sanahtlig Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 An ongoing project to document eroge with various types of censorship in an easily browsable and sortable spreadsheet Eroge with a censored official English release, a comprehensive list Community contributions, feedback, and corrections are appreciated. Freeform discussion within this thread is also welcome. LiquidShu, Canicheslayer, Rose and 2 others 5 Quote
solidbatman Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Came into this thread expecting nothing but a link to your blog. Was not disappointed. Eclipsed and suikashoujo 2 Quote
Decay Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 That Neko Para vol 2 patch is basically just an illegal pirated version of denpasoft's paid patch, dunno if you really want to include that. Or at least include an alternate link to Denpasoft's patch. Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 6 minutes ago, Decay said: That Neko Para vol 2 patch is basically just an illegal pirated version of denpasoft's paid patch, dunno if you really want to include that. Got it. If they have an official patch I'll link to it. Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 What a rather depressing list. Quote
Deep Blue Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 I think eden* is not actually censored in the way you describe it on that google doc, they did censor it ( when maya is taking a bath for example they added clothes on her on the steam version lol) but the eroge scenes were never part of the game(it was all version even in japan), those scenes they were added later on via patch and they are not part of the game itself (they are actually pretty bad) Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Deep Blue said: I think eden* is not actually censored in the way you describe it on that google doc, they did censor it ( when maya is taking a bath for example they added clothes on her on the steam version lol) but the eroge scenes were never part of the game(it was all version even in japan), those scenes they were added later on via patch and they are not part of the game itself (they are actually pretty bad) You'll notice I labeled it appropriately. Title Product link English release date Publisher (primary) Publisher (secondary) Adult version Mosaics? Non-adult version Description of censorship Remedies Eden* MangaGamer 1/30/2015 MangaGamer uncensored y uncensored The H-scenes are just tacked on as omake Pay a premium for the adult version Quote
Decay Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Oh, also Neko Para Vol. 0 has no adult version at all. The 18+ version you see on VNDB is a package edition that comes with an 18+ art book, the game is the same and is only ecchi. sanahtlig and Canicheslayer 2 Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Decay said: Oh, also Neko Para Vol. 0 has no adult version at all. The 18+ version you see on VNDB is a package edition that comes with an 18+ art book, the game is the same and is only ecchi. Not an eroge then. Deleted. Quote
Deep Blue Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, sanahtlig said: You'll notice I labeled it appropriately. Title Product link English release date Publisher (primary) Publisher (secondary) Adult version Mosaics? Non-adult version Description of censorship Remedies Eden* MangaGamer 1/30/2015 MangaGamer uncensored y uncensored The H-scenes are just tacked on as omake Pay a premium for the adult version "The H-scenes are just tacked on as omake " again the all version or non-adult version it is censored but not the h-scenes because there are none on either version, how can you censor something that it is not there to begin with? they did censor some minor scenes like partial nudity (you can't even see a tit on the original jap version so I don't see the point and "violent" scenes too. Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Deep Blue said: "The H-scenes are just tacked on as omake " again the all version or non-adult version it is censored but not the h-scenes because there are none on either version, how can you censor something that it is not there to begin with? they did censor some minor scenes like partial nudity (you can't even see a tit on the original jap version so I don't see the point and "violent" scenes too. Would it make you happy if I changed the column label from "Description of censorship" to something more vague like "Comments"? I went with the more specific label because it describes the contents of most of the cells in the column, i.e., providing details about the censorship. Quote
Deep Blue Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 9 hours ago, sanahtlig said: Would it make you happy if I changed the column label from "Description of censorship" to something more vague like "Comments"? I went with the more specific label because it describes the contents of most of the cells in the column, i.e., providing details about the censorship. is not about what makes me happy, you did a list and the information you are proving is incorrect I just want to correct that up, nothing more. Maybe I'm not explaining myself. *Original Jap version: All ages ---------------> eroge PATCH came later on to add new content. *Steam version: Censored version of the All ages original Jap release. You can also buy the original all ages version uncensored with the eroge patch that added the new content. EDIT: actually even on the mangagamer page they are not saying correctly so screw it if I remember correctly the violent scenes and "nudity" were on the jap ver too, maybe I'm being asinine (which wasn't my intention) and what I'm saying is incorrect so ignore my comments. Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 7 hours ago, Deep Blue said: is not about what makes me happy, you did a list and the information you are proving is incorrect I just want to correct that up, nothing more. Maybe I'm not explaining myself. *Original Jap version: All ages ---------------> eroge PATCH came later on to add new content. If a game has an official ero version, no matter when in the game's timeline it was released, it will be added to my list. Whether you consider that censorship or not (and yes, there's an argument to be made if the shop page or platform for the non-adult version doesn't mention or include the adult version), it fulfills primary goal 3 that I laid out in my blog post. Quote Documenting eroge with both adult and non-adult versions to help Steam users and casual VN players discover eroge Games where that applies will have the non-adult version tagged "uncensored". Quote
