Kosakyun Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 In the UBW ep - 00, We see Gilgamesh talking to Sakura, which I now remembered was also there in the vn. So what was that about I mean why was Gilgamesh talking to sakura, am I forgettingg something ? Quote
FinalChaos Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Yeah that one. It's near 30min in the episode. Quote
Kosakyun Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Yeah that one. It's near 30min in the episode. Â I can't remember exactly what happened in the VN, but from what I can remember it wasn't a good meeting. And Shirou saw Gilgamesh leaving the house... if I'm not mistaken. He sees it both in Fate and UBW, yes? I freaking forgot. Quote
FinalChaos Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 I can't remember exactly what happened in the VN, but from what I can remember it wasn't a good meeting. And Shirou saw Gilgamesh leaving the house... if I'm not mistaken. He sees it both in Fate and UBW, yes? I freaking forgot. Yeah, I remember that Sakura was kinda stressed because of Gilgamesh meeting her but I can't really remember anything else. Quote
Kosakyun Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Yeah, I remember that Sakura was kinda stressed because of Gilgamesh meeting her but I can't really remember anything else. Â That's exactly what I remember. Also remembering how Shirou asked about it, and Sakura simply brushed off the question with a half-assed answer. This is what happens when we get older, folks. Â Completely irrelevant. I'm 16. Quote
FinalChaos Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 That's exactly what I remember. Also remembering how Shirou asked about it, and Sakura simply brushed off the question with a half-assed answer. This is what happens when we get older, folks. Â Completely irrelevant. I'm 16. Quote
Dark Ariel7 Posted October 5, 2014 Author Posted October 5, 2014 I dont like the other routes because of H or romance per say. I like the character interactions better there. I also dont like knowing that the story centers around such a boring character in HF. I wil most likely thought it out but I truly do not see why people keep calling this the best route. I was far mare emotionally hooked in sabers route. Quote
FinalChaos Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 I dont like the other routes because of H or romance per say. I like the character interactions better there. I also dont like knowing that the story centers around such a boring character in HF. I wil most likely thought it out but I truly do not see why people keep calling this the best route. I was far mare emotionally hooked in sabers route. Sakura is not a boring character, but that does not mean she is likeable either. I didn't like HF as I was against the attitude of Shirou that he would sacrifice everything for Sakura. Like let the world get fucked or kill Sakura, Shirou: I want Sakura screw the world. That was a major reason I chose the option to kill her every time the choices came up, well I also wanted to see all the bad ends but killing Sakura off was fun. I actually liked Sakura more in Fate and UBW route than in HF truthfully. Quote
Kosakyun Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 I dont like the other routes because of H or romance per say. I like the character interactions better there. I also dont like knowing that the story centers around such a boring character in HF. I wil most likely thought it out but I truly do not see why people keep calling this the best route. I was far mare emotionally hooked in sabers route.  I really liked Sakura. I might be biased when I said that Heaven's Feel was the best route. But aren't we all biased at something? And I was far more intrigued at the plot concerning the origins of the Grail and how it turned out after many years of existing in the world, though I don't know if I can say the same for the Great Grail.  What I can say is that throughout the years that the Grail has existed as the prize of the war, different things had happened that lead to the current situation of Shirou and the others in the Fifth Holy Grail War in Heaven's Feel. It also encompasses the reason why Sakura had become what she is.  Heaven's Feel did it for me, especially the Shadow part. I loved how the servants would rise up and fight again after being devoured by the Shadow. But Sakura as a villain by herself was completely inferior to Kotomine Kirei, being the main antagonist and all in Fate. She is also lackluster when paired up with Gilgamesh, who actually was bad due to his personality, not because of some absurd reason. I liked the fact that Sakura sucked as a villain though. Due to her still retaining a part of her consciousness while being the Shadow, she actually would hesitate or talk to herself regarding the situations she faced in the route. But it would be twisted by the overflowing corruption of the Grail though. It is for that reason that Sakura is completely insane in her route. Well, not completely insane. But you get my point.  Also, Zouken a shit.  The highlight of the route, being the corruption of the Grail and all, really reeled me in. I thought it was interesting that the corruption in the Grail was being shaped into something because of the twisted wishes of humans. Or should I say... Hmmm. I can't find the right words to say what I want to say. But I can relate with Kirei's desire to see the offspring of the corruption ---- Avenger, the 8th class. The class that wasn't meant to be. The corruption in physical form. Also, I was already interested in the Grail due to the past routes showing the malice being manipulated by those who are forming the Grail. For example, Kirei manipulating the evils in the Grail. I don't know. I'm just that interested in the Grail.  Also, I loved Sakura's H-scenes in her route. She was hot. Goddamn I'd tap Sakura anytime. I'd tap her if I didn't have knowledge concerning the worm inside her. I would hate to have the thought of that worm while I'm ramming blissfully inside Sakura's magical transfer port. My god. Too hot. Sakura best body. Sakura best scenes. Sakura too hot for me. That's why she's best girl. Of course, that's my reason.  That's obviously a joke. That wasn't my reason why Sakura is best girl. But everything else is true. Quote
