First time reading Fate Stay

[Tatsujin]

Seriously? 

I was under the assumption that the Last Episode was in the original version of the game...

Heaven's Feel and Last Episode are not part of the original game.

 

To the OP, I've uploaded the newest version which contains more scenes, higher resolution and whatever extras the PS Vita had. It's all translated. Link. Waku-Waku is incomplete and inconsistent with the original version. He skipped some scenes from the original. I don't know what version Fuwa has here but regardless, avoid Waku-Waku and get the one inside the link I provided.

[Mr Poltroon]

Heaven's Feel and Last Episode are not part of the original game.

While it is true that the Last Episode is exclusive to Realta Nua, Heaven's Feel was one of the three original routes. Unless you can prove otherwise, that is what my research has led me to believe.

[DawnWolf]

Heavens Feel best feels

[madvanced]

Heaven's Feel and Last Episode are not part of the original game.

 

To the OP, I've uploaded the newest version which contains more scenes, higher resolution and whatever extras the PS Vita had. It's all translated. Link. Waku-Waku is incomplete and inconsistent with the original version. He skipped some scenes from the original. I don't know what version Fuwa has here but regardless, avoid Waku-Waku and get the one inside the link I provided.

[JustThisOne]

To the last episode I don't know since I haven't read it, but to F/HA the canon is HF although it takes somethings for granted that had happened in Fate and UBW.

 

 

In F/HA it follows none of the routes, it is more of an amalgamation of all the routes in which no fighting ever occurred (I would get into the details but then it will just get confusing). HF is no more "canon" than Fate and UBW. Actually in TYPE-MOON all routes are equally canon, even bad endings are canon. 

[Tatsujin]

While it is true that the Last Episode is exclusive to Realta Nua, Heaven's Feel was one of the three original routes. Unless you can prove otherwise, that is what my research has led me to believe.

You are correct. Heaven's Feel is part of the release. My information was actually wrong.

 

Aside from that. I want to reaffirm what I have been mentioning about the new fan release of Fate/Stay Night Realta Nua, which is the link I provided in my previous post. VNDB has the information listed and they are all facts. The release we have here on Fuwa should be updated with the uncensored H-scenes - regardless of that, it is vastly inferior to the new release. Do we have the new Fate/Stay Night on Fuwa yet? It's been out for few months now and it is working 100%.

[Kosakyun]

In F/HA it follows none of the routes, it is more of an amalgamation of all the routes in which no fighting ever occurred (I would get into the details but then it will just get confusing). HF is no more "canon" than Fate and UBW. Actually in TYPE-MOON all routes are equally canon, even bad endings are canon. 

 

About what's canon and what's not... I would agree that every route is equally canon in their routes. And everything does happen too. For some reason, the protagonist (Shiki, Shirou, etc.) always has the girls fawning over him. Though in sequels, no commitment can be seen between the protagonist and his heroines, aside from the fact that the heroines show obvious affection toward the protagonist. But of course, it is always hinted that something happened between them. I am always utterly confused as to what route the games follow when having sequels or when having different adaptations. But that's what's fun about it.

 

Everything happened, and that's why everything is what it is right now. At least, that's what Nasu makes it appear to be.

[madvanced]

In F/HA it follows none of the routes, it is more of an amalgamation of all the routes in which no fighting ever occurred (I would get into the details but then it will just get confusing). HF is no more "canon" than Fate and UBW. Actually in TYPE-MOON all routes are equally canon, even bad endings are canon. 

But In F/HA in particular it takes a strange way of making canon, because F/HA does begin in a day of HF(5th iirc) and takes somethings that happened in Fate and UBW for granted, so the point that HF was the main canon isn't wrong you know, I even said before that it used events from UBW and Fate, I never said hat it used HF as canon exclusively.

[Dark Ariel7]

Into UBW and liking it. Im almost at the end. The sex scene with Rin sucks though. She was so much better in the one with Saber oddly enough. Also overall I liked her better in Fate than in her own route. Weird...

[Darkshine]

Tohsaka Rin is the best girl!   As for my favorite route I can't really choose, kinda stuck on UBW or HF. 

[Asterisk]

Into UBW and liking it. Im almost at the end. The sex scene with Rin sucks though. She was so much better in the one with Saber oddly enough. Also overall I liked her better in Fate than in her own route. Weird...

[Dark Ariel7]

Nah. I like fate more. They are about equal only because I feel the characters were better in fate. Plus I really dont like that last time they beat Gilgamesh with the sheath but this time they are attempting reality marble. Gilgamesh if preactiaclly invincible but there are 2 things that can beat him? Plus like I mentioned earlier I lover the Rin from Fate more. I wish there was a Rin/Saber route. I have never had a Harem ending. I always wish there was one.

[Kosakyun]

Saber in Fate was my favorite character, with Rin in general coming in a close second.  I'll insist until I die that UBW was the better route, though.  I mean...dat revelation about Archer, the introduction and explanation of reality marbles, and Unlimited Blade Works itself...so epic.  Fate was more about romance while UBW was more about action, so that's probably why I liked UBW more.  That said, I'm a sucker for a good romance story, so even I find it a little strange that I like UBW more than Fate.

 

Unfortunately, I don't think Type-Moon puts in harem ends for their VNs, at least that I know of.  I've only read F/sn and heard Tsukihime talked about (it's on my wait list), so I wouldn't take my word on it.

