Kurokusari Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 So yeah I saw an avatar request but not a signature one. Quote from the Forum Rules in Introduce Yourself sub forum: Signature and Avatar Guidelines No explicit nudity (genitalia and female nipples are in this category) No pornography (this includes implied sexual acts and bodily fluids) No gore (disembowelment, dismemberment, torture, etc.) No offensive content (profanity, hate speech, offensive symbolism, etc.) No seizure inducing GIFs (or GIFs that make people's eyes bleed in general) No signatures exceeding 400 Kbs in filesize Yeah doesn't really say anything about the dimensions limit but there's a note when we're editing our sigs that we are limited to 800 x 150. Uh yeah if possible can we increase the height by a bit? I'm not asking for any increase in the file size limit at all so the problem of taking more memory won't be really a problem. That leaves the problem of having signatures so tall that the the vertical scrolling of threads gets longer. I don't really see it as a problem but some might. I'm not asking for something as big as doubling the height limit but even a few pixels of increase would be really appreciated. The width:height ratio is pretty uneven (16:3). If most of people are against it or aren't really bothered by it they we can just trash this idea. I don't want to impose on anyone since I'm relatively new here. Maybe some people even find me annoying and cheeky. Please don't hate me. Anyway if you guys are open to the suggestion then I guess we can discuss it here. Maybe we can come to an agreement based on the requirements you guys want. Thanks for reading~
Nosebleed Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 The size is not in the guidelines because it's in the editor (though i guess i'll add it for the sake of it) This was discussed before and we made the limit 200 height but it was too big and made some signatures bigger than the post itself so we scaled down to 150 which is a fair middle ground and is common in most forums. It used to be 125.
Eclipsed Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I'm sure the higher ups have some fancy reason as to how a height greater than 150 pixels will make the forums looks ugly or unnecessarily inflated if peoples' sigs got bigger But ya that 800x150 always bugged me.
Kurokusari Posted May 20, 2015 Author Posted May 20, 2015 The size is not in the guidelines because it's in the editor (though i guess i'll add it for the sake of it) This was discussed before and we made the limit 200 height but it was too big so we scaled down to 150 which is a fair middle ground and is common in most forums. It used to be 125. So I'll take that as a no then? 200 was actually what I was aiming for tbh but it seems it already failed .
Roach Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Why Down's signature is ~200px in height though? I thought someone increased the limitation..
Nosebleed Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 So I'll take that as a no then? 200 was actually what I was aiming for tbh but it seems it already failed . 200 is needlessly big, there's no need for a signature to be that big. Last time we tried it it was really eye popping and inflated post height a lot to the point where the signature made up the post more than anything (especially for signatures using the full 800 x 200 size). Basically it just didn't look good. 150 is pretty standard size to be honest, I don't know why it needs to be bigger. Why Down's signature is ~200px in height though? I thought someone increased the limitation.. Down is a rebel. Moderators don't have size restrictions, though they are not encouraged to go too far with it (I remember getting scolded when I did).
Kurokusari Posted May 20, 2015 Author Posted May 20, 2015 200 is needlessly big, there's no need for a signature to be that big. Last time we tried it it was really eye popping and inflated post height a lot to the point where the signature made up the post more than anything (especially for signatures using the full 800 x 200 size) 150 is pretty standard size to be honest, I don't know why it needs to be bigger. Mainly, because of the weird width to height ratio. But if it's really a bother, then I'll stop here. It's just a request/suggestion anyway so it's not really needed. I can live with 150 height like everyone else~
Kurokusari Posted May 20, 2015 Author Posted May 20, 2015 It's a max limit, lower the width and you will have a better ratio? hehe 150 seems like a fine limit to me, doesnt become 50%(exaggeration yay) sigs when reading threads. not that i see any tho... as i have it disabled so to me not even 800x800 would matter Yeah but matching it sometimes end up being thumbnail small. Like my sig for example. It's just that I'm used to having a 2:1 ratio so it just bothers me a bit. Maybe OCD acting up. Emi 1
OriginalRen Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Down is a rebel. Moderators don't have size restrictions, though they are not encouraged to go too far with it (I remember getting scolded when I did). #Oppression Please Down... Tay 1
Lewycool Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Just use within the maximum margin. They're big enough already
Kurokusari Posted May 20, 2015 Author Posted May 20, 2015 You guys could already lock/archive this thread. It doesn't seem like anyone agrees with me on this one. I just thought it was worth a try to ask, that's all.
