onomatope*'s lastest title - Kyuuketsuki no Libra - is coming to Steam

[Deep Blue]

I haven't read that novel maybe in the future (i'm not really into charage I need some real drama  ) so I can't say if his translation is good or bad (mdz's) but I do like darbury's work, I read the cheese parody, the whale blog, etc, all his works are pretty good in my opinion. Maybe we have the team right under our noses and we don't know it yet.

[MiKandi Japan]

Our next gameplay preview video is up! Looking forward...

[Deep Blue]

I'm displeased by the lack of controversial stuff on that translation, too clean and well done. How can we argue and create a flame war now?

Now seriously good job  

[Satsuki]

Well, let's argue. I want them to keep the way the character "lengthen" the sentence (...have no idea what they call it in English), like "She woke upppp!" instead of just "She woke up!", or "Wa-ke-up!" (or something like that) instead of just "Wake up!".

[CeruleanGamer]

Let's bump this shit up and get hyped! We were talking about nuns in the chat earlier. More nun hype!  

[Deep Blue]

this is gonna be fun 

[MiKandi Japan]

Good News Everyone!

Pending approval of Kickstarter, we plan to launch the "Libra of the Vampire Princess" campaign on December 10, 2015.



We know you've all been anxiously awaiting this news (we have, too)! All in all, we're at a point where we (MiKandi Japan and XERO) feel the project has reached our target for supporters and momentum. So, the time has come to "put the pedal to the metal" and steamroll through the holiday season to victory!

This is a crucial time, so please stay tuned for more announcements!

Ever thankful for your support,

MiKandi Japan and XERO

PS: If you haven't caught the preview of our campaign, we urge you to stop by our Prefundia page and check out all the goodies! We have quite a few surprises to be revealed on launch day, too. Here we go!

[Deep Blue]

get hype 

[sanahtlig]

Good News Everyone!

Pending approval of Kickstarter, we plan to launch the "Libra of the Vampire Princess" campaign on December 10, 2015.

You mentioned that you've managed to cut costs a bit.  What's the new initial funding goal?

[CeruleanGamer]

Aoi-chan and Lycoris-chan, I'm coming for you both! Get hyped! 

[Maxel]

This doesn't look good...

Root Double 120k 30% TL/ED 60% Licensing/Porting 10% KS

vs

Libra 160k 50% TL/ED 20% Development(?) 20% Rewards 10% KS

• Root Double is a 50 hours game, TL+ED will cost them 36k$ and it will be done by Lemnisca, they did good TLs previously, or so community say. [85 EGS]
• For the whole TLC/Re-TL/QC Muv-Luv wanted 57,5k$. It was supossed to be done by Ixrec/Alternative Projects and some other "experts"  The length of ML/MLA is approx 80 hours [90 EGS]
• Libra on the other side will need 80k$ for translation, length of the game is approx 20 hours, forgive me if I'm wrong, saw only 2 reviews on EGS listing 12h and 15h. Translation is done by people inside. [70 EGS]

TL;DR

•  Root Double - 50 hours - 36,000$ - 85 EGS Rating
•  ML/MLA - 80 hours - 57,500$ - 90 EGS Rating
•  Libra - 20 hours - 80,000$ - 70 EGS Rating(Low amount of votes tho, might be not too accurate)

 

Would also add Clannad/Grisaia etc. but I don't see a point... I still would like to play Libra and give it a chance, maybe if it'll be on sale on Steam for 20-25$ I'll consider buying it. Good Luck with the Kickstarter. 

Edited December 4, 2015 by Maxel

[Decay]

The raw script size is somewhat equivalent to that of 40 hour titles like Subahibi, Hoshimemo, and Noble Works, IIRC (they removed that bit from the prefundia but I believe they said it was 2.5mb). So maybe the EGS estimates aren't accurate? Maybe Clephas can clear up the game's length since he has played it.

The Lemnisca guys still have day jobs to support them and are heavily underpaying themselves for their work. Who knows what the situation is at MiKandi Japan. Not every project is the same and not every company is the same, making direct comparisons like this doesn't really prove much.

[sanahtlig]

It doesn't really make a difference to anyone where the funds go as long as project expectations are met--backers typically only care about backer rewards and how they're priced.  That 1.2mil raised by the MLA project is going somewhere unspecified--the stretch goals obviously didn't cost them 900k to implement.  Someone's pocketing the difference.  What matters here is that those projects were willing to make do with less money if they had to.

