Vargas Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 For about the last 4-5 years I have been using this Intel core I5 2.5Ghz Windows 7 x64 laptop pc. Plan on getting a Desktop pc this year prob around 1k-2k just wondering what specs everyone thinks I should focus on. I Will probably get one with atleast 2Tb, Windows 8 since it works better now, atleast 3.5ghz-4ghz, 16 Gig ram, and Intel core I7. Idk what other things I should worry about since this pc will be for web design and future uses with Visual Novels, playing music/movies, and anything else. I use Newegg for the place I will be buying all the pc parts and building my own although I don't know how well people that sell there own custom build ones work. Some have got my interest but still not sure if thats what I plan on doing. If you have a good built pc let me know what I should do about this. I have been searching around what to do but still haven't made a decision on building my own pc or just buying one that's already made for people. Quote
Mr. Meogii Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 I think building your own would be much more fulfilling. It might also be cheaper or more for your money. Also think about getting a decent graphics card. Most games these days are so demanding. Quote
Fiddle Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 http://pcpartpicker.com/ has plenty of completed builds, as well as guides if necessary. I saw this one on the front page that's around your price range and desired specs, but there's plenty more to choose from here. Quote
Erogamer Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 I would build your own. It is cheaper and you get what you want. The specs you listed are plenty for what you want to do. If you want more video power, I would go with a gtx 960 or 970 (Go with EVGA). Quote
madvanced Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 When do you plan to get the computer? Right away or in a few weeks/months? Also don't go for a processor strictly for the Ghz it has, since frequency isn't everything, IPC(instructions per cycle) is what matters. I digress though. The time frame in which you plan to get your pc, may allow you to think about your Graphics card choice. Quote
Life Posted January 27, 2015 Posted January 27, 2015 The other three things I would worry about is getting a good power supply and a graphics card. Graphics card depends if you're planning to game often or not and stuff like that. Quote
cryofrzd Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 If building your own pc is the choice then my advice is to put the extra money on what's harder to extend later. That is not a huge ssd disks or massive amounts of ram etc. Buy those things when the need comes around, it will be cheaper and better by then. Invest in a good base, a good motherboard, processor and graphics card. For measuring processors as said before clock frequency is far from everything, later models can often perform more on fewer cycles I can link to instruction benchmarks but those are gibberish for laymen. Don't buy the previous version just cause you get better specs for less money. Intel has a biased compiler that is quite used by the industry that generates more efficient software on their processors, which gives them an overhand in benchmarks and software even though the processors are equally good. Quote
Jibril Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Building yourself is definitely cheaper, but if you have the money.... get yourself one of these monsters... Quote
Vargas Posted January 28, 2015 Author Posted January 28, 2015 http://pcpartpicker.com/ has plenty of completed builds, as well as guides if necessary. I saw this one on the front page that's around your price range and desired specs, but there's plenty more to choose from here. Ty Fiddle And everyone else that helped me choose what to do for getting a new pc. Will start building it before this summer for new visual novels Quote
edwd2 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I would say that's an overkill budget unless you do some other hardware demanding tasks. If you can wait, Skylake and AMD's 300 series are launching this year too. In general, go for an H97/C226 platform + E3-1231/41/46 V3, 2x 8GB, 250GB SSD + 2x 2TB HDD, if not, go a step higher and get an X99 + i7-4820K/E5-2630 V3 + 2x 8GB DDR4. My entry level workstation was built with a $700 budget for RTL Design and OpenCL computing purposes. Quote
Clephas Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Windows 8 isn't really better, it is a lie. Wait for 10 or get 7. Really, it depends on what you want to do. If you are trying to cut initial costs, I'd suggest not getting such a large HDD, since 1tb externals are fairly cheap now. Quote
