Kara no Shojo (slight spoilers)

[Stormwolf]

Started playing this, and i must say it's generally good. It does have some small scale issues where victims are almost always known to mc though, which makes everything seem less serious, and more silly and forced. But that's a small issue.

I just did copycat Toko's ending and that was perhaps the shittiest bad ending i've ever seen. It's on par with sachi's bad ending from Grisaia in terrible writing. Not one lazy run over by vehicle, but two.. And that h scene... The route (if you can call it that) was just so bad.

So the question is, are any of the other bad endings worthwhile? Or are they just as silly as this one? 

 

And if someone haven't read it, be careful about the notebook. I met a certain someone and decided to check out the notebook, and that persons entry was probably the very last entry of the person, and that person was relevant to say the least. It was a huge spoiler  That was one mean bug.

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1 hour ago, Stormwolf said:

Started playing this, and i must say it's generally good. It does have some small scale issues where victims are almost always known to mc though, which makes everything seem less serious, and more silly and forced. But that's a small issue.

I just did copycat Toko's ending and that was perhaps the shittiest bad ending i've ever seen. It's on par with sachi's bad ending from Grisaia in terrible writing. Not one lazy run over by vehicle, but two.. And that h scene... The route (if you can call it that) was just so bad.

So the question is, are any of the other bad endings worthwhile? Or are they just as silly as this one? 

 

And if someone haven't read it, be careful about the notebook. I met a certain someone and decided to check out the notebook, and that persons entry was probably the very last entry of the person, and that person was relevant to say the least. It was a huge spoiler  That was one mean bug.

It's Multiple Route Mystery VN, each ending gives a piece of info for a better understanding of the plot (Specially the normal ends, they're worth seeing). Also Touko's bad end:

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Is the one that she's run over by a truck in the same fashion as her friend?

 

[Stormwolf]

20 minutes ago, SeniorBlitz said:

It's Multiple Route Mystery VN, each ending gives a piece of info for a better understanding of the plot (Specially the normal ends, they're worth seeing). Also Touko's bad end:

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Is the one that she's run over by a truck in the same fashion as her friend?

 

 

Yeah, i meant her route.

 

Another question. I find myself reading whole sections of already read lines. Is it safe to manually skip since auto skip doesn't work? Or do they ambush you with important changes during these?

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2 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

 

Yeah, i meant her route.

 

Another question. I find myself reading whole sections of already read lines. Is it safe to manually skip since auto skip doesn't work? Or do they ambush you with important changes during these?

The game doesn't skip lines that you didn't read. (Check the settings\confing option on the menu)

[Stormwolf]

It actually does. Sometimes it stops for a single line and sometimes i vividly remember each and every word, yet can't press that skip button :/

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

It actually does. Sometimes it stops for a single line and sometimes i vividly remember each and every word, yet can't press that skip button :/

That is sadlly inevitable, some copy pasted lines are together with new text, so for some reason it doesn't skip, all you can do is keep clicking.

[Stormwolf]

I bet the text sections have multiple versions (with and without changes) after different choices, hence the game treats it as unread text. Or something like that.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

I bet the text sections have multiple versions (with and without changes) after different choices, hence the game treats it as unread text. Or something like that.

U right mate.

[Silvz]

There is a problem with auto skipping in this game, but I don't recall if it has a solution.

But you're not loosing too much if you skip the game. The second game is even worst, because it does work, but you only need it to get some lines in the middle of the story.

Read Cartagra before KnS2 as there are many references in the story, as well as characters that are not in KnS1. (and actually matter for the story)

 

Btw, you're talking about the bad ending for that mean girl, right? I don't remember her name, but it is very early and she is one of the students in the school. If so, there are better endings indeed, and this first one is not as relevant as others. If you really don't want to read them all, I believe you can only read the normal end and the true end.

Edited November 28, 2017 by Silvz

[Guest]

Her name is Mizuhara Touko. Her bad end is told from her perspective.