Whether the initial funding goal is 10k or 200k doesn't really matter to individual backers.  We'll give MiKandi the benefit of the doubt and assume they'll deliver whatever they promise.  It's all a matter of whether the project can actually clear whatever funding goal they set.  The only ones who actually lose out if they set an unreachable goal are the company themselves.

Edited December 5, 2015 by sanahtlig

[MiKandi Japan]

This doesn't look good...

Root Double 120k 30% TL/ED 60% Licensing/Porting 10% KS

vs

Libra 160k 50% TL/ED 20% Development(?) 20% Rewards 10% KS

• Root Double is a 50 hours game, TL+ED will cost them 36k$ and it will be done by Lemnisca, they did good TLs previously, or so community say. [85 EGS]
• For the whole TLC/Re-TL/QC Muv-Luv wanted 57,5k$. It was supossed to be done by Ixrec/Alternative Projects and some other "experts"  The length of ML/MLA is approx 80 hours [90 EGS]
• Libra on the other side will need 80k$ for translation, length of the game is approx 20 hours, forgive me if I'm wrong, saw only 2 reviews on EGS listing 12h and 15h. Translation is done by people inside. [70 EGS]

TL;DR

•  Root Double - 50 hours - 36,000$ - 85 EGS Rating
•  ML/MLA - 80 hours - 57,500$ - 90 EGS Rating
•  Libra - 20 hours - 80,000$ - 70 EGS Rating(Low amount of votes tho, might be not too accurate)

 

Would also add Clannad/Grisaia etc. but I don't see a point... I still would like to play Libra and give it a chance, maybe if it'll be on sale on Steam for 20-25$ I'll consider buying it. Good Luck with the Kickstarter. 

Yowza! 20 hours?!?! Erogamespace is mistaken! Libra gameplay, the FULL uncut version, is 60 hours. The Steam version will be 15% shorter than that with the H-scenes removed. We have stated that that version will be around 50 hours. Also, could you please pass us a link where you saw this incorrect information on EGS or elsewhere. Thanks.

UPDATE: We looked at EGS and found what we believe you were referencing for gameplay time. This just means that 2 people played the game for 11-15 hours. Maybe a player chose only one path and sped through the game like crazy, or another played Libra for 11-15 hours, quit, then decided to write a review. In any case, the full game is 60 hours. I suppose we could account for players with superhuman abilities. ;-)

Good News Everyone!

Pending approval of Kickstarter, we plan to launch the "Libra of the Vampire Princess" campaign on December 10, 2015.

You mentioned that you've managed to cut costs a bit.  What's the new initial funding goal?

We'll be making the new, reduced (sodium) budget public next Thursday when we launch. ;-)

Edited December 5, 2015 by MiKandi Japan

[Chuee]

I'll just leave this here for speculation *whistles*

[Nightmare799]

Jesus christ they need to ease up on the female cast numbers. No wonder so many people think VN´s are poorly written horndog fap material.

I mean, I dont really mind female characters, but they should really start thinking about striking some kind of balance.

[sanahtlig]

Jesus christ they need to ease up on the female cast numbers. No wonder so many people think VN´s are poorly written horndog fap material.

I mean, I dont really mind female characters, but they should really start thinking about striking some kind of balance.

*squints incredulously*

You realize what the target audience for eroge is... right?

Edited December 6, 2015 by sanahtlig

[Mephisto]

Jesus christ they need to ease up on the female cast numbers. No wonder so many people think VN´s are poorly written horndog fap material.

I mean, I dont really mind female characters, but they should really start thinking about striking some kind of balance.

*squints incredulously*

You realize what the target audience for eroge is... right?

Doesn't change the fact that having a strong male cast is pretty awesome. Most of my favorite characters from VNs have been male characters (and not limited to protagonist).

[Decay]

Most Chuuni games tend to have multiple male side characters. I don't really think of it as that big of a deal, especially since Libra seems to be a much less serious one.

[Dark_blade64]

This doesn't look good...

