starlessn1ght Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 People usually use the word charage to define something light-hearted. But I thought those were moeges. What's exactly a charage and what's exactly a moege? When I read the definitions of a charage, it says it focus on the characters, their development and interpersonal relationships. It doesn't say it's something light-hearted. But in the moege definition, we see that it's a VN that focus on moe and it has a light drama. Moe only applies to the characters, so I can't see how a VN can be driven entirely by it. To sum up things: Why do people link charage to light-hearted stories when this only applies to the definition of moege? And how can a VN be focused on moe? Can someone explain this to me? Quote
Nosebleed Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Charage is a broad term and it simply refers to a game centered around character interaction rather than an overarching plot which is something pretty standard in most visual novels. Moege is what you said is a feel-good cutesy type of game that primarly focuses on cute visuals and characters. Usually the two are intertwined because Moege is usually all centered around characters and charage is that as well, except charage doesn't imply the cutesy and light-hearted feel. starlessn1ght 1 Quote
starlessn1ght Posted May 4, 2015 Author Posted May 4, 2015 Charage is a broad term and it simply refers to a game centered around character interaction rather than an overarching plot which is something pretty standard in most visual novels. Moege is what you said is a feel-good cutesy type of game that primarly focuses on cute visuals and characters. Usually the two are intertwined because Moege is usually all centered around characters and charage is that as well, except charage doesn't imply the cutesy and light-hearted feel. So, the link between charage and light-hearted stories is a misconception? Quote
Nosebleed Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 So, the link between charage and light-hearted stories is a misconception? starlessn1ght and Chronopolis 2 Quote
Deep Blue Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 So now the difference between moege and nukige in terms of plot development? oh yeah there is none Quote
Nosebleed Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 So now the difference between moege and nukige in terms of plot develoment? oh yeah there is none Quote
Zodai Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Blasphemy, Dual Phase was a beautiful example on how one should love their sibling in a deep and meaningful way, you couldn't even fanthom a better plot than that. Quote
Satsuki Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 *Note, I have never played Dual Phase, and it's more than likely a nukige, but the point still stands. It's, with the story that can bring tear to your eyes about *censored* Quote
Eclipsed Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 I like charage and moege Cuz characters and moe ~~ I always thought of charage as a VN with story focusing on characters and their interactions; moege just focusing on creating a cute atmosphere via cute characters and cute visuals Naturally the two can overlap. Cute characters with cute story focusing on these cute characters and their cute interactions Charamoege KYAAA~ Quote
Deep Blue Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Blasphemy, Dual Phase was a beautiful example on how one should love their sibling in a deep and meaningful way, you couldn't even fanthom a better plot than that. I'm sorry, I was wrong all this time!! Even some nukige have plots like bible black ... Quote
astro Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Charage is full of chara and Moege is full of moe. Dur atorq and LinovaA 2 Quote
Chuee Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Dual Phase was a beautiful example on how one should love their sibling in a deep and meaningful way, you couldn't even fanthom a better plot than that. Quote
Deep Blue Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Yes, the plotline of two young sisters expressing their deep love for each other through inserting large phallic-shaped objects into each other in a grand scheme to enlarge their 'holes'. What a deep game. Quote
Chuee Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 I will send berserker to hunt you down for not understand his comment full of sarcasm Quote
Deep Blue Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 I understood his sarcasm which is why I replied with sarcasm of my own. Well actually I guess the line about the game being 'deep' is true in certain ways. Quote
Clephas Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Over 99% of all charage fit into the 'light-hearted moege' umbrella. There are exceptions, of course... but again, that is the one percent, lol. Quote
Pabloc Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Moege is basically a sub-genre of charages. There is no solid border - when a charage is especially light on drama, especially low on plot, is filled with moeblobs and it's sexual content is too low to qualify it as a nukige, it's a moege. I'd say it's a slightly derogatory term, but I guess that's up to personal tastes. Quote
starlessn1ght Posted May 5, 2015 Author Posted May 5, 2015 Over 99% of all charage fit into the 'light-hearted moege' umbrella. There are exceptions, of course... but again, that is the one percent, lol. So there are almost no charages that aren't moeges? Why even bother to create a name to a genre that applies only to 1%? Quote
Deep Blue Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 So there are almost no charages that aren't moeges? Why even bother to create a name to a genre that applies only to 1%? because moe Quote
Nosebleed Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 So there are almost no charages that aren't moeges? Why even bother to create a name to a genre that applies only to 1%? There's a distinct line between the two but they're not mutually exclusive, I guess that's the best way to put it. For example, Yume Miru Kusuri could be considered a charage due to the fact that the whole game is centered around the character interactions and the charater's relationship evolving rather than a big overarching plot. But that game is far from being moe or cutesy. Quote
Satsuki Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 So there are almost no charages that aren't moeges? Why even bother to create a name to a genre that applies only to 1%? This is kinda a problem of "A cat is an animal, but an animal is not a cat". Quote
astro Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 This is kinda a problem of "A cat is an animal, but an animal is not a cat". False statement. Chocola and Vanilla are cats, but they are also animals in the bedroom Quote
starlessn1ght Posted May 5, 2015 Author Posted May 5, 2015 False statement. Chocola and Vanilla are cats, but they are also animals in the bedroom You misunderstood what he said. AN animal, it means there are animals that aren't cats, doesn't mean that cats aren't animals. But I don't think this example applies here, since cats don't make 99% of the animals. Quote
Yuuko Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 You misunderstood what he said. AN animal, it means there are animals that aren't cats, doesn't mean that cats aren't animals. But I don't think this example applies here, since cats don't make 99% of the animals. You Quote
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