 

I don't think their visual novels have a harem route, since their visual novels focus more on a character per route, where they expand their story. This in turn reveals more about the universe of the game, and more reasons as to why everything is happening and why they happened.

 

I think Heaven's Feel was better than Unlimited Blade Works. That Kotomine vs Shirou fight. My eyes. My ears. They felt orgasm that they weren't supposed to feel. They eyegasmed and eargasmed.

I simply loved the route. I loved every route, but Heaven's Feel won the bread for me. I mean, it lives up to its name. That feel at the end.

[FinalChaos]

I think Heaven's Feel was better than Unlimited Blade Works. That Kotomine vs Shirou fight. My eyes. My ears. They felt orgasm that they weren't supposed to feel. They eyegasmed and eargasmed.

I simply loved the route. I loved every route, but Heaven's Feel won the bread for me. I mean, it lives up to its name. That feel at the end.

[Kosakyun]

Kotomine vs Shirou was definitely epic, but for me Archer vs Shirou was equally great. UBW also had Gilgamesh vs Shirou which again was damn good. The scales tip towards UBW for me.

[FinalChaos]

I liked the imminent catastrophe that was going to happen in Heaven's Feel. It felt kind of apocalyptic, and so I loved every bit of it. Every bit where the protagonists looked for solutions to solve their current problems.

[Dark Ariel7]

Just finished UBW. I managed to spoil myself by reading the description of Archer for the Fate hollow in VNDB. Way to ruin it for myself.

I liked it. I also like that they at least managed to make Rin good at the end. She got back to her normal personality instead of that insecure thing she had in the middle. Hate those bastards for what they did to Illya though. She got zero part in this route. Just sad back story. 

Apparently Lancers are just destined to be epic character betrayed by their own masters. Zero and fate both.

[Kosakyun]

Just finished UBW. I managed to spoil myself by reading the description of Archer for the Fate hollow in VNDB. Way to ruin it for myself.

I liked it. I also like that they at least managed to make Rin good at the end. She got back to her normal personality instead of that insecure thing she had in the middle. Hate those bastards for what they did to Illya though. She got zero part in this route. Just sad back story. 

Apparently Lancers are just destined to be epic character betrayed by their own masters. Zero and fate both.

 

I totally agree with this. Lancer's run in the 5th Holy Grail War was just... sad.

I guess that's where he gets his meme as the guy who always dies and is more or less comedic relief.

Go read Heaven's Feel. It's great.

[Kenshin_sama]

Hate those bastards for what they did to Illya though. She got zero part in this route. Just sad back story.

More incentive to read HF! Although I still understand if you don't want to.

[Dark Ariel7]

God dammit! I hate dark stuff but Im reading it anyways. I cant let Illya end like that! Plus I do want to know what the heck the extra content is.

[Dark Ariel7]

It's worth it, just trust me.  Heaven's Feel is as close to an Illya route as you're going to get.  It's quite dark, but it's not so dark that it'll emotionally scar you for life.  If you can handle stuff like Law and Order: SVU you'll be fine.  Hell, I have genetic depression and it didn't make me curl up into the fetal position and start sobbing.  It's disturbing, but only because it's supposed to be.  Most VNs have some disturbing content if they have bad ends, anyway.

I actually almost never hit a bad end. I have only hit 2 so far and 1 I saw coming but wanted to try anyways. The other was out of nowhere.

[Dark Ariel7]

I'm not exaggerating when I say that almost every single bad end in F/sn results in Shirou's death.  I found them amusing because I disliked his character, and a lot of them seemed to be random.  It was like a little game where I could have him die by doing stupid things  xD

 

I kinda like bad ends now, though.  They usually seem to add something to the story, at least the ones I've seen so far have.

The 2 I saw where from UBW and were actually not helpful to the story at all.

[Dark Ariel7]

Yeah, F/sn's aren't really important at all.  I was mostly referring to the bad ends of other VNs.

Good. I thought I was maybe  missing something or something

[Kosakyun]

Bad ends in F/SN tend to not be seen coming.

For example, in the first battle against Berserker, how the heck should you know what to do?

Dodge? Run away? I have no idea.

And most especially bad end 13, if I remember it correctly.

It adds to the story such that by not forging a strong bond with your servant, Saber, she becomes lulled in by Kirei's words about the Grail, ultimately killing you in order to get the Grail. Well, she was tricked sooooo.

It mostly happens when you choose the wrong place to go, or the wrong move in a fight. Or if you simply didn't establish a good enough relationship with the characters. That's as far as the bad ends can get in being related to the story.

[Dark Ariel7]

Bad ends in F/SN tend to not be seen coming.

For example, in the first battle against Berserker, how the heck should you know what to do?

Dodge? Run away? I have no idea.

And most especially bad end 13, if I remember it correctly.

It adds to the story such that by not forging a strong bond with your servant, Saber, she becomes lulled in by Kirei's words about the Grail, ultimately killing you in order to get the Grail. Well, she was tricked sooooo.

It mostly happens when you choose the wrong place to go, or the wrong move in a fight. Or if you simply didn't establish a good enough relationship with the characters. That's as far as the bad ends can get in being related to the story.

You are the main character. Running is almost never the right choice. But yeah I almost exclusively go by the principle of what I would do in that anime world. It works beautifully.