madvanced Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I don't think that it detracts from the enjoyment and/or experience you have from reading a VN. Rather by sharing thoughts about a VN and discussing them, figuring things that you maybe wouldn't on your own and comparing those to past VNs, makes it enjoyable. I mean you get to compare yourself with an older self of yours in terms of experience and values, the conflict of ideas can be great to drive you forward and seek more. Quote
Liquidacid Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 I find it odd people even bother with the rating systems on most sites anymore... even if you didn't have those people who troll vote, give everything a 1 or 10 or simply refuse to use the system right (like using 7 or 8 as "average" on a 1-10 system) it's still just a collection of completely random opinions with no context to them... rolling a 10 sided dice would give you an answer just as valid... lol Quote
AlexZandria Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 I find it odd people even bother with the rating systems on most sites anymore... even if you didn't have those people who troll vote, give everything a 1 or 10 or simply refuse to use the system right (like using 7 or 8 as "average" on a 1-10 system) it's still just a collection of completely random opinions with no context to them... rolling a 10 sided dice would give you an answer just as valid... lol Yo 7 is a perfectly fine 'average'. If you think about the game this way, if the game was totally completely, boringly average you wouldnt have finished it or even really picked it up in the first place. Out of the games you actually finished (because come on playing 10 minutes of a game isn't good enough to rate it even if you think it is the scum of the earth) it was a pretty 'average' game but you liked it more than a 5 or you would have never made it to the end to begin with. 7 or 8 might be your average because you know if the game was below a 7 in your eyes you probably wouldn't finish it. Most of the 6/5s in this case scenario would be stories you held onto because they were short, it fell off at the end because the resolve sucked, you went for 100% and realized that only 1 or 2 route were actually good, it was something you played when you were bored and didn't have access to another game, it was something highly rated as a game 'to make fun of' (like Sakura Spirit) so you played it because it was bad. If you're rating stuff less than a 4 or a 5 (other than the to make fin of category) either you will literally play any game from start to finish, you have really low standards, or the game really screwed up the ending. You just don't often play things start to finish that you think are 5 'average' or 4 'below aversge' you play things that are average for you and you'd like to think there are plenty of actual average games out there not just average by your standards of good games. Quote
Liquidacid Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Yo 7 is a perfectly fine 'average'. If you think about the game this way, if the game was totally completely, boringly average you wouldnt have finished it or even really picked it up in the first place. Out of the games you actually finished (because come on playing 10 minutes of a game isn't good enough to rate it even if you think it is the scum of the earth) it was a pretty 'average' game but you liked it more than a 5 or you would have never made it to the end to begin with. 7 or 8 might be your average because you know if the game was below a 7 in your eyes you probably wouldn't finish it. Most of the 6/5s in this case scenario would be stories you held onto because they were short, it fell off at the end because the resolve sucked, you went for 100% and realized that only 1 or 2 route were actually good, it was something you played when you were bored and didn't have access to another game, it was something highly rated as a game 'to make fun of' (like Sakura Spirit) so you played it because it was bad. If you're rating stuff less than a 4 or a 5 (other than the to make fin of category) either you will literally play any game from start to finish, you have really low standards, or the game really screwed up the ending. You just don't often play things start to finish that you think are 5 'average' or 4 'below aversge' you play things that are average for you and you'd like to think there are plenty of actual average games out there not just average by your standards of good games. That's not what I meant by using 7 as an average. That's just only playing through and rating games that you finish a 7+ because you're dropping anything that isn't what you consider "above average" and worth finishing, That's you having an average vote of 7 not you voting 7 as average. You would still be voting a 7 because you feel the game is above average instead of "boringly average" as you put it. What I'm talking about is playing through an entire game, feeling that that game is of average over all quality as a whole and still rating it a 7 because you've arbitrarily decided 7=average instead 5. Doing so completely defeats the point of a 1-10 rating system. If you found something average it should be rated around a 5 because that is how a 1-10 system works. When people start using it differently than 1= bad 5= average and 10 = masterpiece and start making up their own rules as to what score signifies what the whole thing becomes completely pointless. Go look at, say, MAL's rating system. A lot of people there think a rating of 7-8 means it's an 'average" quality show and anything under a 7 means it's horrible crap. That's not how a 1-10 scale works and because you have some people using it properly and some not the whole thing is skewed and inconstant. That also isn't even including those people who do things like spam/troll vote things up/down just because they are popular or vote anything and everything they enjoyed a 10 and everything else a 1 which again isn't how a 1-10 system is supposed to work. Most/a lot of people do complete games that are only "average" because by it's very definition the majority of them are average as that's what the term means. Like I said the scoring systems are almost all pointless since they are constantly used improperly and even if they weren't there is still the fact they are mostly unreliable because there is no context to it. At least with written reviews even if they are short, biased and stupid there is context there for you to notice that and then decide which to pay attention to and which to ignore. There is none with the number rating system on most sites Honestly tho I don't see why a score would have an effect on someone's enjoyment. Even if all the systems were being used correctly and consistently they are still just a collection of other random people's opinions. No matter how much other people loved/hated something it really shouldn't change how you felt about it. Tho I do understand why someone might get mad or upset when something they love is rated poorly or the opposite but that's an entirely separate matter. If you loved say. FS/N and a bunch of people told you it was shit (rated it low) it might bother you but it shouldn't actually make you enjoy it less. Quote
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