Funyarinpa Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 12 hours ago, Asimmacovski said: I haven't read Muv-Luv. *runs away* 12 hours ago, Lucius said: Neither have I. *stays and embrace the seething hatred* ... .. In all seriousness, I plan to someday, but it's one of those lengthy VNs I'm putting off till a more convenient time. 9 hours ago, Kawasumi said: confession: I have no idea if im ever gonna read muv-luv at this point. Not worth it. Play Umineko with that time instead. ML is disappointing Lucius 1 Quote
Cidra Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 Confession: I gave up on "If My Heart Had Wings" because I kept falling asleep on every scene. I wonder if I should give it another try. Confession: I've only fallen in love once, that's probably why I read so many romance VNs. Because I yearn for that love one day. (I'm so pathetic...I just want to curl up in a hole and die saying this one.)% Quote
Flutterz Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 13 minutes ago, Cidra said: Confession: I've only fallen in love once, that's probably why I read so many romance VNs. Because I yearn for that love one day. (I'm so pathetic...I just want to curl up in a hole and die saying this one.)% You just described 90% of Fuwanovel Cidra, atorq, rainsismyfav and 1 other 4 Quote
Asimmacovski Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Funyarinpa said: Not worth it. Play Umineko with that time instead. ML is disappointing I had a great time while reading the steam version of Umineko no Naku Koro ni (70 hours or so) a few weeks ago, now waiting for Chiru. Hope it doesn't take that long. Quote
Mkilbride Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Funyarinpa said: Not worth it. Play Umineko with that time instead. ML is disappointing Disagree. Umineko is disappointing. I read all of them. All fucking 8 of them. I did it in a month. Around the 3rd or 4th one, I wanted to quit, but I had already invested such an amount of time...I HAD to finish it...one of the biggest letdowns of my entire life with Umineko, much like Higurashi. He can write a story, he can write characters, but he's shite at endings, that Ryuushiki guy. Muv Luv + Unlimited + Alternative is definitely worth it, and better. As for this thread... Confession: I think Steins;gate is massively overrated and incredibly mediocre. I've read both the VN and watched the anime afterwards, and there's more plot holes in that than in any other movie, VN, book, anime, manga, ect. Quote
Kenshin_sama Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 5 hours ago, Zenophilious said: Go back quite a ways in this thread and you can read us talking about relationships and how crappy we are at starting them. Did I ever tell you the story about how I let a Chinese guy convince me to say "I love you" to the girl I had a crush on? Good times~ Quote
abrazilrep Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 (boring) confession: I thought the only thing Fuwa had was the forums. I didn't know about the homepage. Quote
Kurisu-Chan Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 19 hours ago, Funyarinpa said: Not worth it. Play Umineko with that time instead. ML is disappointing I'm calling Erdogan. 17 hours ago, Mkilbride said: Disagree. Umineko is disappointing. I read all of them. All fucking 8 of them. I did it in a month. Around the 3rd or 4th one, I wanted to quit, but I had already invested such an amount of time...I HAD to finish it...one of the biggest letdowns of my entire life with Umineko, much like Higurashi. He can write a story, he can write characters, but he's shite at endings, that Ryuushiki guy. Muv Luv + Unlimited + Alternative is definitely worth it, and better. As for this thread... Confession: I think Steins;gate is massively overrated and incredibly mediocre. I've read both the VN and watched the anime afterwards, and there's more plot holes in that than in any other movie, VN, book, anime, manga, ect. I do disagree with you (how surprising). Plot twist : you can't trigger me with a reddit-level answer. Quote
Bolverk Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 Been reading 10+ hours each day for over a week now on this jp web novel. Hours just fly and I forget everything. I try to stop and do something else. But I can't manage to do it. Can't get into anything else than reading more. I am starting to lose interest now. But holy shit. I've experienced this with gaming when I was younger. But not to this level with reading. Quote
Eclipsed Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 I love how this is the only thing I get dinged on for plagiarism on my Film essay There's only so many ways you can say things when you're reviewing the same film Quote
SCG_1037 Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Eclipsed said: I love how this is the only thing I get dinged on for plagiarism on my Film essay There's only so many ways you can say things when you're reviewing the same film Please Eclipsed , we all know that coincidences can not happen. Quote