Other Notable Bad Ends:

Orihime Bad End: Explains more about the prostitution rig

Nurse Akazaki Bad End: GUD FORESHADOWING SHEESH

[Nandemonai]

And some of the other bad ends are with likeable characters.  They're enjoyable in a way because of that.  But Touko #2 is, uh, not.  And I get the feeling her ending is supposed be messed up, weird, and unappealing.  They kind of succeeded a little too well, I think.

[Stormwolf]

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I dont know. I feel the toko thing is a tad bit forced. Especially with protag having lost a lover once already and the gameplay elements it has. I know she has a bad ending as i was spoiled of that a long time ago, and with the detective stuff and making right choices being important, i feel that kind of undermines the whole vn. Getting desperate and finally getting it right and save her in the end feels way more appropriate after all her bad ends, and not just "sweet now ill get the true ending, this will be good!" Only to "nope, just another bad end"

 

Edited November 29, 2017 by Stormwolf

[Stormwolf]

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Just finished it and sure enough, i'm not sure about the point of Toko. Especially why they made her the main girl as a romantic partner. Well, not because she died, but because it felt out of place, especially when Reiji didn't seem particularly broken up after she disappeared. I certainly don't know why he decided to go check out her history instead of searching for her..... That seemed quiiite silly considering their relationship, and the fact that he's found her alive in 2 endings, with one where she lived on without limbs. I was hoping that he would figure things out before it got to that point in the true route, but he just did the wrong things :/

Well, the vn certainly was entertaining and somewhat heartbreaking. I hope the second game keeps up the good pace

One prediction though. They will asspull Toko into the story again in the third game or perhaps one after that.

Edited November 29, 2017 by Stormwolf

[Silvz]

7 hours ago, Stormwolf said:

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Just finished it and sure enough, i'm not sure about the point of Toko. Especially why they made her the main girl as a romantic partner. Well, not because she died, but because it felt out of place, especially when Reiji didn't seem particularly broken up after she disappeared. I certainly don't know why he decided to go check out her history instead of searching for her..... That seemed quiiite silly considering their relationship, and the fact that he's found her alive in 2 endings, with one where she lived on without limbs. I was hoping that he would figure things out before it got to that point in the true route, but he just did the wrong things :/

Well, the vn certainly was entertaining and somewhat heartbreaking. I hope the second game keeps up the good pace

One prediction though. They will asspull Toko into the story again in the third game or perhaps one after that.

I may not remember everything clearly, as I read it a long time ago, but I'm almost sure that she is not

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considered dead in the first game, only disappeared. The true ending is after she looses her limbs, so no hopes here, unfortunatelly.

Toko is not the main focus in the second game, though, although her situation is closed in it.

 

[Stormwolf]

14 hours ago, Silvz said:

I may not remember everything clearly, as I read it a long time ago, but I'm almost sure that she is not

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considered dead in the first game, only disappeared. The true ending is after she looses her limbs, so no hopes here, unfortunatelly.

Toko is not the main focus in the second game, though, although her situation is closed in it.

 

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The thing is that i've been spoiled a long time ago, and thought i'd just give this vn a shot anyway, and i must say i've enjoyed the journey even though i know it's end. It's been all about Toko so far, with the other themes seemly important, but they've been pushed a bit back. The second game also ends on a Toko note with her ashes and that disgusting picture i think. What's left to make a third game of? Just hunting down the killer of his fiancee? That sounds a bit too thin of a plot and i bet that might be why it's taken so long. The game has been talking of reincarnations and what almost sounds like magic, so like i said, i bet they'll ass pull a reincarnation act or retcon the ending of the first and use some excuse that the girl in the photo was a lookalike, and not the real girl.

I wonder if i'm the only one who think the plot is just a tad too cruel. A innocent girl just searching for herself and ends up limbless and pregnant in some freakshow's bed during her pregnancy. Not to mention protag who lost his wife and seemingly fell in love again, just to lose her in a just as sick fashion, if not even more sick. I'll be honest, if he'll just end up depressed and not trying or finding something or someone who'll keep him together then i probably won't even bother continuing.