Ray97 Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) So, I'm usually using Chiitrans App to read untranslated JP VN. However, today, after updating my windows the app refused to pick up any text in the VN as shown by the image g Anyone know how to fix this issue? Uninstalling didn’t work for me either Edited April 21, 2017 by Ray97 Font colour Quote
Akimoto Masato Posted April 21, 2017 Posted April 21, 2017 If you didn't notice, some visual novels are trying to drop support for those things so they can get paid for the translated version im probably wrong, but idk Quote
Ray97 Posted April 22, 2017 Author Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, Akimoto Masato said: If you didn't notice, some visual novels are trying to drop support for those things so they can get paid for the translated version im probably wrong, but idk Nah I doubt that was the cause for this case. It turns out the windows update caused the program was running fine on my other PC(which doesn't install the latest update yet) and behave the same way when I installed the latest update on the PC More Detail: Looks like Chiitrans have a problem with .net frameworks v4.7. So, if you're using Chiitrans and facing the same issue, I recommend to go back to v4.6 to avoid this issue Edited April 22, 2017 by Ray97 More Detail sanahtlig 1 Quote
RafaChino Posted April 23, 2017 Posted April 23, 2017 Mind to teach your ways how to revert from 4.7? Googled but to no avail Quote
Ray97 Posted April 23, 2017 Author Posted April 23, 2017 10 hours ago, RafaChino said: Mind to teach your ways how to revert from 4.7? Googled but to no avail If you're using Windows 10: Go to Windows Update ---> Update History ---> Uninstall Updates OR choose the Recovery tabs instead of Windows Update and select "Go Back to an earlier build" Quote
sanahtlig Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) On 4/21/2017 at 3:53 PM, Akimoto Masato said: If you didn't notice, some visual novels are trying to drop support for those things so they can get paid for the translated version Text-hooking was never 'supported' by developers to begin with. And the people who text-hook are a tiny and inconsequential fraction of the English fanbase. The reason that text-hooking compatibility could be dropping is that VNR, which featured continuously-updated engine support, is no longer being maintained. On top of that, the AGTH code database disappeared into the void due to collective apathy, making H-codes less accessible. Edited April 24, 2017 by sanahtlig Quote
EdwardWongHPTIV Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 If I had to make a guess text-hooking is probably only possible via the Win32 API? If so it may be that MS is trying it's best to block access to certain portions of the Win32 API from .NET because of "security" concerns... legitimately or not. Seems like they've been harping on about how windows apps are so much more secure than those nasty old windows applications. At least that's what I recall being said when certain game industry peeps complained about MS trying to force everything into their store. Because sandboxed apps are soooo much more secure. Sandboxes are never gotten around, you know? Well it's all a moot point if I'm wrong about the need for Win32 API. But if I'm right that sorta sucks for any text hooking programs written on .NET. Quote
iamnoob Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Got another problem with Chiitrans here. Chiitrans does not seem to pick up text from Senran Banka (千恋*万花) Im sure my Chiitrans is working since I tested it with 3 other VNs and it picks up those text fine. It seems to only not work with this game and I have no idea why Quote
ChaosRaven Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Chiitrans doesn't hook all VN's. You can try to use ITH for text hooking instead and just let Chiitrans parse the text fom the clipboard. I think there was also a way to use an H-code in Chiitrans, so you could also search one for Senran Banka. Or you just wait until Sekai Project releases the translated version. Quote
Yuuko Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 Senren Banka is krkrz so it should work with any text hooker pretty much but I can at least confirm that it works with ITHVNR so might want to check that. Quote
iamnoob Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) krkrz? H-code? ITH? Can't quite understand but from what I know you're suggesting using ITH to hook to the VN then use Chiitrans to translate that? AKA use ITH as an inbetween? I can use VNR to get text but how do I get Chiitrans to use that from VNR since I only know how to use it to connect to VNs. Edited October 29, 2017 by iamnoob Quote
Yuuko Posted October 29, 2017 Posted October 29, 2017 http://www.hongfire.com/forum/forum/hentai-lair/hentai-game-discussion/tools-and-tutorials/411001-ithvnr-ith-with-the-vnr-engine >options & copy text to clipboard >turn somewhere in chiitrans that it reads clipboard Quote
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