fun2novel Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 While I long since left FSN behind (it is generally ranked between fifty-second and sixtieth place in my heart), I do still love the universe it is based in. UBW is indeed the best of the three routes... but Heavens Feel is something special too (even if I do prefer the bad ends for some reason). Honestly, Ilya was indeed the biggest sticking point for me. I wanted to save her so badly I could have punched Nasu in the sternum. THIS is in your 60th place in your heart? I can't imagine what kind of epic is in your 10th or even 30th place in your heart, lol. Btw, I'm reading F/SN too, almost done with the Fate route. Quote
Clephas Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Shirou is my reason... if it weren't for Shirou and the Fate path, it would be from eighth to fifteenth, lol. Quote
FinalChaos Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I liked UBW the most followed by Fate. I didnt like HF because of how shirou's attitude completely changes in that route. He turns in a person who only thinks about Sakura and not about all his ideals which were so heavily emphasized in UBW. Besides that HF definitely has a good plot and clears up a lot of loose ends about the working of Holy Grail War. Quote
Vokoca Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Heaven's Feel was my favourite route because of the different, darker atmosphere. The stuff I enjoy the most from Nasu is the dark, cruel world and interesting philosophy, not really the fight scenes themselves, or obsessive stat comparisons. The Fate route is my least favourite, mainly because of Saber and Shirou being annoying in their own ways, and the plot not getting interesting up until the last twist at the end. Quote
ff80c38 Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Just read the Last Episode yesterday and I have to say, I really liked F/SN. It has a lot of flaws but I can mostly overlook them - except Shirou, he really is annoying in at least the half of the entire VN. Damn, I don't want to know how often I yelled at my monitor in Fate route. After accepting his 'stupidity' as plot device he was at least bearable... Fate wasn't that action packed and mostly linear but the overall atmosphere and Saber were really enjoyable. And that ending, I'm a sucker for these. UBW, what should I say? Great plot, greater Rin, best route overall IMHO. HF: Large parts were mostly mediocre because I couldn't like Sakura or Shirou in that route. The more epic plot and finale though compensated for that. LE: d'awwww, Saber. Also, what is about the art of F/SN? I don't know what there is to complain about except maybe the resolution. Quote
madvanced Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I liked UBW the most followed by Fate. I didnt like HF because of how shirou's attitude completely changes in that route. He turns in a person who only thinks about Sakura and not about all his ideals which were so heavily emphasized in UBW. Besides that HF definitely has a good plot and clears up a lot of loose ends about the working of Holy Grail War. That was the whole charm of HF, Shirou's growth and change. Although it's darker tone was a nice change of pace vs fate and ubw. ubw is still my favorite route though. Quote
skelebunny Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Type-Moon annoys me with the boring slice-of-life parts... But somehow, that makes the best parts when the action starts even better. Quote
FinalChaos Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 That was the whole charm of HF, Shirou's growth and change. Although it's darker tone was a nice change of pace vs fate and ubw. ubw is still my favorite route though. I don't have any problem with the darker tone. But personally I didn't like the change in shirou, I doubt that it can be called as growth it was more like his personality completely changed. In Fate, the faults in his ideals were shown. In UBW, he overcame those faults and accepted his fate. In HF though suddenly the ideals he had been focusing through the last 2 routes were suddenly cast aside, which I didnt like. Quote
madvanced Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I don't have any problem with the darker tone. But personally I didn't like the change in shirou, I doubt that it can be called as growth it was more like his personality completely changed. In Fate, the faults in his ideals were shown. In UBW, he overcame those faults and accepted his fate. In HF though suddenly the ideals he had been focusing through the last 2 routes were suddenly cast aside, which I didnt like. In UBW his ideals weren't really overcome, in fact he could still become Archer in UBW, however in HF is where he truly understands that he cannot save everyone and that if he truly cares for someone that he must protect, he must give his everything to that person even going as far to harm others. Also his ideal, heroic spirit Emyia, is more likely to come from HF than any other route, Nasu said so himself, although for that to happen he has to choose to kill sakura, or something similar to that. It also coincides with the Ilyia route that was supposed to branch of in that choice. Quote
