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Theres no way to insert spoilee tag on my phone.

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Does it count that Shirou was the only master to kill a servant or two? I don't remember if kirie killed assassin? And shirou beat kirie the last boss?

No, it doesn't.

 

Shirou didn't "beat" Kirei; Kirei was already dead. He was just still walking. He would have died in a few mins regardless of Shirou, who was also dying.

And Shirou should have died killing the Servants he did. Hell, the only reason he survives anything is either because Avalon saves him or someone else does. He should have died 10 times over throughout the series, even without all the bad ends.

Shirou is only ever worth a damn at the end of the routes, and that's pretty much only because of Archer leakage.

 

I disagree Saber was much stronger when kiritsugu was her master vs Shirou being her master

 

and crunchy it depends on what route you're talking about

Of course she was stronger, but she's the same Servant. The Servants in Stay Night are canonically stronger than the ones in Zero, as stated by Nasu.

Medea is stronger than Gilles de Rais, Medusa is stronger than Iskander, Archer would have a fair chance against Gilgamesh, Kojiro is stronger than Hassan, Stay Night Hassan was stronger than Hassan, Cu is stronger than Diarmuid, Saber is the same in both, and don't even get me started on Berserker.

 

 

And it doesn't really matter which route.

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okay i'm out of school and work for the next couple days so i guess i'll be spending that time here. woo fuwa all the time everytime!

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I really doubt that rider stands any chance against Iskandar. I mean at all. Forgetting natural skill, Iskandar has a much stronger Noble Phantasm. I do think Lance is stronger than Diarmuid. Kojiro could kill all assassins from zero with ease. 

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I really hope they come back. Either way, I luckily got an invite to a private torrent site the day before it happened by coincidence. There are still quite a few things I like to use TPB for, so it not coming back would hurt my torrenting for sure

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I really doubt that rider stands any chance against Iskandar. I mean at all. Forgetting natural skill, Iskandar has a much stronger Noble Phantasm. I do think Lance is stronger than Diarmuid. Kojiro could kill all assassins from zero with ease. 

 

I don't know if it's stronger or not.

You do remember that Rider possesses Bellerophon. She also has her Mystic Eyes of Petrification.

I think those can withstand Iskandar's NP, if not, beat it.

Not to mention the fact that it consumes a lot of magical energy, whereas Bellerophon and Medusa's Mystic Eyes use a small amount when compared to that Noble Phantasm.

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I don't know if it's stronger or not.

You do remember that Rider possesses Bellerophon. She also has her Mystic Eyes of Petrification.

I think those can withstand Iskandar's NP, if not, beat it.

Not to mention the fact that it consumes a lot of magical energy, whereas Bellerophon and Medusa's Mystic Eyes use a small amount when compared to that Noble Phantasm.

I will say that I forgot about the stead. I only remembered the blood fort. With that I would say about even. Iskandar has midair combat but it is much slower than rider's but then again he also has like 1k soldiers.

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I will say that I forgot about the stead. I only remembered the blood fort. With that I would say about even. Iskandar has midair combat but it is much slower than rider's but then again he also has like 1k soldiers.

 

Yeah. He can manifest the thousands of men who've sworn loyalty to him, even after becoming a Heroic Spirit themselves. Iskandar does indeed have that chariot, but using it while his Reality Marble is active will be very draining. The attacks launched by his chariot, Gordius Wheel, and Bellerophon's charge is at about the same rank. I think Gordius Wheel's speed pales in comparison to the Pegasus', so Medusa can still beat him at that. Along with her Mystic Eyes, she's still going to be a hard opponent. It petrifies opponents which have a rank of C or lower in Mana, which is coincidentally the rank of Rider in terms of Mana. It could still not happen though, since they're Servants. The parameters don't really determine the outcome of a battle.

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Whether you like it or not, Fate is part of Nasuverse (Nasu's multi-universe), and he sets the rules. Besides, he's the one who created the characters and overall scenario for Zero. Gen just wrote a few of the personalities, made the specific character interactions, filled up the timeslot, and put everything into LN format, He really didn't have any influence on the strength of the character's.

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Whether you like it or not, Fate is part of Nasuverse (Nasu's multi-universe), and he sets the rules. Besides, he's the one who created the characters and overall scenario for Zero. Gen just wrote a few of the personalities, made the specific character interactions, filled up the timeslot, and put everything into LN format, He really didn't have any influence on the strength of the character's.

 

She does. She is a better fighter than Iskander, her Bloodfort might be the perfect counter to his main Noble Phantasm, and her own main Noble Phantasm is pretty darn strong, too.

Let's be honest, Iskander wasn't much of a fighter. He was damn awesome, but he didn't do very much in terms of fighting.

 

Lol, slowpoke.

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