monkeysrumble Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Welcome to the forums! If you are thinking about reading Little Busters you totally should. It's a really fun read. Quote
DimDito Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Seeing lots of Grisaia, which is neat since it caught my eye from the artwork and synopsis on VNDB. I think I will most definitely give it a read. YES. Please do. Also welcome to the forums~ Since Clannad didn't intrigue you very much I suppose Key's work won't do you any good. See if you like dark gore! i.e. Saya no Uta or Kara no Shoujo. I'll give you something as a fellow Fate enthusiast; Osu osu welcome n hve fun enjoy a pun When a hospital runs out of maternity nurses they have a mid-wife crisis. ...Ken, I commend you for being able to make puns even in the midst of a heavy headache. Quote
Treima Posted May 21, 2014 Author Posted May 21, 2014 Welcome on the forum Enjoy your stay ! And if you didn't like Clannad, this means you have no soul ! Love it god dammit ! To elaborate, I didn't think it was "bad", and it succeeded in its prime directive. I cried. A lot. Like, a lot a lot. I just really, really disliked the character designs. Everybody in CLANNAD looks roughly half their stated age. I also just felt that the routes themselves were really hit or miss. Some were really sweet, lovely, and tightly written (Kotomi, Yukine), some were just OK or undersold an interesting heroine by saddling her with a mediocre story (Kyou, Tomoyo), and some were so mind-bogglingly dull and lacking in dramatic tension I wanted to rip my hair out (MEI, Koumura, the entire first half of After Story). Also, the deus ex machina of the true ending felt really forced. What was the Illusionary World? If the Girl was Ushio, why was Tomoya seeing her in his dreams years before she was born? Since Ushio was born successfully and Fuko found what appears to be the Girl in the hospital parking lot, does that mean there are now two Ushios running around Hikarizaka? I would have really liked to spend less time running around with Sunohara's brat sister and more time getting some explanation of exactly WTF happened in the last ten minutes. I'm not going to give up on reading Key's works since they are so universally acclaimed. I'm going to try Little Busters! since the character designs in that one look a little more mature. Quote
Chocolat Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 D-Do you make a cake for each new member or do you jusy find pictures? Welcome to the forums! Hope you enjoy your time here. I just find pictures, but each one is selected with love~ Quote
Guest Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) To elaborate, I didn't think it was "bad", and it succeeded in its prime directive. I cried. A lot. Like, a lot a lot. I just really, really disliked the character designs. Everybody in CLANNAD looks roughly half their stated age. I also just felt that the routes themselves were really hit or miss. Some were really sweet, lovely, and tightly written (Kotomi, Yukine), some were just OK or undersold an interesting heroine by saddling her with a mediocre story (Kyou, Tomoyo), and some were so mind-bogglingly dull and lacking in dramatic tension I wanted to rip my hair out (MEI, Koumura, the entire first half of After Story). Also, the deus ex machina of the true ending felt really forced. What was the Illusionary World? If the Girl was Ushio, why was Tomoya seeing her in his dreams years before she was born? Since Ushio was born successfully and Fuko found what appears to be the Girl in the hospital parking lot, does that mean there are now two Ushios? I would have really liked to spend less time running around with Sunohara's brat sister and more time getting some explanation of exactly WTF happened in the last ten minutes. I'm not going to give up on reading Key's works since they are so universally acclaimed. I'm going to try Little Busters! since the character designs in that one look a little more mature. I loved Clannad for it's simplicity. Everything is so ordinary, yet the game manages to create something unique. It's the story of a game with some familly problems who meets some girls who also have their own problems (And pretty classic problems in the 2D world). I don't think it's fair to judge Clannad looking at it's story. I think it has to be judged regarding its story telling. The way everything is presented, the way we are asked to understand the weight that every chracaters has to carry. It sometimes isn't much, it sometimes is, would it be scars from the past or wounds from the heart. But that VN had a wonderful impact on me and I want to defend it It's not over dramatic either, and that's something I think is unmatched. Whereas many VNs just put some moe girls in a pot mix it with big problems and magicaly create an average VN. As for the ending, I though these pauses beetween the chapters added some kind of poetry to the whole thing. It also allows a happy end after crying our hearts out. Well that's my personnal opinion, but since you detailed yours, doing the same is the least I can do Edited May 21, 2014 by Guest Quote
Treima Posted May 21, 2014 Author Posted May 21, 2014 I loved Clannad for it's simplicity. Everything is so ordinary, yet the game manages to create something unique. It's the story of a game with some familly problems who meets some girls who also have their own problems (And pretty classic problems in the 2D world). I don't think it's fair to judge Clannad looking at it's story. I think it has to be judged regarding its story telling. The way everything is presented, the way we are asked to understand the weight that every chracaters has to carry. It sometimes isn't much, it sometimes is, would it be scars from the past or wounds from the heart. But that VN had a wonderful impact on me and I want to defend it It's not over dramatic either, and that's something I think is unmatched. Whereas many VNs just put some moe girls in a pot mix it with big problems and magicaly create an average VN. As for the ending, I though these pauses beetween the chapters added some kind of poetry to the whole thing. It also allows a happy end after crying our hearts out. Well that's my personnal opinion, but since you detailed yours, doing the same is the least I can do I understand, and I definitely respect where you're coming from. But I felt even the way the story was told could have used some refinement. It seemed to me like they had about 30 hours of good stories to tell, and overextended themselves by stretching it into a 60 hour VN. As a result, we get meaningless interactions taking up thousands of lines of text. I wanted to bash my head into the desk when the VN insisted I needed to read about every single day of Tomoya's boring electrician job in painstaking detail. That was honestly the lowest point of the whole novel for me. I get it, Key. He got a job. He works hard every day. This is established. Unless he's about to have a plot-impacting workplace accident, would you kindly move on!? Again, I appreciate you sharing your opinion. Maybe I just wasn't in the right mindset to enjoy it, coming into it having read three dark VNs with very high-stakes scenarios (Muv Luv Alternative, G-Senjou, Steins;Gate). Quote
Kurisu-Chan Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I think that you prefer story driven VN to comedy. Treima 1 Quote
Treima Posted May 21, 2014 Author Posted May 21, 2014 I think that you prefer story driven VN to comedy. You may be right. I think you just realized something about me that I hadn't even realized myself. It would explain my aversion to most comedy films, at least. Thank you. Quote
Kurisu-Chan Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Sometimes you need the help of a human, orc. Don't look at me like that! Quote
Darkshine Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Welcome to fuwanovel. Hope you find the forums to your liking and please enjoy the carnage. See ya around and here's a moe. Treima 1 Quote
Flutterz Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 Welcome to the forums! Hope you enjoy your stay! Have a moe: Quote
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