Mr. Meogii Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 So how do you guys come to a conclusion ? I personally feel that if the novel I've read is not my preferred genre and I still end up liking the crap out of it then it's a great novel. It really doesn't take much. I prefer to be simple. But i'm sure that is not the case with everyone. Another way for me to tell is if I feel extremely sad that the novel has finished . Quote
Vemocleus Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 That... is the weirdest question ever? Did you like it? Yes? Then I guess it was 'good' to you. Quote
Getsuya Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 How much of your time spent reading the VN felt like you were reading just to get to the ending? The less you feel like that, the better game was for you. Quote
Eclipsed Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 If I boot up the VN and I'm excited to read, it's good. Quote
Shikomizue Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I feel a VN is good when it engrosses you into it's story, makes you emotionally attached to it's characters and is overall enjoyable to read. Another way I tell is if the VN makes me feel or think differently about something I wouldn't normally think about. Quote
Yuuko Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 VN is good if I don't have to force myself through it or I am waiting to read it more everyday. It also leaves a weird feeling inside. how much I fapped Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 When I'm legitimately sad that it is over and it drives me to take a look at its' half-baked fandisks/spinoffs that are not translated, getting frustrated by the lack of scientific progression of mankind (aka the VN reader), than giving up on trying to learn japanese in a day and just look up the spoilers. Than I get mad at myself for putting that much effort into trying to read a cash-in on the franchise. narrlocke 1 Quote
Nayleen Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Did I feel feels? ✔ => Good ✘ => Not good Mr. Meogii 1 Quote
iamnoob Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 DETERMINING A GOOD VISUAL NOVEL PART 1a First : Number of tears d(VNDB rating) ---------------------- + ∑ Excitement! X (MOE) (√ Hnngggggg) - --------------------- = β Time d (Fuwanovel) If β ≤ ∓ ∫Waifu Then it is a good VN. Narcosis, sarayne, TexasDice and 3 others 6 Quote
Dark Ariel7 Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I go by the standard pain chart applied to my groin and wrist. If you need a picture of the chart I can attach it. Quote
Chronopolis Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 You don't...Some games you can enjoy and at the same time reasonably objectively evaluate them, while others are completely hopeless. Depends on your experience. Quote
monkeysrumble Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Usually if there's a moment where my eyes are pretty much glued to the screen then I would consider it a good VN. Unless every moment prior to that was boring, then that would just mean that VN had a good route. Quote
miria Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Depends on experience and how personallty become intersted if vn have very good art so its easy ignore story but best is good art and story Quote
Rabbit Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 If I enjoyed it, it made me think or it hit me emotionally. ^^ Quote
Kosakyun Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 As long as I had fun. If it was a trainwreck throughout the whole thing, then lol. Quote
Narcosis Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 When it didn't made me cringe and the good things overwhelmed those that weren't. Otherwise I just pit them into oblivion and pray to the universe for them to fade into obscurity, before someone, somehow considers them "decent". Judging from the ammount of current, horribly written eroge being successful on the market, it isn't particulary effective. Quote
Mr. Meogii Posted May 8, 2015 Author Posted May 8, 2015 That... is the weirdest question ever? Did you like it? Yes? Then I guess it was 'good' to you. It's not a question of did you like or not. It's rather a question of why did you enjoy it. Quote
Regenerate Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 If the neurodes inside my brain decide I want to keep my eyes open for longer than one minute than it is a good visual novel. Quote
starlessn1ght Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Depends on the intensity of the emotions it makes me feel. It also depends on how well built is the story: how does its themes fit in every character, the symbols of the story, how do the routes mix with each other, etc. The memorability of the scenes also count. But one thing that will have a big role for me to classify the VN is how well-focused are the routes. If the routes tend to drive too much away from its conflict or the heroine, it's very well-likely I will consider it a bad VN or even drop it. Another important aspect: the soundtrack. The soundtrack will contribute very much on how you will "feel" the moments of the VN. There's a lot of other criteria, but those are the main ones. Mr. Meogii 1 Quote
Lexyvil Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 The same kind of feeling one gets after knowing they read a really good book. It happens rarely, but when it does, it's when it can change your mindset permanently in the best possible way. 999 did something that no other game or movie ever did; it successfully made me shed a few tears here and there (Mother 3's ending almost did), and that's the first time I somewhat cried by delving into any fictional work. The good soundtrack and its genre in regards to all the mysterious and dramatic situations contributed a lot to the experience. YU-NO was also a thrill all the way through. I started playing it without expecting too much but it didn't take long until I realized I was playing a hidden gem. As a sucker for sci-fi, time travel (Back to the Future fanatic here) and parallel universes, the game's execution already made me indecisive on which game I preferred between 999 and this one. To answer the thread's question, I became an entirely different man in 2011 after playing through 999; it makes me glad that I accidently discovered it online. I was in dire need for more and at the end it made all other games seem a lot less interesting in contrast to what I just played. I was badly looking for something similar. Then I became someone else entirely again after playing through YU-NO, only about 2 months ago (2015). I'm sure it was the presentation, the soundtrack, the plot, the twists and the game's mechanic and the science fiction that I fell for; basically everything. The map system/time/flow chart was an awesome aspect, maybe my favourite, and one of the earliest games to use such a system. I'm not sure if there were other games that executed such a system like that before though. I'm truly looking for a life changing experience again. I can easily tell that I've read a very good visual novel when I constantly reminisce on what I've just experienced: and it goes like this: "did that really just happen?" or "why did my universe have to end?! I don't want to go back into reality! Bring me back!" Zalor, Mr. Meogii and Narcosis 3 Quote
Mr. Meogii Posted May 8, 2015 Author Posted May 8, 2015 DETERMINING A GOOD VISUAL NOVEL PART 1a First : Number of tears d(VNDB rating) ---------------------- + ∑ Excitement! X (MOE) (√ Hnngggggg) - --------------------- = β Time d (Fuwanovel) If β ≤ ∓ ∫Waifu Then it is a good VN. Lexyvil 1 Quote
Mr. Meogii Posted May 8, 2015 Author Posted May 8, 2015 Depends on the intensity of the emotions it makes me feel. It also depends on how well built is the story: how does its themes fit in every character, the symbols of the story, how do the routes mix with each other, etc. The memorability of the scenes also count. But one thing that will have a big role for me to classify the VN is how well-focused are the routes. If the routes tend to drive too much away from its conflict or the heroine, it's very well-likely I will consider it a bad VN or even drop it. Another important aspect: the soundtrack. The soundtrack will contribute very much on how you will "feel" the moments of the VN. There's a lot of other criteria, but those are the main ones. starlessn1ght 1 Quote
hsmsful Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 If the vn could convey whatever feelings amd thoughts it has to me, I would say I have read a good vn. However if I am left unaffected by whatever happened then it is not good. That's mostly for normal vns. As for some action-based vns , I judge by rather did it make my blood bump up wiyh excitement or not? But in the end I think conveying its feelings makes it good. (We are talking only about non-nukige vns, right?) Quote
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