WinterfuryZX Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Narcissu Did better from the start, and its base goal was 75k, also, that kickstarter didn't even reach 100k. Quote
WinterfuryZX Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 I backed out from libra. I decided to concentarte my funding on RD. Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Once Libra's base goal is exceeded by a comfortable amount (they're definitely gonna make it now, it just got over $10000 today), can some of the backers withdraw some of their pledge amounts to be donated to Root Double instead...? Pretty please... is anyone going to argue that stretch goals and/or some tier rewards are more important than RD being a bare-minimum success? I'm sorry (to Zenophilious too) for my shameful request, I'm just really that anxious right now T__T Quote
Vorathiel Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Actually... why are you so obsesed with this title? Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 9 minutes ago, Vorathiel said: Actually... why are you so obsesed with this title? Because it's actually a great visual novel that no one knows about and would be ideal for any newcomer to the medium, due to its immediate action/suspense from the very beginning and lack of both 18+ content and dating-sim elements... so I want to see it succeed.  7 minutes ago, Zenophilious said: You don't need to apologize, man, I just don't like seeing people depressed. As I'm sure you remember, I don't really like SP all that much (dovac personally messed with me on VNDB when I was trying to give constructive criticism, and I will never change my opinion that he's a petulant man-child) and I don't really like how they roll business-wise, so there's no chance of me donating a cent, but I hope that it does get funded just so more people will be able to read it. If it makes you feel any better, some people were speculating that if it fails that they might just release it on Steam without a Kickstarter (like a normal business) and hope it sells well. Apparently dovac said they'd do that on reddit with some other VN they were Kickstarting back before he deleted his account, so at the very least, there's a slight possibility of that happening. I can't imagine they'd just let the TL for a fully-translated game just sit there, never to be released. That'd just make more people hate them. I guess that does make me feel a little better, thanks... Quote
RikiSanic Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 55 minutes ago, Zenophilious said: If it makes you feel any better, some people were speculating that if it fails that they might just release it on Steam without a Kickstarter (like a normal business) and hope it sells well. Apparently dovac said they'd do that on reddit with some other VN they were Kickstarting back before he deleted his account, so at the very least, there's a slight possibility of that happening. I can't imagine they'd just let the TL for a fully-translated game just sit there, never to be released. That'd just make more people hate them. I wouldn't be so sure about that. Dovac was talking about the WAS Kickstarter, which only had a $10,000 base goal. Witch Boy didn't reach its goal and we still haven't heard a word about it since. If anything, I'd expect them to relaunch the Kickstarter at a later date with less competition and a lower goal/more rewards. Basileus777 1 Quote
jetpack003 Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 54 minutes ago, Zenophilious said: Some people were speculating that if it fails that they might just release it on Steam without a Kickstarter (like a normal business) and hope it sells well. Is that the reason why SP frequently post VN titles on Kickstarter. To ensure its success? I thought that it was used to help boost their funding for localisation projects since they're low on budget. Right now, it seems like they're frequently using Kickstarter to the point that it looks like they're taking advantage of the situation.  I wonder how it compares to Mangagamer business-wise since I haven't seen any KS from them. Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Wait, so what exactly happened with Libra? It got ~$13,000 today and it's not even the last 1-2 days yet... was it because of MangaGamer's advertising or something? If so, can they do the same for Root Double...? Quote
Basileus777 Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, LightBladeNova said: Wait, so what exactly happened with Libra? It got ~$13,000 today and it's not even the last 1-2 days yet... was it because of MangaGamer's advertising or something? If so, can they do the same for Root Double...? MangaGamer advertised it because they reached a distribution deal to sell the game on their storefont and that's not going to happen with Root Double. Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 23 minutes ago, Basileus777 said: MangaGamer advertised it because they reached a distribution deal to sell the game on their storefont and that's not going to happen with Root Double.  Can they not advertise Root Double simply for the sake of the common goal of promoting visual novel localizations...? Quote
Dark_blade64 Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 1 minute ago, LightBladeNova said:  Can they not advertise Root Double simply for the sake of the common goal of promoting visual novel localizations...? The only way I see them advertising it is if root double will be released on their store which I doubt it because manggamer focus more in Adult-games rather than all-ages. Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, Dark_blade64 said: The only way I see them advertising it is if root double will be released on their store which I doubt it because manggamer focus more in Adult-games rather than all-ages. But is there any disadvantage for MangaGamer to just spread the word about Root Double? If there is one, let me know, because I don't see it... Quote
