Muv Luv: A Pretty Sweet Visual Novel Series Kickstarter [MILLION DOLLAR BABY]

[vinnces]

I'm just surprised they had the balls to translate it after it's already been done by fans, I would assume that everyone already had it since it's "free" and no one would bother with a paid version. Good on them.

I wish they did the kickstarter in Yen and not US dollars, our dollar is about 30% weaker in just a matter of months. So that $300 pledge has now turned into very close to $500. Our dollar compared to Yen is still very similar.

 

They can't.  KS is a US corporation.  To even kickstart anything you actually need to have a US business/corporation in the US.  Saw this problem before on another KS project when the creator wanted to see if he could do it in Canadian dollars.

[kyrt]

Here's a quick update they posted about meeting the first stretch goal;

 

"Hi Everyone, 
Wow, we’ve just hit our first stretch goal! 
Thank you all so much!

This means that the following are now going to be a part of the Muv-Luv Trilogy: 
- Additional brand new CGs 
- Additional OSTs and BGMs
- Minor voice acting improvements of some scenes with English voices
- Special unlockable content

We’ll be providing more info on what exactly will be included with this over the next few weeks. We’re also planning an update for early October that will better showcase some of the merchandise available.

The next stretch goal is the Android and Vita port at 500k. I know a lot of you are excited for this and hopefully we can make it there!

We’re also working hard to get our hands on some additional TSFs to refill some of the reward tiers that have been selling out amazingly fast. We should have an update on this by Monday.

Thank you once again for the amazing response to our Kickstarter and all the great comments, feedback, and encouragement you’ve been sending us. We are truly humbled.

The Muv-Luv Team

[KT89]

I'm just surprised they had the balls to translate it after it's already been done by fans, I would assume that everyone already had it since it's "free" and no one would bother with a paid version. Good on them.I wish they did the kickstarter in Yen and not US dollars, our dollar is about 30% weaker in just a matter of months. So that $300 pledge has now turned into very close to $500. Our dollar compared to Yen is still very similar.

I supported it because on Windows 8 parts are unplayable and the resolution sucks hopefully this release fixes those problems.

[Soulless Watcher]

kingdomcome, on 27 Sept 2015 - 09:57 AM, said:kingdomcome, on 27 Sept 2015 - 09:57 AM, said:

I'm just surprised they had the balls to translate it after it's already been done by fans, I would assume that everyone already had it since it's "free" and no one would bother with a paid version. Good on them.

Um, did you completely forget about Clannad and Steins;Gate? Both had fantranslations out for quite awhile before someone offically localized them. There is also that vid on the kickstarter (around the 5:16-5:33 mark to be exact) that seems to hint that if the kickstarter does well they will work to release other MuvLuv titles to the west. It's kinda like what alicesoft is doing with mangagamer, except age chose their biggest title and not a relatively unkown vn that didn't even sell all that well in Japan.

[Baldur]

Now at $420,000.Very good pace

[WinterfuryZX]

It should reach 500k by the end of next week, it's already surpassing grisaia.

[Soulless Watcher]

Zenophilious, on 27 Sept 2015 - 2:43 PM, said:

Hurr hurr, blaze it up with Muv-Luv, brah 

 

I'm thinking about backing either the $80 or the $150 tier.  I'd rather only back the $150 tier if the Codex gets funded, and if the photons got funded that'd be the cherry on top, but I'm still kind of on the fence.  Should I just back $150 and change it at the end if the Codex doesn't happen?  I've only Kickstarted one project before (HRP), so I'm still kinda cautious about using Kickstarter, since I don't have much experience with it.

I've kickstarted a few projects and it's pretty easy to change your tier amount at the last minute, so you could go either way.

[Soulless Watcher]

I'm getting mighty annoyed with people complaining about the cost of tiers and add-ons. The primary reason you should be backing a kickstarter is to help fund a project, the rewards are just bonuses that come with it. Kickstarter is a crowdfunding website, not a online store.

[kingdomcome]

Um, did you completely forget about Clannad and Steins;Gate? Both had fantranslations out for quite awhile before someone offically localized them. There is also that vid on the kickstarter (around the 5:16-5:33 mark to be exact) that seems to hint that if the kickstarter does well they will work to release other MuvLuv titles to the west. It's kinda like what alicesoft is doing with mangagamer, except age chose their biggest title and not a relatively unkown vn that didn't even sell all that well in Japan.

Yeah, you're right. I'm surprised that they bothered to KS as well. I backed them myself, even though I've completed them.I suppose I think of most people as pirates..

 

 

They can't.  KS is a US corporation.  To even kickstart anything you actually need to have a US business/corporation in the US.  Saw this problem before on another KS project when the creator wanted to see if he could do it in Canadian dollars.

