VirginSmasher Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 1 hour ago, LightBladeNova said: So will the translators' work just all go to waste? I can't really imagine that happening... Root Double has to come eventually, but just not sure how, if the Kickstarter fails. How depressing that one of the most interesting visual novel localizations yet is in this kind of situation... That's probably what will happen. It's best to just read it how I'm going to. It may not be the best way to, but this Kickstarter honestly looks doomed in my eyes. It's at around 52,000 right now after 13 days. It hasn't even hit halfway to it's goal yet. Unless there's a giant surge in backing, it's gonna fail. Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, VirginSmasher said: That's probably what will happen. It's best to just read it how I'm going to. It may not be the best way to, but this Kickstarter honestly looks doomed in my eyes. It's at around 52,000 right now after 13 days. It hasn't even hit halfway to it's goal yet. Unless there's a giant surge in backing, it's gonna fail. I wanna cry Quote
Deep Blue Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 there is time left and this are the worst days of any project, give it a week or so, if it doesnt reach 80k-70k in 1 week then it is time to get alarmed but right now it still can be funded Quote
VirginSmasher Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 10 hours ago, Deep Blue said: there is time left and this are the worst days of any project, give it a week or so, if it doesnt reach 80k-70k in 1 week then it is time to get alarmed but right now it still can be funded Let's hope it can. It'd be a waste that this visual novel isn't exposed to the masses because it's really highly rated, even higher than some of the great translated visual novels right now. Quote
kingdomcome Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 I find the lack of effort by SP disturbing.. MiKandi on the other hand have done a superb job. BookwormOtaku, Kawasumi, Dark_blade64 and 1 other 4 Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 7 hours ago, kingdomcome said: I find the lack of effort by SP disturbing.. MiKandi on the other hand have done a superb job. Where exactly has Mikandi been advertising Libra (that Sekai has not already reached out to)? Cuz I'd like to go spam those places with Root Double's KS... Quote
Forgetful Frank Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Well thanks to this thread they just got another backer! It's been a while since I've backed anything on Kickstarter, but this VN seems completely worth it and I do need more VN's to play. LightBladeNova 1 Quote
kingdomcome Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 8 hours ago, LightBladeNova said: Where exactly has Mikandi been advertising Libra (that Sekai has not already reached out to)? Cuz I'd like to go spam those places with Root Double's KS... Haha, I also found your post on reddit. I'm pretty sure MiKandi did an update where they stated the places they did PR, but I can't seem to find it. What SP need to do it hire someone solely for PR, preferably a girl who really knows how to do all the social media stuff. If they constantly communicated with fans and the public they would receive higher pledges (if the tiers were a bit more... rewarding). Hiring someone for 4 hours a week to do daily PR would do them so much good, and the person hired can do it from home obviously. MiKandi have that down pat, but it really helps that there's so much communication between the developers and those involved (cosplayers/voice actors) - this is what we want! Quote
VirginSmasher Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, kingdomcome said: Haha, I also found your post on reddit. I'm pretty sure MiKandi did an update where they stated the places they did PR, but I can't seem to find it. What SP need to do it hire someone solely for PR, preferably a girl who really knows how to do all the social media stuff. If they constantly communicated with fans and the public they would receive higher pledges (if the tiers were a bit more... rewarding). Hiring someone for 4 hours a week to do daily PR would do them so much good, and the person hired can do it from home obviously. MiKandi have that done pat, but it really helps that there's so much communication between the developers and those involved (cosplayers/voice actors) - this is what we want! It's a shame that Sekai Project has to learn this lesson through this Kickstarter. They're sacrificing a great visual novel with bad tiers and not enough attention. I hope they realize that they have to try harder for this one because this visual novel doesn't have a following like Clannad and Grisaia. kingdomcome 1 Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, Zenophilious said: This guy's name is Chopped Liver. Apparently he's not doing a good job then... T_T VirginSmasher 1 Quote
kingdomcome Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, Zenophilious said: This guy's name is Chopped Liver. Damn.. I feel kinda bad, but my statement stands. 16 minutes ago, VirginSmasher said: It's a shame that Sekai Project has to learn this lesson through this Kickstarter. It really is, but they can still salvage this if they get onto it now. Quote
VirginSmasher Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 1 minute ago, LightBladeNova said: Apparently he's not doing a good job then... T_T I agree with that. It's still safe technically, but they're not doing anything to help their case which doesn't give me any more hope for this one. LightBladeNova 1 Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 You know that "Root Double better in some aspects than Steins;Gate" topic in the VN subreddit? That translator opinion was a comment from a Root Double post that I asked Operation Bluebird, the main Zero Escape fanpage on Facebook, to make like a week ago (sorry for bragging). But since then I haven't had any real success in advertising this KS to many people... Quote
Dergonu Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Damn ... The progress bar is moving incredibly slow. This doesn´t look good Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Are tiers the bigger problem, or is it that not enough people even know about this Kickstarter in the first place? I know both aspects work together in a KS campaign, but if many people don't even know about the Kickstarter, then better tiers wouldn't help that much... whereas if the tiers are bad but many people know about it, then at least there'll still be a relatively decent accumulation of funding. Quote