Blizzard884 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Well well well... This is a hard question. Definitely build your own!!! The first thing you have to decide on is exactly what you want to do. You mention VN's and design. Is that mean you won't be playing video games? If that is right then you can save decent money on the GPU. If you plan to play a lot of games go for at least GTX 770 or better, but if you plan only do a design, VN's, movies, etc... GTX 600 series will be enough. Also, if design you do includes a lot of rendering, etc... Definitely get RAM at least 32gb 1800MHz. The motherboard is very important!!! Personally, I recommend Asus. Sabertooth is one that will handle all, but if you are looking for a serious set up check some ROG from Asus. They are more expensive, but well worth the money. Make sure is same socket as the CPU of your choice. Intel i7 4770k is a super CPU that runs at 3.5GHz but you can also overclock it. (Only processors with "k" after number allow Overclocking) Note: Do not use a cooler that is supplied with the CPU. Get something decent like Corsair Hydro series H60 or H80i. Another important part is the PSU. Here definitely go for modular that will save you a lot of space and make your build nice and tidy. If you are looking for only one GPU 850Watts is more than enough, but if you want an SLI with two GPU's then you will need something like 1200Watts. HDD 2Tb is useless. Definitely go for configuration 240Gb SSD (HyperX 3k)+ 1TB HDD. Use SSD for your Windows, Photoshop, Cinema 4D, etc... and everything will be much faster. 1TB HDD use for Movies, games, pictures, etc... (I recommend WD Black. Is nice and fast) Windows: Do not get 8 or 8.1!!! Definitely go for Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit and wait at least a year before you install Windows 10. The last part is Case. Make sure that Case is big enough to accommodate all your desired hardware and also look cool. Well, I think this is it. Hope this help you or someone else get started and if you have any more info let me know. P.S. Stay away from AMD!!! They are not bad, but I don't like them!!! Quote
Ezeefreak Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Well well well... This is a hard question. Definitely build your own!!! The first thing you have to decide on is exactly what you want to do. You mention VN's and design. Is that mean you won't be playing video games? If that is right then you can save decent money on the GPU. If you plan to play a lot of games go for at least GTX 770 or better, but if you plan only do a design, VN's, movies, etc... GTX 600 series will be enough. Also, if design you do includes a lot of rendering, etc... Definitely get RAM at least 32gb 1800MHz. The motherboard is very important!!! Personally, I recommend Asus. Sabertooth is one that will handle all, but if you are looking for a serious set up check some ROG from Asus. They are more expensive, but well worth the money. Make sure is same socket as the CPU of your choice. Intel i7 4770k is a super CPU that runs at 3.5GHz but you can also overclock it. (Only processors with "k" after number allow Overclocking) Note: Do not use a cooler that is supplied with the CPU. Get something decent like Corsair Hydro series H60 or H80i. Another important part is the PSU. Here definitely go for modular that will save you a lot of space and make your build nice and tidy. If you are looking for only one GPU 850Watts is more than enough, but if you want an SLI with two GPU's then you will need something like 1200Watts. HDD 2Tb is useless. Definitely go for configuration 240Gb SSD (HyperX 3k)+ 1TB HDD. Use SSD for your Windows, Photoshop, Cinema 4D, etc... and everything will be much faster. 1TB HDD use for Movies, games, pictures, etc... (I recommend WD Black. Is nice and fast) Windows: Do not get 8 or 8.1!!! Definitely go for Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit and wait at least a year before you install Windows 10.The last part is Case. Make sure that Case is big enough to accommodate all your desired hardware and also look cool. Well, I think this is it. Hope this help you or someone else get started and if you have any more info let me know. P.S. Stay away from AMD!!! They are not bad, but I don't like them!!! I don't want to insult you, that's just my honest opinion. But you seems to be a victim of the marketing departments of the companies. Especially the Part about the motherboards and PSU's are incredible. If someone want a colorful mb with a lot of functions (the most of us) will never use then buy some of these. For the most a "normal" mb is enough, if it has the interfaces you need (USB 3.0, SATA, stuff like that). To the PSU, for a single GPU 500W are more than enough. Modular is nice if you want to pay a little bit more. More important is the efficiency (80Plus, gold, silver, ... label).A good 500W PSU (eg beQuiet) is far way better than a cheap 1000W one. And if you want to install win 8.1 and you can accept the GUI, just do it. It isn't as bad as the people make it. It's just different and if you're flexible you can handle it. Quote
Blizzard884 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I don't want to insult you, that's just my honest opinion. But you seems to be a victim of the marketing departments of the companies. Especially the Part about the motherboards and PSU's are incredible. If someone want a colorful mb with a lot of functions (the most of us) will never use then buy some of these. For the most a "normal" mb is enough, if it has the interfaces you need (USB 3.0, SATA, stuff like that). To the PSU, for a single GPU 500W are more than enough. Modular is nice if you want to pay a little bit more. More important is the efficiency (80Plus, gold, silver, ... label).A good 500W PSU (egbeQuiet) is far way better than a cheap 1000W one. And if you want to install win 8.1 and you can accept the GUI, just do it. It isn't as bad as the people make it. It's just different and if you're flexible you can handle it. Is not about marketing. In original post was budgeted 1-2k and in that what I write is best you can get... Personally, I have in my build all the parts I mention in my post and PC is overkill. Can run anything and anytime.... Also is my personal opinion on parts. If you wanna overclock CPU and GPU in the future, you will need a rig that can handle things. Asus motherboards are the best you can get and if your budget is 2k then why not to treat yourself to something good???? Modular PSU is great if you want your build to look nice cause there will not be cables hanging out everywhere. I don't want to argue. This is my opinions. In the end it depends on Vargas what he wants to use a PC for... Quote
