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KARAKARA, Dovac, Twitter wars, and overcharging for adult content

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sanahtlig Fuwa Master

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1 minute ago, XReaper said:

feeling pretty bad for him, i mean whoever may be at fault, or not, he clearly wasnt. heck the job of his was doing pr and now seeing him getting (i suppose his was made go) showed the door is quite the strange feeling, like a sacrifice doll or sth. =/

I'm going to speculate wildly and say that Dovac isn't firing the people he desperately needs.  Would he really fire a PR guy in this moment of need? No, more than likely it's the reverse (or neither).  How would you feel if your boss was undermining you at every turn?

Mkilbride Fuwa Veteran

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Yeah, imagine you work super hard at your job. You do a damn good job. Then your Boss comes around and screws it all up and now all that hard work, effort, time you put in, was wasted. You'd probably wanna leave too.

solidbatman Fuwa Master

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8 minutes ago, Mkilbride said:

Yeah, imagine you work super hard at your job. You do a damn good job. Then your Boss comes around and screws it all up and now all that hard work, effort, time you put in, was wasted. You'd probably wanna leave too.

So basically every job ever. 

Gonna miss DB. Super easy to work with, always prompt with responses, and just an all around great guy. 

Decay Fuwa Master

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I would refrain from jumping to conclusions about his departure. Usually people don't quite so suddenly, if he's quitting now it was probably in the plans for at least a little while now.

Darklord Rooke Fuwa Master

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Just now, Zenophilious said:

Don't take what dovac says on his twitter account at face value.  He's said numerous times that he wants to stop releasing VNs because the community is shit, and guess what?  He keeps snapping up VNs for his company to translate. 

What's interesting though is that his company is slowly shifting to other things - doujin games and even manga. If this shift proves to be profitable, it's not unfeasible that they'll slowly drift away from the VN landscape.

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1 hour ago, Zenophilious said:

Don't take what dovac says on his twitter account at face value.  He's said numerous times that he wants to stop releasing VNs because the community is shit, and guess what?  He keeps snapping up VNs for his company to translate.  He's also said that he doesn't really care about 18+ VNs because their readers are all pirates, but they're translating a nukige, Koikuma, and if they don't release an 18+ version of Maitetsu, there will be quite a lot of pissed off lolicons and "purists".  He throws tantrums all the time and says things he doesn't mean, in terms of actual business decisions, quite regularly.

My guess is Baldr's Sky will end up with a 18+ patch. The fallout if it doesn't will be epic. Maitetsu, on the other hand is pretty much screwed, cause they outright said it depends on how well it does on Steam if they will do a patch or not, and a lot people are not going to spend money for an edited version with no promise of restoration patch. 

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1 hour ago, Zenophilious said:

Don't take what dovac says on his twitter account at face value.  He's said numerous times that he wants to stop releasing VNs because the community is shit, and guess what?  He keeps snapping up VNs for his company to translate.  He's also said that he doesn't really care about 18+ VNs because their readers are all pirates, but they're translating a nukige, Koikuma, and if they don't release an 18+ version of Maitetsu, there will be quite a lot of pissed off lolicons and "purists".  He throws tantrums all the time and says things he doesn't mean, in terms of actual business decisions, quite regularly.

an all age in a nukige games? so it is only 10-20% content.............

1 hour ago, Zenophilious said:
1 hour ago, Rooke said:

What's interesting though is that his company is slowly shifting to other things - doujin games and even manga. If this shift proves to be profitable, it's not unfeasible that they'll slowly drift away from the VN landscape.

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That's very true, but at this point in time, it's not really feasible for them to stop translating VNs and switch to doujin games and manga.  The fanbase for the two won't make up for the one they would lose, as far as I can tell.  I don't deny that they're trying to expand, but I highly doubt they'll stop translating VNs anytime soon, at least until they get popular enough with manga readers.  Doujin games are always a bit of a gamble, and I can't see them seriously counting on a bunch of them to secure them regular income.

some of sekai project games:

rabi ribi- Owners: 56,024 ± 6,120 

tobari and the night of the curious moon - Owners: 3,501 ± 1,530

reverse x reverse - Owners: 1,401 ± 967

vs:

sakura games: min:  14,706 max: 1,079,157 average: (14,706+1,079,157)/2

 

not sure if it feasible to switch to doujin games tho even all the games are interesting and very hard

 

Basileus777 Fuwa Regular

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1 hour ago, Rooke said:

What's interesting though is that his company is slowly shifting to other things - doujin games and even manga. If this shift proves to be profitable, it's not unfeasible that they'll slowly drift away from the VN landscape.