Dergonu Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, LightBladeNova said: Are tiers the bigger problem, or is it that not enough people even know about this Kickstarter in the first place? I know both aspects work together in a KS campaign, but if many people don't even know about the Kickstarter, then better tiers wouldn't help that much... whereas if the tiers are bad but many people know about it, then at least there'll still be a relatively decent accumulation of funding. It´s probably a mix of the two, but I think that few people know about it is the biggest issue right now. SP haven't done too much PR with this one. It´s kind of a shame. Then again, considering how popular they have gotten after Grisaia and Clannad there is still hope they get noticed more and more towards the end of the campaign. Also, seeing as the tiers have been improved thats a plus for future backers. Quote
Deep Blue Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 even with everything against them is doing almost 2k per day which is not bad but they are still doing things I don't agree with... for example the last update they did was just bad...why would you discredit another vn just to make a point? how can you think that is a good idea to point out defects of another vn, specially if it is one that everyone loves. It doesn't matter if they are right or wrong, for me that just a lame way of proceeding. Talk about your vn, don't compare it to another one specially comparing the flaws that might have... are you trying to fund root double or bad talking steins;gate? kingdomcome 1 Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Deep Blue said: even with everything against them is doing almost 2k per day which is not bad but they are still doing things I don't agree with... for example the last update they did was just bad...why would you discredit another vn just to make a point? how can you think that is a good idea to point out defects of another vn, specially if it is one that everyone loves. It doesn't matter if they are right or wrong, for me that just a lame way of proceeding. Talk about your vn, don't compare it to another one specially comparing the flaws that might have... are you trying to fund root double or bad talking steins;gate? Well, it would've been fine to just link the translator's opinion and let the people make of that as they will. But yes, I don't agree with Sekai outright saying that "this game is better compared to Steins;Gate", especially when the translator never actually said that. Sekai should've just said something like "Here's a translator's opinion comparing Root Double with Steins;Gate in certain aspects." Quote
Dergonu Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, Deep Blue said: even with everything against them is doing almost 2k per day which is not bad but they are still doing things I don't agree with... for example the last update they did was just bad...why would you discredit another vn just to make a point? how can you think that is a good idea to point out defects of another vn, specially if it is one that everyone loves. It doesn't matter if they are right or wrong, for me that just a lame way of proceeding. Talk about your vn, don't compare it to another one specially comparing the flaws that might have... are you trying to fund root double or bad talking steins;gate? Yes I dont understand that choice either ... All that really accomplishes is to anger Steins;gate fans. I mean, why not just make a point that the translator thinks this game is very promising and leave it at that. There is no reason to put down a different VN in the process. Actually, the fact that he has worked on such a popular title like Steins;gate should in itself be kind of a selling point for fans who might want to jump into this title and help the kickstarter, but they kind of burn that bridge by "smack talking" Steins;gate. It doesn´t seem to be intended like that, but it´s pretty much how it comes across, which is a bad thing. Hope they change that update in order to not get an abundance of negative feedback because of it. LightBladeNova 1 Quote
LightBladeNova Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, Dergonu said: Yes I dont understand that choice either ... All that really accomplishes is to anger Steins;gate fans. I mean, why not just make a point that the translator thinks this game is very promising and leave it at that. There is no reason to put down a different VN in the process. Actually, the fact that he has worked on such a popular title like Steins;gate should in itself be kind of a selling point for fans who might want to jump into this title and help the kickstarter, but they kind of burn that bridge by "smack talking" Steins;gate. It doesn´t seem to be intended like that, but it´s pretty much how it comes across, which is a bad thing. Hope they change that update in order to not get an abundance of negative feedback because of it. I asked Sekai in the comments section to modify that update, but apparently it was too late for them to make edits, so... welp -__- Let's just hope future updates will bury this one enough so that later backers won't see it lol. Dergonu 1 Quote
Deep Blue Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 They are not goofing around posting things on a forum, there is a lot of money at stake and it's their job ... they should be more careful on how they approach things, their behavior as a company sometimes leaves a lot to be desired. LightBladeNova and XReaper 2 Quote
grim_tales1 Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 I saw that comparison as them saying "If you love Steins Gate, you'll love this!" not that SG was crap or anything. Quote
Dergonu Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, grim_tales1 said: I saw that comparison as them saying "If you love Steins Gate, you'll love this!" not that SG was crap or anything. Yeah and thats what they intended as well, but sadly it comes off completely wrong for a lot of readers. Really shouldn´t have worded it quite like they did. Hopefully it won't have a very negative impact on people´s opinion. Hell, let´s hope it still has a positive effect. LightBladeNova 1 Quote
Decay Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 I'm as big of a Steins;Gate fanboy as they come and I thought it was just fine? You're making a mountain out of a molehill, here. Quote
Dergonu Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 2 hours ago, Decay said: I'm as big of a Steins;Gate fanboy as they come and I thought it was just fine? You're making a mountain out of a molehill, here. Well thats a good thing at least Maybe it is just me who reacted this way. To me it just reads: this is better than Steins;gate! I get the intent but it just feels like a strange way to word it. But yeah maybe it´s just me then Quote
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