BobJones2 Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I just have to get this off my chest. I haven't completed the game yet so maybe these issues will be explained later on but I'm in the middle of Yume's route and some things just REALLY irks me. First off, Taiga. First he lusted after a middle school girl even though he's already at least in his mid 20s and once she left him, he went after a grade schooler. No I don't care what her actual age is, she looks like a loli and she quacks like a loli, she's a loli. Pepophilia is strong in the genes indeed. Fine, he likes little girls; I could accept it if they had acted normally but the way they act is like that of a child predator, kinda creepy. 2nd. At first, I thought that Mare was waiting for You cuz of something to do with Yume but apparently not. Apparently, she specifically wanted to be his friend but why him? I know the MC is always super-special just cuz he's the MC but I'm gonna need a better reason than that. And why is Kaa-bou the "bridge" between the two? That thing didn't do squat, he may as well had not existed and nothing would had changed. 3nd and what bothers me the most. You switched from Yume to Mare so fast and without any sort of development or explanations. In fact, he was trying to move on Mare WHILE he was still trying to confess to Yume, which really confused me. And then the moment Yume rejected him, he immediatedly latched on to Mare, almost as if he wanted this development. If he's given up on Yume than why not give Asuho a chance? They had way more intimacy and development than with Mare. If he just prefers little girls than they could had at least given it more time to better transition from Yume to Mare. At the very least, give me some decent closure on You's decision to try to give up on Yume, don't just throw this shit on me from out of nowhere. Maybe later developments will better explain these things, like maybe You's attraction to Mare is supernaturally compelled, and Mare's backstory and Kaa-bou role will be explained in more depth. The reason why I'm ranting about this is cuz #3 bothers me so much that unless I know its gonna be addressed later on, I'm going to lose the will to finish the game. Quote
Eclipsed Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 10/10 rants, 100% agreed with everything you said, lolis are the spawn of satan and Mare sucks. You're pretty much done with the game if you're on Yume / Mare routes, so go ahead and finish it up. atorq 1 Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Really the best part of Hoshizora no Memoria is the initial three routes, the rest were quite the let down. You probably will not be happy with Yume's ending, but you will absolutely rage at Mare's ending..... if you can even call it an ending. Quote
Nimbus Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 The two last routes were indeed the low point of Hoshizora, they left a lot to be desired (apart from a certain character that may or may not be the protagonists sister who for humanities sake shall not be named). Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 The two last routes were indeed the low point of Hoshizora, they left a lot to be desired (apart from a certain character that may or may not be the protagonists sister who for humanities sake shall not be named). Quote
Eclipsed Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 ^ *cough* he was referring to *cough* CHINAMI *cough* Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Nope, sorry Chinami's route was pretty wasted also, if you honestly thought it was a good route..... you just have a suppressed incest fetish. Quote
Yuuko Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 10/10 rants, 100% agreed with everything you said, lolis are the spawn of satan and Mare sucks. You're pretty much done with the game if you're on Yume / Mare routes, so go ahead and finish it up. Eclipsed 1 Quote
Nimbus Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 ??? Neither Mare or Yume are familiarly related to the protagonist. Quote
Nosebleed Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Everything in Hoshizora happened through fate, don't think too hard about it. Well i agree Yume's route is quite the let down and a bit confusing and the transition from that to Mare is absurd, but hey no visual novel is perfect. Except Dual Phase, that's perfection in itself. Quote