SCG_1037 Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Eclipsed said: I AM INNOCENT Jokes aside , how the hell did you get accused of plagiarism just because of that , it would be the same as i accused a somebody of plagiarism , because in a 10 pages text , he wrote a line that was similar to some other student Quote
Fred the Barber Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 8 hours ago, Eclipsed said: I love how this is the only thing I get dinged on for plagiarism on my Film essay There's only so many ways you can say things when you're reviewing the same film Objection! There were no fewer than fifty-three producers listed in the opening credits! <Insert evidence here> Isn't it much more likely to be a case of plagiarism than of you both making exactly the same highly unlikely mistake? Quote
Flutterz Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 I'm assuming the plagiarization checker works the same way for Eclipsed as it does in my uni, as in it checks against a crapton of other papers and finds similar chunks, but if you have a couple of small chunks similar to other papers that are trivial, nobody is actually going to accuse you of plagiarizing. Quote
Eclipsed Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 Ye that little tidbit was just a 2% originality thing, we only get really ganked if it goes 20%+ Quote
Funyarinpa Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 On 8/5/2016 at 10:48 AM, Mkilbride said: Muv Luv + Unlimited + Alternative is definitely worth it, and better [than Umineko]. Have you mixed up the meanings of "shit" and "water" as a child, because that's the only way such a shit taste could have come into existence. Quote
Mkilbride Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 5 hours ago, Funyarinpa said: Have you mixed up the meanings of "shit" and "water" as a child, because that's the only way such a shit taste could have come into existence. I dunno, have you read Umineko? As I said, one of my greatest disappointments, same with Higurashi. Legendary VNs, so maybe my expectations were high, but...the guy can create an amazing start to as story, but his middle drags, and his endings are shit. Quote
Lucius Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 16 minutes ago, Mkilbride said: I dunno, have you read Umineko? As I said, one of my greatest disappointments, same with Higurashi. Legendary VNs, so maybe my expectations were high, but...the guy can create an amazing start to as story, but his middle drags, and his endings are shit. True, but Muv-Luv started out as a long-ass harem, and leads to a story that's pretty much common in VNs nowadays (appreciate what you have before it's gone), especially among Key VNs. Oh yeah, and Steins;Gate does the same story in a shorter (and therefore, more effective and practical) format. At least Ryukishi07 gets points for creativity, albeit convoluted. He also gets points for being able to create suspense very well. I thought Episode 5 was a borefest at first, but then around the middle of it, "someone" gets the upper hand and things became exciting again from the surprising turn of events. Quote
Mkilbride Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 Are you crazy? I know it's subjective, but to compare it to Key? Really? Key who hasn't made a new VN since like 1995? My issue is he uses plot twists too much. People give M.Night Shamalayn shit for that, but he can use 8-16 plot twists a VN and people drool over it. I dunno, I enjoyed the VNs...but I felt like they shouldn't have been anywhere near as long. As for Steins;gate, my issue is with how there's so many plot holes. It's Time Travel, sure, they'll exist, but Steins;gate gets tons of praise, I see in reviews and websites, for "Doing Time-Travel smart", and all I can think of is there's like 7-8 plotholes just on the surface level, let along if you dig deeper. As for Muv Luv, yeah, it starts as a harem, but ends up going into one of the best VNS to date, being satisfying all around. If anything, Umineko, and Higurashi, start off at that point of the potential of being "One of the best", but then devolve into "But wait, there's more!" Not saying I regret reading them, they were fun, and I got some great music out of them, but I think ryuushiki or whatever his name is needs an Editor. He's like George Lucas when he got divorced and his wife left him, no one was there to tell him "No George, that's not a good idea." Same thing here. Quote
