<br ></li>discussion Cliche stories (AKA: unoriginal plot)

[VirginSmasher]

I dislike the cliche of every single girl you meet in a VN being able to be persuaded into sex/falling in love with you.

I'd love to see a VN where you try to start a route with one girl, and she's just like "You're not my type so no thanks." Try again, "No means no." Try again, you get a restraining order, bad end.

That'd disappoint a lot of people who would want that girl as a heroine. Plus, that can be put as a bad ending as long as there is a way to get her to like you.