Anime Boston and Sakura-Con Speculation and Announcements thread

[kyrt]

Honestly Sekai Project is probably better not releasing maitetsu on Steam simply because of the potential negative traction it could receive. This acquisition makes no sense based on sekai project's previous track record and commentary. I will continue being confused it seems...then again they announced acquisition of the license (inevitable indiegogo or kickstarter to follow) but said nothing about releasing it with all the routes fully intact. Guess people will just have to wait and see what comes of all of this. 

[sanahtlig]

Licensing a definitive loli-ge from an acclaimed developer of lolicon games--to then censor the lolis--is perhaps Dovac's finest moment.  He managed to troll lolicons, SJWs, and amaze and confuse the VN community all in one fell swoop.  While no one can quite imagine what twisted mind could possibly conceive that this was a good idea, all can agree that this moment will go down in history as the moment that the VN community met terrorism--and its face was Dovac.

[Decay]

28 minutes ago, Suzu Fanatic said:

Point being, the sort of people that would start a holy crusade against such content, aren't the type to split hairs on this matter - a loli is anything that "looks under 18" to them, regardless. So, if it hasent made waves yet - can't see it starting now. SP just has to play it safe, SELL the +18 version seperately, as a age-gate - not offer a patch.

 

Mind you, SP offered patches for both nekoparas right? And those characters were pretty questionable as far as looks go. (remove the cat ears and tails, and you can pretty safely call 3 of them lolis)

I really don't think this is the case. There are definitely people who would split hairs. And there are also people who just wouldn't notice or care about a loli if they still look like a young teen or something (Romanesque), versus a small child. I definitely think the degree of youthfulness matters greatly in this kind of thing. 

[Suzu Fanatic]

52 minutes ago, Zenophilious said:

And then you remember that the fear of some Canadian SP translators of being labeled child porn producers was one of the main reasons behind JAST not putting Kokoro's route in Shiny Days and releasing an "unofficial" patch, and that Kokoro is much older than the girls in Maitetsu...

True enough - I hadn't considered the whole Shiny Days affair.

Unless they're "really" confident it can sell on it's own, without the h-content - and leave that aspect buried as far away from them as possible (outside of a proactive hunt for cgs on image boards) Still, I agree it seems a high-risk title to show off, in hindsight.

[Decay]

I guess I'll go on record and say that overall, I mainly feel amused and apathetic about this. I'm perfectly okay with SP trying to sell this on Steam, and I even don't care about the lack of an 18+ version, and I look forward to the chaos that will ensue.

I don't actually care about the game, because I don't really like lolis.

[Darklord Rooke]

Just now, Decay said:

I guess I'll go on record and say that overall, I mainly feel amused and apathetic about this.

I've been grinning for the past hour, like this - 

Er, it's a grin full of sympathy of course ...

[Nosebleed]

6 minutes ago, Zenophilious said:

I'm glad he at least embraces the meme. That's probably the best course of action.

[Chuee]

1 hour ago, Zenophilious said:

And then you remember that the fear of some Canadian SP translators of being labeled child porn producers was one of the main reasons behind JAST not putting Kokoro's route in their version of Shiny Days and releasing an "unofficial" patch, and that Kokoro is much older than some of the girls in Maitetsu...

The issue with shiny days was the fact that Makoto very obviously raped Kokoro in some of them. There was a consensual scene with a girl that was basically Kokoro's age that got left in. 

 

1 hour ago, Decay said:

I guess I'll go on record and say that overall, I mainly feel amused and apathetic about this. I'm perfectly okay with SP trying to sell this on Steam, and I even don't care about the lack of an 18+ version, and I look forward to the chaos that will ensue.

I don't actually care about the game, because I don't really like lolis.

Even if you don't care for the content being removed, there are people that like that stuff, and it should at least be understandable why people would be a bit disappointed. I don't particularly care for lolis that young-looking, but I at least think it would be a shame if the content never ended up coming over. 

[KuroganeHomura]

Since we're on the topic of younger lolis, google "free style aji bitches" and view pages 30/31 to put things into perspective.

But yeah, I guess there is a certain cut-off point somewhere between loli and really young loli that does make a difference in how people will react.

On a entirely unrelated note, there's a Greenlight page for Schwarzesmarken up now. And seems SP is somehow involved with Degica now?

[Decay]

In this week's VNTS, I touch upon the social issue Maitetsu will face with Steam. Mainly, I wonder how many people will be afraid to buy and play Maitetsu on Steam purely out of shame? Another one of the problems this industry will end up running into with Steam is the inability to be discrete in the system, unless you choose to block yourself off from the community and your friends entirely.