CeruleanGamer Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Now I can slap this google doc on these filthy casuals. Thanks for the wonderful list. Arcadeotic and sanahtlig 2 Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 I've added a new section to address complaints. Quote Why are games that weren't censored included in the list? Contrary to popular belief, there is no single agreed upon definition of censorship. The broad definition I'm using includes types of information control that many would not consider objectionable or "censorship". For example, I consider Steam a censored platform because it does not allow titles with ero content regardless of market demand. This creates an information gap where users who might be interested in adult titles are unable to buy them, even on other platforms, simply because they don't know about them. I'm interested in closing this gap. Eroge with a non-adult release in English fall under Primary Goal 3, and thus will be included in the list. Titles will be included even if the Japanese adult release came after the Japanese non-adult release. If the English non-adult release mirrors the Japanese one, it will be marked "uncensored". In summary, I'm documenting multiple types of censorship, and many users won't be interested in all of them. Don't grab your pitchforks simply because a game made the list. Please use the sort function to identify the types of censorship that interest you. Quote
Scorp Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Speaking of eden* you seems missing what Deep Blue tells - in normal version there are some scenes, where girl outfit was censored (like Maya got a swimsuit, while in 18+ version she is naked). So probably this should be added as censorship I guess? This is what I am speaking about: http://imgur.com/a/erjQO This is in main game, not omake. I believe there is more, that's just the one I remember. Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Scorp said: Speaking of eden* you seems missing what Deep Blue tells - in normal version there are some scenes, where girl outfit was censored (like Maya got a swimsuit, while in 18+ version she is naked). So probably this should be added as censorship I guess? I updated the description to reflect this. Thank you. I also updated the column header to please people like @Deep Blue. Quote Eden: The adult version adds blood and partial nudity to some scenes in the main scenario. The H-scenes are just tacked on as omake. Quote
Decay Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Phantom of Inferno should be on the list. Only available english version is the interactive DVD version, rated at 15+. As far as I know, there's no "remedy." edit: Several other Hirameki International releases also count. Yu-u-e-n-chi/Amusement Park, KoiYoubi/Day of Love, Natsuiro no Sunadokei/Hourglass of Summer, Majo no Ocha Kai/Tea Society of a Witch, Ishika & Honori, and Exodus Guilty. For all of these, the english releases were done via interactive DVDs and had the adult content removed. Natsuiro no Sunadokei and Exodus Guilty had all-ages console versions as their initial releases, then the adult versions were released, and then Hirameki International did their usual stuff. sanahtlig 1 Quote
WinterfuryZX Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Same for almost every other hirameki release ( Exodus guilty, hourglass of summer etc.) Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 Ah yes, the Hirameki games. Yes, I need to add those. Thanks. Quote
Decay Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 I should have edited faster. I have no idea if you can even still buy these anywhere. Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 24, 2016 Author Posted February 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Decay said: I should have edited faster. I have no idea if you can even still buy these anywhere. Doesn't matter. If it was officially released it's fair game. Especially since Hirameki deserves a place in the Hall of Shame for blatantly censoring so many games. Quote
Fred the Barber Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 If your goal is to document censorship, then I don't think it's rational to include eden* in the discussion. The "censored" release is identical to the original, and as far as I know only, Japanese release. It's more rational to refer to the other one (with its modified CGs and additional post-game content) as a pornified release - or whatever less derogatory term you prefer. By your classification, it's probably more accurate to just say that eden* wasn't an eroge, and then was made into one, rather than that an eroge was made and then censored. Quote
Decay Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 The document serves as a tool to inform users of alternate versions available and where to obtain them. Which came first is irrelevant. sanahtlig 1 Quote
Fred the Barber Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 Hmm. I thought it was an attempt to document acts of censorship, given the thread title, splash image, tone, etc. But if it's just an attempt to document that different versions available, then I stand corrected... but probably the melodrama needs to be toned down a bit, if that's it. solidbatman 1 Quote
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