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6 hours ago, Rooke said:

As for Sargon ... well you mean the guy who helped Breitbart attack feminists? Breitbart, as in the one who got banned from Twitter for relentlessly abusing Leslie Jones. That guy? Yeah, he's obviously a Saint.

Your proof of misogyny is that he "helped" Breitbart to "attack" feminists? Aside from that the fact that that statement is incredibly vague, it makes no sense. Sargon isn't affiliated with Breitbart and his twitter account is still standing. The guy even spoke out against the whole Leslie Jones thing.

It's a commen mistake to equate feminisim with women, when it's actually an ideology but you're going to have to do much better than that to prove misogyny on their part.

Ethan Ralph and another guy by the name of KingofPoll had people distancing themselves from them all the way back in early 2015. There is nothing to dispute there, I can dig up old ass videos and threads if you want.

So my understanding is that your problem isn't with gamergate itself but an inspecified number of "harrassers" that you swear exist, and you want GG to use their esper powers to stop it because their numerious efforts didn't please you.

[Darklord Rooke]

Since when did a) you ask for proof that Sargon is a misogynist and b) I seek to provide proof that Sargon is a misogynist?

Ethan Ralph having people distancing themselves from him in no way proves he wasn’t an influential figure within Gamergate. Something even Gamergaters themselves admit.

While feminism does not automatically equate to women, targeting people arguing for the equal treatment and representation of women under the banner of quality gaming journalism is very telling. Especially in an industry dominated by men and therefore with most of the problems created by, and indulged in by men.

My understanding is that your insistence of denying any responsibility by Gamergate hurts nobody but the Gamergate community themselves. That you now want to deny ‘harassers’ exist despite earlier conceding the point is telling. That you seek to move goalposts (plural) is also telling. That Gamergate has nary a leg to stand on is almost a certainty.

Gamergate never needed to ‘stop’ the harassment, all they needed to do was publicly denounce them (when all this shit started) and disassociate them with the movement. This never happened, despite your squealing. 

[Darklord Rooke]

Sargon of Akkad, this is how he’s viewed by the wider community: https://idledillettante.com/2015/08/12/sargon-of-akkad-a-thief-a-liar-and-a-bully/comment-page-1/

Considering this MODERATE (according to you) member of Gamergate is viewed by the community as an angry arsehole who likes to tear people down in videos that are borderline harassing and defaming, think hard why people view Gamergate the way they do.

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I'm not here to talk about feminism, but the fact that you don't even know what the critics of feminism are talking about is very telling. Since you don't know the second thing about Sargon either, he is pretty far from a misogynist too, depite his criticism of feminism.

I didn't concede the point, I told you of measures that were taken to preserve the gamergate image, which you promtly dismissed. I'm sure there are a small amount of trolls and harrassers which you are talking about but you have yet to show me that it was a widespread issue because "that wasn't your goal"

15 minutes ago, Rooke said:

Sargon of Akkad, this is how he’s viewed by the wider community: https://idledillettante.com/2015/08/12/sargon-of-akkad-a-thief-a-liar-and-a-bully/comment-page-1/

Considering this MODERATE (according to you) member of Gamergate is viewed by the community as an angry arsehole who likes to tear people down in videos that are borderline harassing and defaming, think hard why people view Gamergate the way they do.

I've watched Sargon for a while so I can tell you exactly what kind of videos he makes. So I don't need to find articles from people who will confirm my already held beliefs.

He takes for example articles etc... he disagrees with, and then makes a video in which the points out the parts he disagrees with (It's the basic premise of a reaction channel) and maybe calls the person an idiot along the way, other times he just discusses recent news. What is your definition of harrassing and "defaming" which implies false accusations? If you make a stupid video or article, be prepared for people to respond to it. He doesn't encourage fans to go to other channels to troll and has strictly told them that they shouldn't. 

You can watch a typical video of his here: https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=eYGNTJEtR_A

I don't care if you agree with him or not, but taking a random article from a random website is just reaching at straws.

This is also ignoring the fact that you made up a bunch of straight up lies about sargon earlier.

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This is why we can't have nice things.