Doujin games maybe, but there's been talk that breaking into the manga market has been more difficult than they expected.

TexasDice Fuwa Master

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11 hours ago, Zenophilious said:

 ... if they don't release an 18+ version of Maitetsu, there will be quite a lot of pissed off lolicons and "purists". 

And don't forget all the T1QakbL.png who are going to float around Fuwa.  

Darklord Rooke Fuwa Master

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9 hours ago, Basileus777 said:

Doujin games maybe, but there's been talk that breaking into the manga market has been more difficult than they expected.

True, I suppose. The market was saturated before they entered.

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20 hours ago, Basileus777 said:

Doujin games maybe, but there's been talk that breaking into the manga market has been more difficult than they expected.

not even to mention they´re apparent ambitions in becoming a known name doing lightnovels since licensing gate´s LN/manga, which turned out a whole fucking lot more difficult after kadokawa took over yenpress earlier this year and them now basically being in a semi-monopolistic position coming to (good) licenses in general.

Decay Fuwa Master

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SP has absolutely no LN ambitions right now, actually. Every time they're asked about it they immediately shoot down the idea and seem to think very poorly of the LN market in general.

Marcus Fuwa Regular

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On 8/1/2016 at 6:14 PM, sanahtlig said:

I'm beginning to wonder if Sekai Project might be falling apart at the seams.  This isn't the first person in the last week or so to say they're leaving Sekai Project.

Who else left? 

shadowolf64 Fuwa Senior

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11 minutes ago, Marcus said:

Who else left? 

As well as the two people mentioned above the staff list on Sekai no longer mentions Raymond Qian. 

I really hope this doesn't turn into a huge thing... if this is actually the reason for this and not just people leaving for other reasons. I would fucking hate to see a company putting out VN content to have something happen for such a stupid reason. SP still has a bunch of games slated to come out that I am looking forward to. Even if they have issues with the 18+ content I would hate to see a bunch of people lose their jobs or have something bad happen to the company because of departures. SP doesn't seem like a big enough company to just lose 2 or 3 employees without any consequence. 

Anyway hope this turns out alright and the people that are leaving find jobs soon. Who knows maybe this will end up being a good thing in the end? Or it may be horrible. Have to wait and see. 

Basileus777 Fuwa Regular

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10 minutes ago, shadowolf64 said:

As well as the two people mentioned above the staff list on Sekai no longer mentions Raymond Qian. 

I really hope this doesn't turn into a huge thing... if this is actually the reason for this and not just people leaving for other reasons. I would fucking hate to see a company putting out VN content to have something happen for such a stupid reason. SP still has a bunch of games slated to come out that I am looking forward to. Even if they have issues with the 18+ content I would hate to see a bunch of people lose their jobs or have something bad happen to the company because of departures. SP doesn't seem like a big enough company to just lose 2 or 3 employees without any consequence. 

Anyway hope this turns out alright and the people that are leaving find jobs soon. Who knows maybe this will end up being a good thing in the end? Or it may be horrible. Have to wait and see. 

If things really went down, there were a ton of internal reasons for it and this twitter drama was not the real cause.

shadowolf64 Fuwa Senior

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17 minutes ago, Basileus777 said:

If things really went down, there were a ton of internal reasons for it and this twitter drama was not the real cause.

True. This incident may have been the culmination of this conflict though. 

Edit: Looks like an official account on Reddit has posted a comment saying that everything is fine and Dovac is still with the company. Here

Baldur Fuwa Regular

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10 minutes ago, ChaosRaven said:

This is slowly getting worrying... :unsure:

No, it seems Dovac is still alive and working. For the disappointment of some people.

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