Actually, more countries are accepted now. Australia and Canada can actually do it in their currency. Not sure about Japan though..

 

I'm getting mighty annoyed with people complaining about the cost of tiers and add-ons. The primary reason you should be backing a kickstarter is to help fund a project, the rewards are just bonuses that come with it. Kickstarter is a crowdfunding website, not a online store.

IMO many companies are treating it as a store. I'd say Sekai project has done a bit of that.

[Mkilbride]

Also, you can pledge any amount and retract it. I almost had to pay 10,000$ because of that, so be careful, as you can't pull your pledge out if it would make a game go under it's goal. But  since this has hit it. I learned my lesson then, but it was kinda fun to troll witht he 10,000$+ random donations.

 

As for you saying Kickstarter is a funding website - not really, not in the traditional sense. Since it's inception, it's always been more of a "Pre-order" website. As you get the game usually for 'donating', but it will take years, think of it as advanced pre-ordering.  Nobody is going to give Star Citizen it's 100M for nothing in return, eh?  Same with several other KS. OF course they can complain about how some of the tiers are stupidly priced for what they give. The whole point of KS is to show interest, and that a game will sell.

 

People who see Kickstarter as "donation" website, obviously haven't been on it long.

 

@KT89 what do you mean the resolution sucks? It's widescreen for me, and it loosk pretty beautiful on my 27', 1440p monitor or my 50'' TV.   If you're thinking they're gonna go back and re-daw all the art assets in 4k or some such...you're wrong. Touch up here or there, maybe a filter, but yeah, it looks good enough as is.

 

Also, off-topic, but  people keep mentioning that Grisala serie sin this thread, and it's KS did reach almost 500k I see - is it any good? Worth it for the story, basically? I looked at on VNDB and I thought it looked like harem comedy.

[Soulless Watcher]

Mkilbride, on 27 Sept 2015 - 4:46 PM, said:Mkilbride, on 27 Sept 2015 - 4:46 PM, said:Mkilbride, on 27 Sept 2015 - 4:46 PM, said:Mkilbride, on 27 Sept 2015 - 4:46 PM, said:

Also, you can pledge any amount and retract it. I almost had to pay 10,000$ because of that, so be careful, as you can't pull your pledge out if it would make a game go under it's goal. But  since this has hit it. I learned my lesson then, but it was kinda fun to troll witht he 10,000$+ random donations.

You are an asshole man.

 

Mkilbride, on 27 Sept 2015 - 4:46 PM, said:Mkilbride, on 27 Sept 2015 - 4:46 PM, said:Mkilbride, on 27 Sept 2015 - 4:46 PM, said:

As for you saying Kickstarter is a funding website - not really, not in the traditional sense. Since it's inception, it's always been more of a "Pre-order" website. As you get the game usually for 'donating', but it will take years, think of it as advanced pre-ordering.  Nobody is going to give Star Citizen it's 100M for nothing in return, eh?  Same with several other KS. OF course they can complain about how some of the tiers are stupidly priced for what they give. The whole point of KS is to show interest, and that a game will sell.

 

People who see Kickstarter as "donation" website, obviously haven't been on it long.

Perhaps you have a point, but do you really think that these people have any right to complain about the cost of the tsf model when a simple search can find the same product for $50? There was also a twat sandwich earlier that was trying to get a "side-deal" for just a custom sketch because he claimed that the tier cost didn't make sense.

 

 

Mkilbride, on 27 Sept 2015 - 4:46 PM, said:Mkilbride, on 27 Sept 2015 - 4:46 PM, said:Mkilbride, on 27 Sept 2015 - 4:46 PM, said:

 

Also, off-topic, but  people keep mentioning that Grisala serie sin this thread, and it's KS did reach almost 500k I see - is it any good? Worth it for the story, basically? I looked at on VNDB and I thought it looked like harem comedy.

It is one of the more known visual novels, so of course opinions are divided. I can say for certain that it isn't a common harem comedy, each of the heroines have a dark past that you discover through their routes.

[CeruleanGamer]

I'm getting mighty annoyed with people complaining about the cost of tiers and add-ons. The primary reason you should be backing a kickstarter is to help fund a project, the rewards are just bonuses that come with it. Kickstarter is a crowdfunding website, not a online store.

It's not suppose to be, but it is done all the time. In fact, companies do it all the time to increase the incentive to buy their future products and is quite effective if they are high quality. It works well in a marketing perspective. Like Mkilbride said, it's like a pre-ordering website. You get some nice exclusives that normally you wouldn't get if you buy the game later.