Kosakyun Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Sakura best girl.  Her role in HF only made me like her even more, to be honest.  I loved the route because of how it defied the standards. It did not go in the 'right' direction, and that was what made it so interesting and enjoyable. My only issue with the route was the oddly happy true ending, but otherwise it was definitely my favourite from the entire VN. Quote
FinalChaos Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 KFag, I know its just your love for Sakura's h-scenes, no I mean body personality. Quote
Kosakyun Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 KFag, I know its just your love for Sakura's h-scenes, no I mean body personality. Quote
FinalChaos Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Yeah and about Fate/Extra, are Fate/hollow and Fate/extra and other Fate vns good ? FSN is supposed to be the best but how good are the others ? Quote
Kosakyun Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Yeah and about Fate/Extra, are Fate/hollow and Fate/extra and other Fate vns good ? FSN is supposed to be the best but how good are the others ?  Fate/Extra is good. It's set in a parallel universe where the Holy Grail War's a bit more technological in aspects, and the Holy Grail is the Moon Cell. I haven't read through CCC, but Fate/Extra was a nice game. Try it if you like Nasu works.  I haven't played through Fate/Hollow, but since it focuses on Avenger and Bazett, it might be good. It might also be a way to expand on the questions left by the original visual novel. Questions about Avenger, how he came to be, what the corruption entering the Grail in the Third Holy Grail War was, and all that stuff. I'm planning to read once they release a fully edited batch. It's currently in beta testing as of now. Quote
FinalChaos Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Fate/Extra is good. It's set in a parallel universe where the Holy Grail War's a bit more technological in aspects, and the Holy Grail is the Moon Cell. I haven't read through CCC, but Fate/Extra was a nice game. Try it if you like Nasu works. Â I haven't played through Fate/Hollow, but since it focuses on Avenger and Bazett, it might be good. It might also be a way to expand on the questions left by the original visual novel. Questions about Avenger, how he came to be, what the corruption entering the Grail in the Third Holy Grail War was, and all that stuff. I'm planning to read once they release a fully edited batch. It's currently in beta testing as of now. I'll check them out at some point of time I guess. My next type-moon vn will be Tsukihime, then I might try extra or hollow depending on what reviews hollow gets. Quote
madvanced Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 I'll check them out at some point of time I guess. My next type-moon vn will be Tsukihime, then I might try extra or hollow depending on what reviews hollow gets. Good luck on Tskihime, even with an aging art style it's still an amazing read. although for me the best girls' routes(for me ) are only playable later in the game. Quote
Dark Ariel7 Posted October 6, 2014 Author Posted October 6, 2014 HF is in hiatus. Reading Fruit of Grisaria instead. Great protag. Quote
reyaes Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Basically everything, because as far as I'm concerned, it will reference everything from F/SN. And besides, Avenger is there. He's literally a core story element in Heaven's Feel. Â Well, that explains my confusion. Quote
Kosakyun Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Good luck on Tskihime, even with an aging art style it's still an amazing read. although for me the best girls' routes(for me ) are only playable later in the game. Quote
Kosakyun Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Kohaku and Akiha best girls, I just can't pick between the two.  I've picked from the two a long time ago. Akiha just can't match Kohaku in my eyes. Hisui and Arcueid fight for second place. I least like Ciel. I don't know why.  Akiha's just... ugh. I just didn't like her normal end. Bloodsucking demon. God. I don't like imagining that ending. Shiki's being tormented by his desire to let Akiha continue living. UGH. Quote
madvanced Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I've picked from the two a long time ago. Akiha just can't match Kohaku in my eyes. Hisui and Arcueid fight for second place. I least like Ciel. I don't know why. Â Akiha's just... ugh. I just didn't like her normal end. Bloodsucking demon. God. I don't like imagining that ending. Shiki's being tormented by his desire to let Akiha continue living. UGH. I can't say that I liked either of her ends all that much, but as an heroine she is awesome, just like with Rin Nasu is capable of creating the best tsunderes that just aren't that simple "it's not like I like you or anything" stereotype, they actually can display emotions and shit. Quote
FinalChaos Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Considering that those spoiler-tags are meant for me, I should restrain myself.   I already opened the first spoiler, don't know who kohaku is so no harm done. Quote
Kosakyun Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I can't say that I liked either of her ends all that much, but as an heroine she is awesome, just like with Rin Nasu is capable of creating the best tsunderes that just aren't that simple "it's not like I like you or anything" stereotype, they actually can display emotions and shit. Quote
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