Where do I buy/Download these VNs?

[Liphisbus]

My first post here, If I did post in the wrong section or something, I'm sorry xd

So I was looking for some Eroges in VNDB and found these 2 games that were made by PIL... but the problem is, I can't find them anywhere. I did see that PIL has a site but It was not there for sale, so I wanted to know if anyone here know where to download/ buy it (The game seems like a abandonware so I'm pretty sure I don't need to buy, but still). The 2 games that I'm talking about are:

Angie's Adventures in Decadence-land

PILcaSEX

I'm looking for the Windows version because I want to translate one of them in the future, so I think it will be more easy to translate, I might be wrong about it, because it could be more difficult than ROMHacking, but who knows...

Thanks!

[tahu157]

First one has a few copies on Amazon Japan although they aren't cheap. https://www.amazon.co.jp/堕落の国のアンジー-狂界の牝奴隷達/dp/B004UCWI1I

Can't find anything for the second.

[Liphisbus]

3 minutes ago, tahu157 said:

First one has a few copies on Amazon Japan although they aren't cheap. https://www.amazon.co.jp/堕落の国のアンジー-狂界の牝奴隷達/dp/B004UCWI1I

Can't find anything for the second.

Yeah, $317 is not a affordable price for me right now... It seems that I will never play these games xD

Thanks for helping, anyway