I guess people could always buy a secondary account for this purpose, but when you start introducing hurdles like that, you start bleeding potential customers. They'll start feeling like they're doing something wrong, having to have a secondary account no one knows about, and will stop themselves. 

It's a complex psychological and sociological issue, to be sure.

[Suzu Fanatic]

1 hour ago, Decay said:

In this week's VNTS, I touch upon the social issue Maitetsu will face with Steam. Mainly, I wonder how many people will be afraid to buy and play Maitetsu on Steam purely out of shame?

Being all-ages (technically - at least on Steam anyway), there shouldn't be any more shame then owning any other anime-based vn or game imo - only people that are familiar with the medium - and more specifically, Lose - will have any idea. To anyone else, it's just more "anime trash". Now, if SP does something stupid like leave in any scenes that show skin - even if "safe" - or have anything that sexualizes the characters - THAT I could see causing problems, and hesitation from many consumers.

 

Otherwise if SP does proper censoring, it'll just be another moege(?)~

 

Afterthought: Afterall, from what I can tell - it's basically Kancol with trains - it just has a controversial origin.

 

Also, what is shame? I don't think it and I have ever met

[Maxel]

So, the h-scenes in Maitetsu are part of the story? I heard they are unlocked or something?

[Vorathiel]

7 hours ago, Zenophilious said:

Imagine the shit that would go down if parents found out that their kids were buying games from a company that was also selling a loli fucking game (obviously not true, but we all know how the media would report on that).

Not true? So Maitetsu isn't just a nukige with loli trains?


I'm just glad I'll get ImoPara 2.

[ChaosRaven]

I guess the only two releases worth mentioning of both companies are ImoPara 2 and Maitetsu.

I'm fine with ImoPara2 since it's more than I would have expected from such a small con, especially considering what rubbish MG 'could' have announced.

Sekai Project seems to have gotten inspired by Jast's Starless and do the same with Maitetsu just with lolis instead of fetish content. It's fascinating to see how our precious English VN publishers manage to always pick the most outrages titles between hundreds and thousands of other top VN's that would be perfectly save. Anyway, I'm not into loliges so I can fortunately follow the whole affair with a bemused smile. 

[Yuuko]

I'm reading Maitetsu at the moment. I can comment about it later.

[Satsuki]

7 minutes ago, Vorathiel said:

Not true? So Maitetsu isn't just a nukige with loli trains?

The thing that separate Lose and Galette is that Lose gives their games a proper plot rather than just straight out nukige  

[Maxel]

4 minutes ago, Kiriririri said:

I'm reading Maitetsu at the moment. I can comment about it later.

Tell me more about it then. 

[TheFantasm]

I would've vastly prefered Otoboku2 over Imopara 

[Suzu Fanatic]

@Kiriririri Damn, you move fast.

[Yuuko]

23 minutes ago, Suzu Fanatic said:

@Kiriririri Damn, you move fast.

Good games deserve it

[Vorathiel]

52 minutes ago, Satsuki said:

The thing that separate Lose and Galette is that Lose gives their games a proper plot rather than just straight out nukige  

That's...good to hear.

[FinalChaos]

Well the whole thing was disappointing to say the least.

As far as Maitetsu goes, I really don't see the reason to license a title they know is controversial only to remove the majority of it's content. While I didn't really have much plans for Maitetsu before, I absolutely deplore removal of content to give a half-assed product.     

Then there's Sakura Manga ........   

[Maxel]

3~ hours to SP Anime Boston Panel. (2 more titles?)

[Kawasumi]

people are actually wondering why maitetsu? Did you see how many bought the all ages nekopara versions lol.

And nekopara actually leads me to what I wanted to talk about, PRODUCTION VALUE.

Maitetsu has A LOT of it, including animated sprites even in the CGs (you cant deny that when you talk about vns, then this actually counts as something "out of the ordinary"), the game engine they use is solid as hell.

[john 'mr. customer' smith]

26 minutes ago, Kawasumi said:

people are actually wondering why maitetsu? Did you see how many bought the all ages nekopara versions lol.

And nekopara actually leads me to what I wanted to talk about, PRODUCTION VALUE.

Maitetsu has A LOT of it, including animated sprites even in the CGs (you cant deny that when you talk about vns, then this actually counts as something "out of the ordinary"), the game engine they use is solid as hell.

I agree. They're a company, and so long as there's more money to be made from localizing these high-value titles, that's what they're going to do. I don't blame them for that. They have released critically acclaimed vns in the past like planetarian and grisaia, neither of which sold very well. It's just a shame that the public perception of visual novels is developing this way