Chuee Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I just have to get this off my chest. I haven't completed the game yet so maybe these issues will be explained later on but I'm in the middle of Yume's route and some things just REALLY irks me. First off, Taiga. First he lusted after a middle school girl even though he's already at least in his mid 20s and once she left him, he went after a grade schooler. No I don't care what her actual age is, she looks like a loli and she quacks like a loli, she's a loli. Pepophilia is strong in the genes indeed. Fine, he likes little girls; I could accept it if they had acted normally but the way they act is like that of a child predator, kinda creepy. 2nd. At first, I thought that Mare was waiting for You cuz of something to do with Yume but apparently not. Apparently, she specifically wanted to be his friend but why him? I know the MC is always super-special just cuz he's the MC but I'm gonna need a better reason than that. And why is Kaa-bou the "bridge" between the two? That thing didn't do squat, he may as well had not existed and nothing would had changed. 3nd and what bothers me the most. You switched from Yume to Mare so fast and without any sort of development or explanations. In fact, he was trying to move on Mare WHILE he was still trying to confess to Yume, which really confused me. And then the moment Yume rejected him, he immediatedly latched on to Mare, almost as if he wanted this development. If he's given up on Yume than why not give Asuho a chance? They had way more intimacy and development than with Mare. If he just prefers little girls than they could had at least given it more time to better transition from Yume to Mare. At the very least, give me some decent closure on You's decision to try to give up on Yume, don't just throw this shit on me from out of nowhere. Maybe later developments will better explain these things, like maybe You's attraction to Mare is supernaturally compelled, and Mare's backstory and Kaa-bou role will be explained in more depth. The reason why I'm ranting about this is cuz #3 bothers me so much that unless I know its gonna be addressed later on, I'm going to lose the will to finish the game. Kenshin_sama and LiquidShu 2 Quote
Satsuki Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Well...seem like I'm the only one who don't see anything wrong with Hoshimemo. Well i agree Yume's route is quite the let down and a bit confusing and the transition from that to Mare is absurd, but hey no visual novel is perfect. Except Dual Phase, that's perfection in itself. Quote
OriginalRen Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Star cancer! Also: Eternal Heart does such a good job on the Mare route. It isn't even about Mare, because fuck her. It's about Mirai's backstory (the Okaken club leader) and how his sister is the shrine maiden who is sent to kill Kosame in the 1st game. Such a good route. Mare is just h-scene material because the writers realize how pointless she is. Yeah Way 1 Quote
Yuuko Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Well...seem like I'm the only one who don't see anything wrong with Hoshimemo. Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 High five. Hoshimemo didn't have anything wrong with it. Yeah Way 1 Quote
Satsuki Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I remember the days in which I didn't look at anything analytically. Spy-Kids 3D was a masterpiece and the people who died terrible deaths weren't Christian enough, God I was a lovable child. Quote
Chuee Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Star cancer! Also: Eternal Heart does such a good job on the Mare route. It isn't even about Mare, because fuck her. It's about Mirai's backstory (the Okaken club leader) and how his sister is the shrine maiden who is sent to kill Kosame in the 1st game. Such a good route. Mare is just h-scene material because the writers realize how pointless she is. Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Well, we are players, not critics. Who care about analyzing and stuff? Quote
Eclipsed Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Oh for the record, my first post was troll. I enjoyed HoshiMemo from start to finish and agree w/ Satsuki's 'who cares about analyzing stuff' comment Quote
Nimbus Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Just because you analyse or critique something negative about a vn doesn't mean you didn't enjoy. Hoshizora is one of my favourite vns but When asked about it I won't hide the fact that it's got a couple of issues. Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Just because you analyse or critique something negative about a vn doesn't mean you didn't enjoy. Hoshizora is one of my favourite vns but When asked about it I won't hide the fact that it's got a couple of issues. Quote
Chuee Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Simply put if you think there is such a thing as a perfect fiction...... you are a moron. Quote
Kenshin_sama Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Nope, sorry Chinami's route was pretty wasted also, if you honestly thought it was a good route..... you just have a suppressed incest fetish. Quote
Thomas Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I can honestly say that i thoroughly enjoyed Hoshizora, sure it has its flaws but still a good read Quote
atorq Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 You bring up some interesting points but you fail to see the biggest fault. It has pink hair in a twin tail configuration and makes a sound that will haunt you for years. Also, Mare was a bit annoying at times and she definitely didn't need no route. Quote
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