FinalChaos Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 In UBW his ideals weren't really overcome, in fact he could still become Archer in UBW, however in HF is where he truly understands that he cannot save everyone and that if he truly cares for someone that he must protect, he must give his everything to that person even going as far to harm others. Also his ideal, heroic spirit Emyia, is more likely to come from HF than any other route, Nasu said so himself, although for that to happen he has to choose to kill sakura, or something similar to that. It also coincides with the Ilyia route that was supposed to branch of in that choice. Yeah, but I still didnt like the sudden change of attitude which made the last two routes seem meaningless. Quote
Dark Ariel7 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Posted September 18, 2014 I will probably stop of UBW and not do HF. Quote
Quad Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Illya's my favorite character too, but I'm glad she didn't have a route. I liked her because they weren't constantly trying to make her relationship with Shirou a sexual thing, like it was with everyone else. Quote
phersu Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I will probably stop of UBW and not do HF. Got to finish it now. Plus, there is a Realta Nua patch for the PC version, just google it. It adds some minor changes, new scenes.....ect. I'd go ahead and finish it as is, though, then maybe replay with Realta Nua. The sex scenes are in the newer Realta Nua patches for PC. Quote
Vokoca Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I will probably stop of UBW and not do HF. Illya is one of the main characters of HF, though - it's the closest to her route you're going to get. Quote
Kenshin_sama Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I will probably stop of UBW and not do HF.Don't do that. You should at least try to read it until you get tired of it. Quote
Dark Ariel7 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 I hate really dark stuff though. I can just feel how bad HF will get. I still remember what happened in Fate Zero. It makes it hard to even look Sakura in the eye. Quote
Dark Ariel7 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 The fate route can go to hell. Why does Saber have to die?!? That is so wrong. Quote
Dark Ariel7 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 I can't say anything without spoiling things, but if that pisses you off that much, just watch the Realta Nua content. I'd advocate for unlocking it through 100% completion, but if you're lazy just search for it on YouTube. That's what I did. And it was mentioned that said content is in the fuwa version? Quote
Dark Ariel7 Posted September 19, 2014 Author Posted September 19, 2014 I am 50/50 on weather I should put in the extra effort. Quote
ff80c38 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 I unlocked the Last Episode two days ago and go now for 100% completion of the Tiger Dojos, so you only need to get all 5 endings. I used the latest patch, don't know whether the Fuwa version is the same. I think you will like the Last Episode but as already said, it's hard to describe it without spoiling. I would reccommend you to finish UBW first, then decide if you want more F/SN or not. You will want more F/SN. HF is worthwhile. Yes, it is darker but HF felt somehow like the 'true route' and had less pacing issues IIRC. It just felt mature in contrast to the other two routes. You also get tons of new information about the F/SN universe, especially concerning the Holy Grail. Quote
Life Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Go through HF. You get to find out what the 'grail' is and other stuff. Quote
FinalChaos Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 I will probably stop of UBW and not do HF. You could do that but the thing with HF is that most of the explanation about the Holy Grail is done there and without reading that route there would be plenty of loose ends. Quote
Kosakyun Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Not reading HF? That's absurd! That's my favorite route. It also has the most number of bad ends. You'll have fun going through it without a guide. I died a few times. And also... most number of H-scenes. If you don't enjoy Heaven's Feel, I don't even know what to say man. I just enjoyed it that much. Also, it's needed for Last Episode. Is it just me, or does Fate pale in comparison with the other two routes? Quote
crunchytaco Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 I cried tears of happiness in the Last Ending. I've never cried out of happiness for anything before in real life. I still cry when I take a peek at it on youtube every once in a while. It was that touching to me. When it plays, I turn into mush like this: ff80c38 1 Quote
Vokoca Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Is it just me, or does Fate pale in comparison with the other two routes? Almost too much, if you ask me. Quote
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