Dark_blade64 Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, LightBladeNova said: But is there any disadvantage for MangaGamer to just spread the word about Root Double? If there is one, let me know, because I don't see it... Dunno don't ask me, ask them. In any case they are the one to decide if they want spread the word which I don't remember see it happened before. Quote
Basileus777 Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 9 minutes ago, LightBladeNova said: But is there any disadvantage for MangaGamer to just spread the word about Root Double? If there is one, let me know, because I don't see it... They are just unlikely to go out of their way to send a newsletter about their competitor's project without a reason to do so. Quote
Deep Blue Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 6 hours ago, LightBladeNova said: Once Libra's base goal is exceeded by a comfortable amount (they're definitely gonna make it now, it just got over $10000 today), can some of the backers withdraw some of their pledge amounts to be donated to Root Double instead...? Pretty please... is anyone going to argue that stretch goals and/or some tier rewards are more important than RD being a bare-minimum success? I'm sorry (to Zenophilious too) for my shameful request, I'm just really that anxious right now T__T sorry but that's a really shitty thing to ask, why would you take away money from one project to put it into another one? We also told you several times that it will make it but you just don't listen to anyone and now ask this kind of thing :/ Quote
Scorp Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Why would Mangagamer sell a game, which is licensed by Sekai? What's the point in licensing, if you will pass a game to another company? VirginSmasher 1 Quote
WinterfuryZX Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 They can sell it on their shop, they did this many times. Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 31 minutes ago, Deep Blue said: sorry but that's a really shitty thing to ask, why would you take away money from one project to put it into another one? We also told you several times that it will make it but you just don't listen to anyone and now ask this kind of thing :/ I acknowledged it to be a shameful request, sorry... couldn't help it  forget I ever asked it then. And well, am I supposed to put blind faith in your assurances that everything will be alright? A lot of other people have been worrying as well, and clearly Root Double is in a different kind of situation from other kickstarters, due in large part to a combination of its lack of popularity, poor tier list, poor PR, and relatively high base goal. 17 minutes ago, Scorp said: Why would Mangagamer sell a game, which is licensed by Sekai? What's the point in licensing, if you will pass a game to another company? I didn't mention selling the game (though if it's possible, that'd be great), I was talking about just spreading the word. But I guess even that is being too idealistic in this competitive realm... Quote
WinterfuryZX Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Let's not forget that without this deal we would probably already have played 12riven. Quote
Scorp Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 30 minutes ago, WinterfuryZX said: They can sell it on their shop, they did this many times. Mangagamer sold games, licensed by Sekai project? Many times? Prooflinks, please. Quote
WinterfuryZX Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Never happened, they did it with other games. Quote
VirginSmasher Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 25 minutes ago, LightBladeNova said: I acknowledged it to be a shameful request, sorry... couldn't help it  forget I ever asked it then. And well, am I supposed to put blind faith in your assurances that everything will be alright? A lot of other people have been worrying as well, and clearly Root Double is in a different kind of situation from other kickstarters, due in large part to a combination of its lack of popularity, poor tier list, poor PR, and relatively high base goal. I didn't mention selling the game (though if it's possible, that'd be great), I was talking about just spreading the word. But I guess even that is being too idealistic in this competitive realm... Honestly, I'm worried about the Kickstarter as well, but there's no reason to take money away from a successful kickstarter to this one. Hell, if it fails, Sekai Project learns from this and they improve in my eyes (or they'll keep doing the same thing). Believe me, I want it to succeed and a lot of this community does as well, but having another competitor advertise their game isn't ideal for Sekai Project. XReaper and Kawasumi 2 Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 JAST sold MG's games on their website, so it's not without precedent. 13 minutes ago, WinterfuryZX said: Let's not forget that without this deal we would probably already have played 12riven. You say this with such confidence. Quote
Scorp Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 2 hours ago, WinterfuryZX said: Never happened, they did it with other games. Unless dovac go mad - will never happen in the future as well. As it is insane - you have an established business, made a deal with japanese game creators and give all away to your competitor  Quote
WinterfuryZX Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Mangagamer's site also serve as a "digital retailer" of other TP companies. This have nothing to do with licensing. Quote
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