Kendjin Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 i5 OC if you want a fast PC, i7 if you plan to do streaming as well. Consider getting a pre-OC bundle if you aren't up to overclocking. Since you are going for it. Get 16GB DDR3 or DDR4 (you'd need a mobo that supports it) SSD is cheap now, grab a nice 480GB, augment that with a large traditional HDD and you're covered. Personally prefer NVIDIA, GTX 980 is worth it if your budget covers it. Avoid the 970 due to NVIDIA coming out and stating it isn't as good as they claimed Consider a 4GB VRAM card, games are looking for 3+ to max out. Just some minor highlights to help. Quote
Ezeefreak Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Is not about marketing. In original post was budgeted 1-2k and in that what I write is best you can get... Personally, I have in my build all the parts I mention in my post and PC is overkill. Can run anything and anytime.... Also is my personal opinion on parts. If you wanna overclock CPU and GPU in the future, you will need a rig that can handle things. Asus motherboards are the best you can get and if your budget is 2k then why not to treat yourself to something good???? Modular PSU is great if you want your build to look nice cause there will not be cables hanging out everywhere. I don't want to argue. This is my opinions. In the end it depends on Vargas what he wants to use a PC for... That can I accept ... I just think buy a mb like a Sabertooth or an equivalent from another producer is just for nice colours and own pride... But you're right, if you want to spent up to 2k you can waste your money with stuff like that or spent it for actual performance. Quote
Blizzard884 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 That can I accept ... I just think buy a mb like a Sabertooth or an equivalent from another producer is just for nice colours and own pride... But you're right, if you want to spent up to 2k you can waste your money with stuff like that or spent it for actual performance. Are you saying that Sabertooth lacking performance? Because if that what you saying then I need to disagree. SB is high performance MB with quality pcb... Quote
Thomas Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Linus to the rescue, go and watch some of LinusTechTips videos on youtube he has many builds that is interesting. Are you saying that Sabertooth lacking performance? Because if that what you saying then I need to disagree. SB is high performance MB with quality pcb... I'm using a Sabertooth mb too, not regretting that, it's a very good mb nice features and good oc Quote
Ezeefreak Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Are you saying that Sabertooth lacking performance? Because if that what you saying then I need to disagree. SB is high performance MB with quality pcb... Thats not what I meant, but if you spent the extra amount of money in an other component you might get more performance out it. For example, if i spent 100+ $ on the cpu or gpu the performance boost might be bigger Quote
Blizzard884 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Thats not what I meant, but if you spent the extra amount of money in an other component you might get more performance out it. For example, if i spent 100+ $ on the cpu or gpu the performance boost might be bigger That is true, but with parts I mention before u won't need any more performance boost.... It will be overpowered already Quote
Ezeefreak Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 That is true, but with parts I mention before u won't need any more performance boost.... It will be overpowered already Thats true ... i'm still happy with my i5 2500k. But I'm not playing so much anymore. I think with 2k budget I would go for a LGA 2011-3 platform maybe a i7 5930k or something like that. Quote
Kendjin Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Its almost like this topic isn't helping Vargas with PC ideas >.> Quote
Lewycool Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Its almost like this topic isn't helping Vargas with PC ideas >.> Theres also a bug with the new GTX 970 http://youtu.be/e85aRCFH8gM?t=42m52s http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Build_a_PC Check this out Gives you some tips about building a PC If you're worried about compatibility issues use this http://www.logicalincrements.com/ It has price ranges and they're all compatible with each other ( By Rows. For example all the "Good" parts are 100% compatible with the other parts in "Good" ) Quote
Blizzard884 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Its almost like this topic isn't helping Vargas with PC ideas >.> Well I gave him idea and now is up to him do research and decide... Quote
Vargas Posted January 28, 2015 Author Posted January 28, 2015 Yes everyone's ideas did help me alot, ty for all the feedback such nice people is hard to find these days Quote
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