started replaying 999, which as many of you know is my second favorite VN of all time, with my #1 being its sequel Virtue's Last Reward, and I am not enjoying it anywhere as much as I thought I would. The game feels utterly TINY and I don't feel engaged or immersed at all. I'd say it's because I am playing it in daylight, but the fact of the matter is that I originally played 999 on a PC, in daylight, and in the presence of others- so that isn't much of an argument. Maybe it's because I know the mystery this time around, maybe it played better on PC, maybe I've grown jaded over this series (which sucks hard since it's practically been a sweet, sweet obsession of mine for 3 years or so, so I hope that is not the case). Cliché-as-hell writing at times, also innumerable segments without any BGM whatsoever. At least Lotus grew a lot on me, so that's a plus. The endings are also too goddamn soon, feels like they appear only a couple hours in so it's hard to get invested, and also there aren't that many new developments. Feeling bad about this. Siiiiiiigh. 1 hour ago, Turnip Sensei said: Kusarihime This is not translated, is it? Quote
Kawasumi Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Just now, Funyarinpa said: This is not translated, is it? ahahahahahaha. no. Quote
Funyarinpa Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Just now, Kawasumi said: ahahahahahaha. no. sigh Quote
Kawasumi Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Just now, Funyarinpa said: sigh Barktooth and XReaper 2 Quote
Novel21 Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 I'm not sure how many have IPad, but I have just playing otome game called 10 days with my Devil and I highly recommend to try too play 10 days with my devil for they so have IPad, IPhone and Android. Quote
Vokoca Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 20 minutes ago, Funyarinpa said: So I started replaying 999, which as many of you know is my second favorite VN of all time, with my #1 being its sequel Virtue's Last Reward, and I am not enjoying it anywhere as much as I thought I would. The game feels utterly TINY and I don't feel engaged or immersed at all. I'd say it's because I am playing it in daylight, but the fact of the matter is that I originally played 999 on a PC, in daylight, and in the presence of others- so that isn't much of an argument. Maybe it's because I know the mystery this time around, maybe it played better on PC, maybe I've grown jaded over this series (which sucks hard since it's practically been a sweet, sweet obsession of mine for 3 years or so, so I hope that is not the case). Cliché-as-hell writing at times, also innumerable segments without any BGM whatsoever. At least Lotus grew a lot on me, so that's a plus. The endings are also too goddamn soon, feels like they appear only a couple hours in so it's hard to get invested, and also there aren't that many new developments. Feeling bad about this. Siiiiiiigh. Ouch, this has to suck. I never really got into 999 myself, be it the emulator or the fact that I played the games out of order like an idiot... or neither of these ,who knows. Well, hopefully ZE3 turns out good and makes up for this. As for me I'm just slowly making my way through Kara no Shoujo 2. Still in the village segment, and it honestly just feels like reading an entirely different VN - though I am enjoying it quite a bit. Also the writer's kanji fetish is back with a vengeance, it almost feels like he set the story further in the past just so he could get even more ridiculous with his vocabulary. Quote
Funyarinpa Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 https://imgur.com/xlMJ2k7 How did I manage this in 2 days and still feel that it was short Quote
Fred the Barber Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Funyarinpa said: https://imgur.com/xlMJ2k7 How did I manage this in 2 days and still feel that it was short You really need to clock 10 more minutes on that guy. Quote
Eclipsed Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 That's why I don't intend on rereading any VNs. The magics usually gone and the 8+/10 emotional high you get dissipates from having to repeat the story and knowing everything already, only leaving you to find flaws and annoyances with maybe a plus like Lotus if you're lucky. If i replayed 999 its def. gonna drop to like < 7 on my VznD. All my VNs would. Except s;g, rewrite and grisaia. maybe. Quote
Funyarinpa Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 41 minutes ago, Eclipsed said: That's why I don't intend on rereading any VNs. The magics usually gone and the 8+/10 emotional high you get dissipates from having to repeat the story and knowing everything already, only leaving you to find flaws and annoyances with maybe a plus like Lotus if you're lucky. If i replayed 999 its def. gonna drop to like < 7 on my VznD. All my VNs would. Except s;g, rewrite and grisaia. maybe. Holy fucking shit are you aware that you just hit 5K Eclipsed 1 Quote
Funyarinpa Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Fred the Barber said: You really need to clock 10 more minutes on that guy. You sure ya don't mean one minute? Quote
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