Rose Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I'm more used to 600x200 so I'll just say that I'd agree with this change, I know things will remain the same but just making a statement. Kurokusari and Mr Poltroon 2
LinovaA Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I would love 200 height. It was a pain making this sig I have now look nice within the size constraints~ Ah well.
Tay Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Fuwa History Fact(ish): I'm pretty sure this is a relic of Ryoji and I cracking down on signatures. It was one of those times where I wanted to be even stricter and Ryoji had to advocate for the people. Not positive, tho, since I don't really remember the later 125>150px decision. (I was the original 100px advocate, btw, back in 2012 : P.) Nay unilaterally changed it at one point, I think (he gave you even more leeway, so sing his praises), but that's hazy, too.#Oppression Thank you for the positive reinforcement!
Nosebleed Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 The decision in question (Damn it was back in 2013, time sure flies by) For members who can't access the archive: On second thought going all the way to 200 might have been silly after all. I hope 150, MAYBE 160 will work out for everyone. I'm sorry and I should have given this more thought, but the very valid reasoning Forum sig limit increases, people make sigs bigger than most of their posts came up, which is why I was hesitant to increase it in the first place.
Tay Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 The decision in question (Damn it was back in 2013, time sure flies by)Nice find! Looks like that's the Nayleen decision I was thinking about. There was another, earlier powwow at some point, but that might've since been lost in the admin archive. It probably would have happened in the "staff" board, as it was then known.
OriginalRen Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Fuwa History Fact(ish): I'm pretty sure this is a relic of Ryoji and I cracking down on signatures. It was one of those times where I wanted to be even stricter and Ryoji had to advocate for the people. Not positive, tho, since I don't really remember the later 125>150px decision. (I was the original 100px advocate, btw, back in 2012 : P.) Nay unilaterally changed it at one point, I think (he gave you even more leeway, so sing his praises), but that's hazy, too. Thank you for the positive reinforcement! Rose, Emi and nohman 3
Down Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I'm more used to 600x200 so I'll just say that I'd agree with this change, I know things will remain the same but just making a statement. I... use my current sig because I thought this was actually the limit... Like in most other forums =o Welp, I guess I need to change. Soon™ Rose 1
Rose Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I... use my current sig because I thought this was actually the limit... Like in most other forums =o Welp, I guess I need to change. Soon™
Nosebleed Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 There'll always be the person that comes along with a 800 x 200 signature and that's when things get annoying to look at and as Nayleen said back then if we keep increasing the size limit, people start making signatures bigger and flashier than their posts. I've already had to remove some signatures because they were outrageously flashy and distracting and they were only 150 pixels high. You can make a decently proportional signature that's 150 pixels high, you don't have to use the full 800 pixels width (most people don't), it's clearly not impossible, of course if you want a 2:1 proportion signature, that's obviously going to hinder you a bit since you're trying to use an almost square picture, but most people don't usually use such proportions and stick with wider rectangular stuff and 150 pixels is more than enough for that. A signature is not meant to be a 2nd avatar or a painting for people to gaze at, people always want bigger and bigger sizes for everything, but there has to be a cap somewhere, I think 150 pixels is more than fair enough to work with and doesn't create signatures that are overly big. We're a forum not an art gallery.
Down Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 people start making sigs bigger and flashier than their posts Don't worry, I only make quality posts© so I won't have this issue I also have the most utterly refined tastes so flashy sigs are not likely to be an issue either!
Eclipsed Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) aight i agree 200 pixel height is too thick Edited May 20, 2015 by Eclipsed .
Nayleen Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Lots of experimenting back in the day, considering that was around the time when I was admin for the first time. I don't see demand to up the limits apart from the opening post, otherwise I'd say - as usual - to put the issue up for discussion. Things often change over time.
sanahtlig Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I am generally opposed to features that crowd out actual discussion with redundant static content (signatures). If it were up to me, images probably wouldn't even be allowed in signatures. In addition, I'd possibly restrict signatures to one line of text. Darklord Rooke 1
Eclipsed Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Is 175 a decent ratio and compromise for people who like bigger?
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