Root Double 120k 30% TL/ED 60% Licensing/Porting 10% KS

vs

Libra 160k 50% TL/ED 20% Development(?) 20% Rewards 10% KS

• Root Double is a 50 hours game, TL+ED will cost them 36k$ and it will be done by Lemnisca, they did good TLs previously, or so community say. [85 EGS]
• For the whole TLC/Re-TL/QC Muv-Luv wanted 57,5k$. It was supossed to be done by Ixrec/Alternative Projects and some other "experts"  The length of ML/MLA is approx 80 hours [90 EGS]
• Libra on the other side will need 80k$ for translation, length of the game is approx 20 hours, forgive me if I'm wrong, saw only 2 reviews on EGS listing 12h and 15h. Translation is done by people inside. [70 EGS]

TL;DR

•  Root Double - 50 hours - 36,000$ - 85 EGS Rating
•  ML/MLA - 80 hours - 57,500$ - 90 EGS Rating
•  Libra - 20 hours - 80,000$ - 70 EGS Rating(Low amount of votes tho, might be not too accurate)

 

Would also add Clannad/Grisaia etc. but I don't see a point... I still would like to play Libra and give it a chance, maybe if it'll be on sale on Steam for 20-25$ I'll consider buying it. Good Luck with the Kickstarter. 

Yowza! 20 hours?!?! Erogamespace is mistaken! Libra gameplay, the FULL uncut version, is 60 hours. The Steam version will be 15% shorter than that with the H-scenes removed. We have stated that that version will be around 50 hours. Also, could you please pass us a link where you saw this incorrect information on EGS or elsewhere. Thanks.

UPDATE: We looked at EGS and found what we believe you were referencing for gameplay time. This just means that 2 people played the game for 11-15 hours. Maybe a player chose only one path and sped through the game like crazy, or another played Libra for 11-15 hours, quit, then decided to write a review. In any case, the full game is 60 hours. I suppose we could account for players with superhuman abilities. ;-)

Good News Everyone!

Pending approval of Kickstarter, we plan to launch the "Libra of the Vampire Princess" campaign on December 10, 2015.

You mentioned that you've managed to cut costs a bit.  What's the new initial funding goal?

We'll be making the new, reduced (sodium) budget public next Thursday when we launch. ;-)

Wait a second! 10 hours were cut due h-scenes? I'm not an expert regarding adult version of these games but that sounds a lot! I thought most h-scenes could be read in a couple of minutes so this strikes me as odd surprising news...

[Mephisto]

This doesn't look good...

Root Double 120k 30% TL/ED 60% Licensing/Porting 10% KS

vs

Libra 160k 50% TL/ED 20% Development(?) 20% Rewards 10% KS

• Root Double is a 50 hours game, TL+ED will cost them 36k$ and it will be done by Lemnisca, they did good TLs previously, or so community say. [85 EGS]
• For the whole TLC/Re-TL/QC Muv-Luv wanted 57,5k$. It was supossed to be done by Ixrec/Alternative Projects and some other "experts"  The length of ML/MLA is approx 80 hours [90 EGS]
• Libra on the other side will need 80k$ for translation, length of the game is approx 20 hours, forgive me if I'm wrong, saw only 2 reviews on EGS listing 12h and 15h. Translation is done by people inside. [70 EGS]

TL;DR

•  Root Double - 50 hours - 36,000$ - 85 EGS Rating
•  ML/MLA - 80 hours - 57,500$ - 90 EGS Rating
•  Libra - 20 hours - 80,000$ - 70 EGS Rating(Low amount of votes tho, might be not too accurate)

 

Would also add Clannad/Grisaia etc. but I don't see a point... I still would like to play Libra and give it a chance, maybe if it'll be on sale on Steam for 20-25$ I'll consider buying it. Good Luck with the Kickstarter. 

Yowza! 20 hours?!?! Erogamespace is mistaken! Libra gameplay, the FULL uncut version, is 60 hours. The Steam version will be 15% shorter than that with the H-scenes removed. We have stated that that version will be around 50 hours. Also, could you please pass us a link where you saw this incorrect information on EGS or elsewhere. Thanks.

UPDATE: We looked at EGS and found what we believe you were referencing for gameplay time. This just means that 2 people played the game for 11-15 hours. Maybe a player chose only one path and sped through the game like crazy, or another played Libra for 11-15 hours, quit, then decided to write a review. In any case, the full game is 60 hours. I suppose we could account for players with superhuman abilities. ;-)

Good News Everyone!

Pending approval of Kickstarter, we plan to launch the "Libra of the Vampire Princess" campaign on December 10, 2015.

You mentioned that you've managed to cut costs a bit.  What's the new initial funding goal?

We'll be making the new, reduced (sodium) budget public next Thursday when we launch. ;-)

Wait a second! 10 hours were cut due h-scenes? I'm not an expert regarding adult version of these games but that sounds a lot! I thought most h-scenes could be read in a couple of minutes so this strikes me as odd surprising news...

