Otakon speculation and discussion thread

[sanahtlig]

32 minutes ago, RikiSanic said:

For starters, though, they should definitely hire KARAKARA's translator again, if they're open.

Isn't the translator in the credits?

[RikiSanic]

9 minutes ago, sanahtlig said:

Isn't the translator in the credits?

Just checked and it didn't mention any localization staff. :\

[VLOCKUP]

16 hours ago, Chuee said:

Let's not forget that it took 3 years to translate all of Da Capo III, yet nobody's hounding them over their decision to not assign another translator to it. 

As for someone who did followed Mangagamer blog or tweets(and the forums before it got bombed and still haven't recovered T_T), Da Capo III is a huge game. The prologue itself is big, The common route is also big. Overall DC3 is pretty much comparable to more or less Koihime Musou length which was the longest VN MG had worked on at the time. IIRC, perhaps Koryuu has compared words length of DC3 to LOTR novel length.

As for 3 years, Koryuu is the only assigned translator on it and it's mainly because for keeping the translation quality consistent as opposed to 2-3 translators on the project.

The point is: DC3 was never expected to be released within small timeframe after its announcement. And people who may want something similar to Da Capo has Princess Evangile for their fix. But most important of all, MG Project Status is steadily updated so people knew of its progress.

16 hours ago, Decay said:

So basically, things actually are progressing there now, and I think they're done announcing a large number of huge projects for the time being. It's interesting that the topic of SP announcing too much stuff for them to handle happened right after the con where they basically announced nothing.

Well, aside from cons, SP did announce titles outside of them after all, and people may be including what accumulating to "announcing too much" backlog.

[wyldstrykr]

2 hours ago, VLOCKUP said:

As for 3 years, Koryuu is the only assigned translator on it which is Koryuu and it's mainly because for keeping the translation quality consistent as opposed to 2-3 translators on the project.

what about aaeru? how long did she translate DC III on ~44%

and yes, i just assume her gender

[Decay]

DC3 definitely progressed slower than a VN of its size normally does even with one translator. MG has had similarly sized projects that have progressed much faster, such as Princess Evangile, which was announced and released within the duration DC3 was in translation for. And even that was delayed for like six months during the beta testing process. Kouryuu often has other duties at MangaGamer as their head translator, though, which probably accounts for DC3's delays. I don't think anyone would dispute this, Kouryuu himself was saying how they were aiming for a 2014 release back when they announced it. They really were expecting it to finish and release it a good two years ago. Shit happens, though.

3 hours ago, wyldstrykr said:

what about aaeru? how long did she translate DC III on ~44%

and yes, i just assume her gender

Aaeru was basically machine translating it. You shouldn't use her speed as a judge of anything.

5 hours ago, VLOCKUP said:

As for someone who did followed Mangagamer blog or tweets(and the forums before it got bombed and still haven't recovered T_T), Da Capo III is a huge game. The prologue itself is big, The common route is also big. Overall DC3 is pretty much comparable to more or less Koihime Musou length which was the longest VN MG had worked on at the time. IIRC, perhaps Koryuu has compared words length of DC3 to LOTR novel length.

As for 3 years, Koryuu is the only assigned translator on it which is Koryuu and it's mainly because for keeping the translation quality consistent as opposed to 2-3 translators on the project.

The point is: DC3 was never expected to be released within small timeframe after its announcement. And people who may want something similar to Da Capo has Princess Evangile for their fix. But most important of all, MG Project Status is steadily updated so people knew of its progress.

Well, aside from cons, SP did announce titles outside of them after all, and people may be including what accumulating to "announcing too much" backlog.

I don't fully trust that DC3 is as long as MangaGamer would lead us to believe. From what I can tell, it's about on par with Princess Evangile and many of the other long-ish moege getting translated out there. It's not some incredible epic of unprecedented length. And if MangaGamer's forums were still up you could see posts in 2013 from Kouryuu stating they were aiming for a spring/summer 2014 release. Again though, I don't really blame MangaGamer and I'm not harping on them for this.

As for SP, they haven't really been announcing any Japanese VN translations outside of cons for the last few months to my knowledge.

[WinterfuryZX]

DCIII is listed as a 30-50 hrs game on vndb. It shouldn't be that long.

[ChaosRaven]

Apparently it has more than 4 MB of text so it should be the longest VN they've ever translated, since Koihime and Evangile just had about 3 MB. (Not sure about Umineko though...)

VNDB length infos are pretty unreliable since everything >= 2 MB seems to get the long description.

Tokyo Babel has about 2 MB of text and is listed as long. But Shin Koihime Musou too with almost 6 MB (!!!) of text.

So yeah, VNDB length infos suck pretty hard.

[Conjueror]

I think I saw it mentioned that Da Capo 3 has about two million characters, which is about twice the length of an average VN (TB and Himawari have around one million). That would take 1-1.5 years for me if I was working on my own.

If you combine all episodes of Umineko, I think you end up with around 3-4 million so that one is way more insane.

[VLOCKUP]

3 hours ago, Decay said:

DC3 definitely progressed slower than a VN of its size normally does even with one translator. MG has had similarly sized projects that have progressed much faster, such as Princess Evangile, which was announced and released within the duration DC3 was in translation for. And even that was delayed for like six months during the beta testing process. Kouryuu often has other duties at MangaGamer as their head translator, though, which probably accounts for DC3's delays. I don't think anyone would dispute this, Kouryuu himself was saying how they were aiming for a 2014 release back when they announced it. They really were expecting it to finish and release it a good two years ago. Shit happens, though.

Aaeru was basically machine translating it. You shouldn't use her speed as a judge of anything.

I don't fully trust that DC3 is as long as MangaGamer would lead us to believe. From what I can tell, it's about on par with Princess Evangile and many of the other long-ish moege getting translated out there. It's not some incredible epic of unprecedented length. And if MangaGamer's forums were still up you could see posts in 2013 from Kouryuu stating they were aiming for a spring/summer 2014 release. Again though, I don't really blame MangaGamer and I'm not harping on them for this.

As for SP, they haven't really been announcing any Japanese VN translations outside of cons for the last few months to my knowledge.

I know Kouryuu has other duties aside from translating VNs and what you said so it is not out of bounds that he finished later than expected.

As for SP, true. But then again, it feels that their priority is sometimes juggle between doujin, OEL and All Ages VNs. I mean, so far they have mostly released those. Aside from being Sakura and Neko Publisher.

Also, out of topic but relevant, Sekai Project announced two titles at AnimeFest.