Lucius Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 17 minutes ago, Mkilbride said: Are you crazy? I know it's subjective, but to compare it to Key? Really? Key who hasn't made a new VN since like 1995? My issue is he uses plot twists too much. People give M.Night Shamalayn shit for that, but he can use 8-16 plot twists a VN and people drool over it. I dunno, I enjoyed the VNs...but I felt like they shouldn't have been anywhere near as long. As for Steins;gate, my issue is with how there's so many plot holes. It's Time Travel, sure, they'll exist, but Steins;gate gets tons of praise, I see in reviews and websites, for "Doing Time-Travel smart", and all I can think of is there's like 7-8 plotholes just on the surface level, let along if you dig deeper. As for Muv Luv, yeah, it starts as a harem, but ends up going into one of the best VNS to date, being satisfying all around. If anything, Umineko, and Higurashi, start off at that point of the potential of being "One of the best", but then devolve into "But wait, there's more!" Not saying I regret reading them, they were fun, and I got some great music out of them, but I think ryuushiki or whatever his name is needs an Editor. He's like George Lucas when he got divorced and his wife left him, no one was there to tell him "No George, that's not a good idea." Same thing here. The way I read your statement, it seems like your opinion is completely subjective as well. You don't like the crazy twists, but some people like me actually enjoy exaggerated stuff like that. It even has a term for it: hyperbole. A lot of people actually enjoy hyperbole, so yes, I could call your statement "crazy" as much as you did, even though it's "subjective", as you said. If anything, the VN doesn't have enough plot-twists, making a lot of the moments boring af because it drags on and on with monologuing. And are YOU crazy? Comparing Ryukishi07 to M. Night Shamalavan or whatever the fuck his name is? One of the worst directors in existence? Yeah, you're the one tripping, brah, not me. M. Night's twists make no fucking sense. At least Ryukishi07's twists have some kind of coherence to them, referencing real world logic and history as opposed to M. Night's ass-pulls. So no, people don't just 'drool' over Ryukishi07's stories for no reason. I'm not a blind fanboy who doesn't see the flaws of his productions (hell, Ryukishi07's VNs are not even among my top 10 favorite VN, let alone any of my top favorite lists), but I could at least appreciate them enough to see the clear difference between someone like him and a hack like M. Night Shamalabutan. Even James Cameron is a better director than M. Night - and that guy supported Terminator: Genisys! I referenced Steins;Gate not because I love it. Hell, I don't even like it that much either. I mentioned it because it has a very similar story as what Muv-Luv set out to tell, so all that hype around how Muv-Luv deconstructed the harem genre isn't all that amazing in hindsight. School Days deconstructed harem too, just to toss in another example of "someone else also did the same shit". Same with Key's titles like Clannad, Angel Beats!, and Little Busters. All of them rehashed the same story of "appreciate what you have in life" to death. Hell, it's become a cliche among many anime. So what's new, Muv-Luv? Why should I bother with you when you're whoring the same virus around? Quote
Lucius Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, Kiriririri said: Confession: バカバカだねー Great insight, バカ. Quote
Mkilbride Posted August 7, 2016 Posted August 7, 2016 10 hours ago, Lucius said: The way I read your statement, it seems like your opinion is completely subjective as well. You don't like the crazy twists, but some people like me actually enjoy exaggerated stuff like that. It even has a term for it: hyperbole. A lot of people actually enjoy hyperbole, so yes, I could call your statement "crazy" as much as you did, even though it's "subjective", as you said. If anything, the VN doesn't have enough plot-twists, making a lot of the moments boring af because it drags on and on with monologuing. And are YOU crazy? Comparing Ryukishi07 to M. Night Shamalavan or whatever the fuck his name is? One of the worst directors in existence? Yeah, you're the one tripping, brah, not me. M. Night's twists make no fucking sense. At least Ryukishi07's twists have some kind of coherence to them, referencing real world logic and history as opposed to M. Night's ass-pulls. So no, people don't just 'drool' over Ryukishi07's stories for no reason. I'm not a blind fanboy who doesn't see the flaws of his productions (hell, Ryukishi07's VNs are not even among my top 10 favorite VN, let alone any of my top favorite lists), but I could at least appreciate them enough to see the clear difference between someone like him and a hack like M. Night Shamalabutan. Even James Cameron is a better director than M. Night - and that guy supported Terminator: Genisys! I referenced Steins;Gate not because I love it. Hell, I don't even like it that much either. I mentioned it because it has a very similar story as what Muv-Luv set out to tell, so all that hype around how Muv-Luv deconstructed the harem genre isn't all that amazing in hindsight. School Days deconstructed harem too, just to toss in another example of "someone else also did the same shit". Same with Key's titles like Clannad, Angel Beats!, and Little Busters. All of them rehashed the same story of "appreciate what you have in life" to death. Hell, it's become a cliche among many anime. So what's new, Muv-Luv? Why should I bother with you when you're whoring the same virus around? Just going to say, yeah, I believe Ryushishi and M.night are very comparable in the way they write their characters and stories. Hell, even their real-life personal issues are similar. Quote
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