I'm guessing these numbers are based on line counts. H-scenes are deceptively long when counted this way, because there are actually a lot of lines in an H-scene, albeit short lines/lines that are skimmed through extremely quickly. To quote an example, mare's route in Eternal Heart is about 5400~ lines, with another 1200~ lines of H-scenes. Based on line counts, nearly 20% of the route is H-scenes. I ctrl-ed through the scenes themselves so I can't say how long it would actually take reading them, but I wouldn't consider cutting the h-scenes as cutting 20% of the route, despite that being the case line count wise. 

 

[sanahtlig]

I'm also surprised that 15% of the script is H-scenes.  The game must have a truly prodigious amount of ero.  Your average nukige doesn't even have 10hrs of H-scenes.

[MiKandi Japan]

This doesn't look good...

Root Double 120k 30% TL/ED 60% Licensing/Porting 10% KS

vs

Libra 160k 50% TL/ED 20% Development(?) 20% Rewards 10% KS

• Root Double is a 50 hours game, TL+ED will cost them 36k$ and it will be done by Lemnisca, they did good TLs previously, or so community say. [85 EGS]
• For the whole TLC/Re-TL/QC Muv-Luv wanted 57,5k$. It was supossed to be done by Ixrec/Alternative Projects and some other "experts"  The length of ML/MLA is approx 80 hours [90 EGS]
• Libra on the other side will need 80k$ for translation, length of the game is approx 20 hours, forgive me if I'm wrong, saw only 2 reviews on EGS listing 12h and 15h. Translation is done by people inside. [70 EGS]

TL;DR

•  Root Double - 50 hours - 36,000$ - 85 EGS Rating
•  ML/MLA - 80 hours - 57,500$ - 90 EGS Rating
•  Libra - 20 hours - 80,000$ - 70 EGS Rating(Low amount of votes tho, might be not too accurate)

 

Would also add Clannad/Grisaia etc. but I don't see a point... I still would like to play Libra and give it a chance, maybe if it'll be on sale on Steam for 20-25$ I'll consider buying it. Good Luck with the Kickstarter. 

Yowza! 20 hours?!?! Erogamespace is mistaken! Libra gameplay, the FULL uncut version, is 60 hours. The Steam version will be 15% shorter than that with the H-scenes removed. We have stated that that version will be around 50 hours. Also, could you please pass us a link where you saw this incorrect information on EGS or elsewhere. Thanks.

UPDATE: We looked at EGS and found what we believe you were referencing for gameplay time. This just means that 2 people played the game for 11-15 hours. Maybe a player chose only one path and sped through the game like crazy, or another played Libra for 11-15 hours, quit, then decided to write a review. In any case, the full game is 60 hours. I suppose we could account for players with superhuman abilities. ;-)

Good News Everyone!

Pending approval of Kickstarter, we plan to launch the "Libra of the Vampire Princess" campaign on December 10, 2015.

You mentioned that you've managed to cut costs a bit.  What's the new initial funding goal?

We'll be making the new, reduced (sodium) budget public next Thursday when we launch. ;-)

Wait a second! 10 hours were cut due h-scenes? I'm not an expert regarding adult version of these games but that sounds a lot! I thought most h-scenes could be read in a couple of minutes so this strikes me as odd surprising news...

I'm guessing these numbers are based on line counts.

[Mephisto]

I don't think it's that surprising. I'll try making up some numbers to see if a reasonable conclusion can be reached.

Another game that is around 50+ hours is Aiyoku no Eustia. Aiyoku no Eustia has 65489 lines. 

15% of 65489 lines is 9823.35 -> 9823 lines of h-scenes. 

The number differs based on game, but I think the average line count of a single H-scene is about 400-500 lines. Some games maybe have shorter ones. (This is not 400-500 lines of sex, this is considering the H-scene as the entire scene itself. Some story segments may be included in an "h-scene".) 

Under this conclusion, the game would have ~20 H-scenes. 

There are 7 heroines in this game. 

If each heroine has about 3 H-scenes (which is a pretty standard number for moege), that would lead to us having 21 H-scenes, which fits in the ball park. I think the VN I mentioned Aiyoku no Eustia has 1-2 H-scenes for each of the main heroines, as well as some other stuff in the extras section. (rip didn't see most of them since I just followed the true route). 

I can't check since I lost all my save files for VNs when I changed computers. 

[Decay]

I'm also surprised that 15% of the script is H-scenes.  The game must have a truly prodigious amount of ero.  Your average nukige doesn't even have 10hrs of H-scenes.

That's actually a pretty standard percentage when you start doing the math with a lot of games.