[vinnces]

Earlier in KS life it could be said that it was for small companies or individual looking for some funding to get something off the ground.  Now really it does feel like a early pre-order store and larger companies do a KS just for marketing buzz and early income to offset there risk.  I think Shenmue 3 probably is the best recent example of this.  Honestly though I don't really have a problem with it too much.

[Mkilbride]

Yeah, Shenmue is the most recent example. It was already being made, they said the Kickstarter was done to gauge interest in the product though, and that if the KS succeeded or failed, it'd still be made...

 

Then they did a second Kickstarter, as well...

 

KS is a shop, pretty much, where you can pre-order a game before it's even made.

[Scars Unseen]

Yeah, Shenmue is the most recent example. It was already being made, they said the Kickstarter was done to gauge interest in the product though, and that if the KS succeeded or failed, it'd still be made...

 

Then they did a second Kickstarter, as well...

 

KS is a shop, pretty much, where you can pre-order a game before it's even made.

 

 Not to get too off track, but there is almost nothing true in your post.  And the part that is is misleading.  Shenmue 3 would not have been made without Kickstarter.  That one Sony rep talked about how he could have pushed for it to be made without crowd funding, but that this would have taken several years before the project would have even gotten started.  It wasn't already being made, and Sony is not funding the project(they are putting money into the PS4 release and marketing thereof, but that's not the same thing as development money).  There is some outside funding, the extent of which is unknown, but it was made very clear that Shenmue wasn't getting made without crowd funding, and that the amount of crowdfunding would determine the scope of what could be achieved.  Pretty much the same as with Bloodstained, only with worse PR.

 

And Shenmue did not do a "second Kickstarter."  They opened Paypal a Backer Kit, something practically every major successful video game Kickstarter has done.  Bloodstained has one open right now.  Pillars of Eternity had one(though it wasn't called a backer kit) for most of its development.  Most visual novel Kickstarters have done it.  Muv-Luv will as well.  It's a normal part of the crowd funding cycle, usually focused on squeezing out a few more stretch goals and providing a way to contribute for people who won't or can't go through Kickstarter directly.  

[Decay]

Mkilbride seems to have a major problem with actually being properly informed, and is made a series of grossly misinformed rant posts based on false information. A lot of what he has said throughout this thread has no basis in reality.

[Scars Unseen]

I'd actually give him the benefit of the doubt in this case, as misinformation about Shenmue 3 is pretty widespread.  I've seen threads where the predominant opinion is that Shenmue is proof that crowd funding is heading toward a collapse, pretty much entirely based on spurious information spread by websites whose writers couldn't find the word "fact" or "checking" in a dictionary at gunpoint.

[vinnces]

I'd actually give him the benefit of the doubt in this case, as misinformation about Shenmue 3 is pretty widespread.  I've seen threads where the predominant opinion is that Shenmue is proof that crowd funding is heading toward a collapse, pretty much entirely based on spurious information spread by websites whose writers couldn't find the word "fact" or "checking" in a dictionary at gunpoint.

 

Well, with what happen with Red Ash doesn't really invoke confidence that there wasn't some kind of deal going on in the background.  Totally different company and game but just an example.  Who would've thought even a year ago that a KS would be announce during Sony E3 conference.  The bad PR effort trying to explain thing doesn't help either.

 

But getting off topic here....   Almost 450k.  At this pace we might hit 600k by the end especially with them adding more Takemikazuchi models.

[WinterfuryZX]

[Darklord Rooke]

If you compare the Muv Luv and Clannad kickstarters, at this point in their respective campaigns they both had roughly the same number of backers, it's just Muv Luv's backers have pledged so much more dough per person. And this has resulted in Muv Luv's total being roughly double that of Clannad's at around day 4.

[Scars Unseen]

I didn't follow Clannad's Kickstarter, but apparently this is largely due to it not having anything worth pledging for in the mid to upper tiers.  Muv-Luv's campaign seems to be better planned out.

 

At the rate things are going, I'm actually fairly optimistic about hitting that last stretch goal.

[Darklord Rooke]

I didn't follow Clannad's Kickstarter, but apparently this is largely due to it not having anything worth pledging for in the mid to upper tiers.  Muv-Luv's campaign seems to be better planned out.

 

Indeed. It's amazing the difference a well run campaign makes

[Chuee]

Also keep in mind Muv-Luv is 2 seperate games. The best tier if you wanted physical copies (most people do) is the $150 tier, compared to Clannad's physical copy tier which was much lower. 

[Scars Unseen]

That's only if you want the collector's box.  You can get physical copies of both games for $80.  Granted, the $150 tier gains value once we start clearing the rest of the stretch goals.  Anything lower than that would have to get the stretch goal stuff through Backer Kit.

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Indeed. It's amazing the difference a well run campaign makes

Muv-Luv: A pretty sweet visual novel series