SanadaShadow Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 WE HAVE A NEW PERSON NAMED SUGURE?! Wait, I'm a subordinate? Quote
NhKPaNdA Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Jun is my new second-best friend! <3 Then who is your old second-best friend ? Did they get demoted to third-best friend ? Quote
Jun Inoue Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Then who is your old second-best friend ? Did they get demoted to third-best friend ? I killed him and devoured his heart. Quote
Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 I killed him and devoured his heart. My dick didn't have a heart. O.o Quote
Jun Inoue Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 My dick didn't have a heart. O.o Neither do you, but I devoured it all the same. ;D Quote
SanadaShadow Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Okay, so what's up with Loliconia? is it like Comicon or something? Quote
Jun Inoue Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Okay, so what's up with Loliconia? is it like Comicon or something? It's a secret world, open only to those no longer blinded by the lies of the world. Nahichun 1 Quote
Ouraibaa Hjyuraa Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Okay, so what's up with Loliconia? is it like Comicon or something? It's Jun's imaginary paradise kingdom of underage girls. Quote
colekitt Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 no one said it was imaginary we just have to beleive Quote
Jun Inoue Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 no one said it was imaginary we just have to beleive It sounds imaginary to those lacking in faith. Quote
tankhedgehog Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 ...Insulting VNs in a site dedicated to them... You got real guts. I like that.  If you were talking about my comment to monmon then you obviously haven't been here long enough to know the kind of fucked up VNs he reads. There are many veterans of this thread who have been traumatized for life from carelessly following his vndb links. So rather than insulting VNs, I was insulting monmon's taste in them. Well, I suppose I wasn't even doing that, I was simply stating his taste in them, because I think even he agrees that some of the stuff he reads is fucked up  I wouldn't be translating Amairo Islenauts if I didn't like VNs... lol Quote
SanadaShadow Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 ...Taking jokes too seriously. Though I have to agree; There are horrendous amounts of hentai VN in there. Quote
Seath Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 If you were talking about my comment to monmon then you obviously haven't been here long enough to know the kind of fucked up VNs he reads. There are many veterans of this thread who have been traumatized for life from carelessly following his vndb links. Was it really so long ago......?  It doesn't feel like it has been, but frequent interaction probably has me recalling more recent imagery.  At this point his rather unique tastes have more or less become something of an endearing quality I suppose.  I would say that Skype helps to desensitize you, but if there is anything I have learned, it is that Mon is never to be underestimated..... Quote
rapid motion Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Soooo.... can somebdy add me to the skype? (r4p1dm0t10n) Quote
Jun Inoue Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Soooo.... can somebdy add me to the skype? (r4p1dm0t10n) I will when I get home in 20 mins, if noone has yet. Quote
KuronX Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 I think that saying something is badly made just because you don't enjoy it isn't necessarily a fair thing to do. Everyone has different definitions of what makes something "good." If everyone agreed on what made something good, then we would only have that, which would get boring fairly quickly. I personally am not a huge fan of shounen, but with it's large amount of fans it has to be doing something right. I'm all for insulting the pretentious fanfags, but I think calling an entire demographics opinion of something "wrong" based on how you view it is, honestly, quite arrogant. Quote
Jun Inoue Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 I think that saying something is badly made just because you don't enjoy it isn't necessarily a fair thing to do. Everyone has different definitions of what makes something "good." If everyone agreed on what made something good, then we would only have that, which would get boring fairly quickly. I personally am not a huge fan of shounen, but with it's large amount of fans it has to be doing something right. I'm all for insulting the pretentious fanfags, but I think calling an entire demographics opinion of something "wrong" based on how you view it is, honestly, quite arrogant. You would need smth to sustain that argument. This sort of talk is basically saying "if enough people belive X, it has to be true." And that's quite senseless.  If you read what I wrote about SAO, the main reason it has so many fanboys, and so many haters, is because SAO is about MMORPGs, a theme that's rarely touched in anime, which made thousands of people ignore every flaw the anime had because, hey, MMORPG anime! And this had the obvious consequence of another many thousands of people being horrified at the fanboyism that an anime filled with inconsequence, bad planning, shallow characters and misogyny (which is saying a lot, considering that anime tends to always be a bit misogynistic)  This, and mainly this, is why there are so many fanboys giving it 9s and 10s, why there are so many haters who would give it a negative score if they could, and why there are so many people don't give it a deserved 6-7, and just go "meh" about the first two groups fights. Quote
greenshadow622 Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 You would need smth to sustain that argument. This sort of talk is basically saying "if enough people belive X, it has to be true." And that's quite senseless. This right here would be valid if the topic was science. Unfortunately, this is not science, but very much all about subjective opinion. Does SAO have its flaws? Of course it does. I'm a huge SAO fan, but I'm more than willing to admit that. But with manga and anime and the like, if enough people believe it to be good, then from the goal of the creators, that's mission accomplished, and it is good, no matter what the content may be. rapid motion 1 Quote
Jun Inoue Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 This right here would be valid if the topic was science. Unfortunately, this is not science, but very much all about subjective opinion. Does SAO have its flaws? Of course it does. I'm a huge SAO fan, but I'm more than willing to admit that. But with manga and anime and the like, if enough people believe it to be good, then from the goal of the creators, that's mission accomplished, and it is good, no matter what the content may be. Right there you defined 'popular', not 'good', which might indeed be the goal of the authors. But there's no such thing as complete subjectivity, the number of people that rally behind a manga or anime make it popular or an underdog, not good or bad. Quote
ragnell Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 You would need smth to sustain that argument. This sort of talk is basically saying "if enough people belive X, it has to be true." And that's quite senseless. Â If you read what I wrote about SAO, the main reason it has so many fanboys, and so many haters, is because SAO is about MMORPGs, a theme that's rarely touched in anime, which made thousands of people ignore every flaw the anime had because, hey, MMORPG anime! And this had the obvious consequence of another many thousands of people being horrified at the fanboyism that an anime filled with inconsequence, bad planning, shallow characters and misogyny (which is saying a lot, considering that anime tends to always be a bit misogynistic) Â This, and mainly this, is why there are so many fanboys giving it 9s and 10s, why there are so many haters who would give it a negative score if they could, and why there are so many people don't give it a deserved 6-7, and just go "meh" about the first two groups fights. I'm in the "eh, it was a 6-7" crowd, but mysogyny? really? That's quite the misuse of that word. If anything, anime have a tendency to be philogynistic. Quote
Jun Inoue Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 I'm in the "eh, it was a 6-7" crowd, but mysogyny? really? That's quite the misuse of that word. If anything, anime have a tendency to be philogynistic. The female characters in SAO exist only and uniquely so that Kirito can gather them in his harem, as seen by how they fall for him without real reason, and that during the first season each girl has one, and only one, completely worthless episode where we see that they can't do crap without Kirito, and then they are not seen again. That right there is objectification of women, and denigration of women, two of the most common cases of misogyny. Â I think you are getting confused with a bad case of "oh no, I do not think that women are inferior to men, it's just that I'm such an old-fashioned gentleman!" Quote
KuronX Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 And other shows aren't like that? That's the case for nearly all anime. Those are also side characters. They don't have much depth because the story isn't about them. And by the same definition of "rallying behind something doesn't make it good," the opposite is true as well. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. Your misogynistic argument doesn't hold water unless you apply it to most anime, in which case, to you, those would all be bad. And anyways, the new heroine in season two is pretty badass and doesn't really seem to be the weak "damsel in distress" that the others were. Give some other reasons for WHY you think the show is bad. As of now you're just begging the question. It's bad because it's bad. tankhedgehog 1 Quote
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