Fate/Grand Order

[TheUnknownMercenary]

1 hour ago, wei123 said:

Hi, I'm new here (started on Saturday,21 April, one day after it was released in my country). Please give me so tips on leveling up Servants. My party setup is as follows:

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Herc gonna be your boy. Level him up and he will smash. Do you have any other servants? I personally don't really like D'eon but if you wana use ...it? him you can. David is pretty good but for archers I would go with Euyale or Robin Hood, for Riders go with Medusa/Ushi, personal opinion on who to use, BUT if you like those characters don't bother listening to me. You can pretty much clear everything with your favourites regardless of their rarirty so.

For 3 and below level stars, Hans, Shakespear, Amadeus, Lu Bu, Cu, Caesar, Robin Hood, Euryale, Medusa, Ushi, Hassan, Kojiro are some REALLY good servants

Especially Hans, Cu which are basically broke for 2 and 3 star respectively. Hassan is your Assassin (kojiro is good to but Hassan does what an Assassin should VERY well).

[Inorin]

1 hour ago, TheUnknownMercenary said:

 

Herc gonna be your boy. Level him up and he will smash. Do you have any other servants? I personally don't really like D'eon but if you wana use ...it? him you can. David is pretty good but for archers I would go with Euyale or Robin Hood, for Riders go with Medusa/Ushi, personal opinion on who to use, BUT if you like those characters don't bother listening to me. You can pretty much clear everything with your favourites regardless of their rarirty so.

For 3 and below level stars, Hans, Shakespear, Amadeus, Lu Bu, Cu, Caesar, Robin Hood, Euryale, Medusa, Ushi, Hassan, Kojiro are some REALLY good servants

Especially Hans, Cu which are basically broke for 2 and 3 star respectively. Hassan is your Assassin (kojiro is good to but Hassan does what an Assassin should VERY well).

Thanks for the help! I have both Medusa and Hassan so I will take your advice into consideration. Also, how do I increase the number of stars for a Servant? Is it even possible to change it? And how do you obtain a 5* Servant, without cashing (is it even possible at all)?

P.S Sorry for the noob questions.

 

Edited April 24, 2018 by wei123

[TheUnknownMercenary]

41 minutes ago, wei123 said:

Thanks for the help! I have both Medusa and Hassan so I will take your advice into consideration. Also, how do I increase the number of stars for a Servant? Is it even possible to change it? And how do you obtain a 5* Servant, without cashing (is it even possible at all)?

P.S Sorry for the noob questions.

 

There is no way to increase "Star" level but you can GRAIL servants. star just really means your lvl cap, so 5star is capped at 90, 4 at 80, 3 at 70, 2 at 65, 1 at 60? i think. So of course their stats are lower if they have lower star level, but stats don't really mean too much. It's all about skills and NP. This is why people like Cu, Hans, Hassan, are GREAT as they have amazing skills and/or NP abilities despite having lower "stats" and level "cap"

However by Grailing servants (once they reach max cap level you can use a Holy Grail to increase their level cap (before 90 it goes up by 5 so, 60 -> 65 -> 70 -> 75 -> 80 -> 85 -> 90, 90 goes up by 2 to 100 so 90 -> 92 -> 94 etc to 100 which is THE level CAP) you can get lower stars to be on relatively better footing to compare to upper stars. However note that in this game GRAILS are limited, you will get more as time goes on but they are entirely limited resources so be careful on who you grail. It is recommended to grail the servants you REALLY like rather than for "stats" or "min/max"ing as the servants you really like are the ones you will most likely play with and therefore you will get the most out of grailing those.

To get 5* servants it's rare even on rateup. Rateup just means that 5 star servants are 1% chance. if the game registers you as getting a 5 star it will then randomize WHICH 5 star you get, rateup just means when this RANDOMIZE process starts you will have a better chance at getting that servant. but this does not increase the 1%

In saying that, if you want to remain free to play, just save up your quarts and tickets and don't go ham on spending them, spend every now and again, a multi here and multi there, a ticket every now and then. you may get lucky.

I myself for instance spent 2 tickets randomly on the story gacha and got a 4 star AND a 5 star. I have spent a few multis on banners and got both the 4 star and 5 stars in a few multis...but at the same time I have gone over 1000sq without getting a single 5 star before and also over 500 without a single 4 star. and even THEN you aren't guaranteed the servant you wana roll for...so just appreciate everything you get, don't go ham, and have fun.

[TheUnknownMercenary]

I'll just point out that I got a ticket from a 7 day streak and rolled in the story gacha because i already have iskander and kiri. Got 5* Karna (np2 now) so that just goes to show man, sometimes you just get lucky.

[Flutterz]

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[Inorin]

I got my first 5* Servant today! 

[TakunDes]

On 18/05/2018 at 7:11 PM, wei123 said:

I got my first 5* Servant today! 

 

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I spent over a 1000 quartz and end up with only 5* Altera, want to kms. Gonna only spent on paid gacha from now on. The current  event is also quite P2W

[TheUnknownMercenary]

On 27/05/2018 at 4:34 PM, TakunDes said:

I spent over a 1000 quartz and end up with only 5* Altera, want to kms. Gonna only spent on paid gacha from now on. The current  event is also quite P2W

I would argue it isn't P2W considering how many servants I have and I still can barely clear bp3 with a 40% success rate. The fucking event is hugely luck based, I don't know ANYONE who can clear it consistently.

[Seth]

2 hours ago, TheUnknownMercenary said:

I would argue it isn't P2W considering how many servants I have and I still can barely clear bp3 with a 40% success rate. The fucking event is hugely luck based, I don't know ANYONE who can clear it consistently.

Tamamo, Orion, Support Waver. The only day I couldn't clear consistently was Rider because Waver often died too soon. That team does require 2 SSR though, F2P teams do have a problem here since Ibaraki deals so much damage.

Edited May 29, 2018 by Seth

[TheUnknownMercenary]

36 minutes ago, Seth said:

Tamamo, Orion, Support Waver. The only day I couldn't clear consistently was Rider because Waver often died too soon. That team does require 2 SSR though, F2P teams do have a problem here since Ibaraki deals so much damage.

My best units happened to be non SSR/SR units aside from waver who you can get from support. But Mash and Cu were MVPs in this. I didn't lvl up Orion but maybe my luck is just abysmal because I have issues with

Jalter/Waver/Tamamo/Waver/Mash/Cu

[Seth]

Just now, TheUnknownMercenary said:

My best units happened to be non SSR/SR units aside from waver who you can get from support. But Mash and Cu were MVPs in this. I didn't lvl up Orion but maybe my luck is just abysmal because I have issues with

Jalter/Waver/Tamamo/Waver/Mash/Cu

This event really showed me Orion's quality. Arts teams are great for this challenge because of their survivability and Orion is one of the tankier Arts DPS making her a good pick even if her extra damage against males doesn't apply here. I know that people love using Jalter for nearly everything but at least before Merlin is a thing she is not great at surviving.

[TakunDes]

On 29/05/2018 at 1:42 PM, TheUnknownMercenary said:

I would argue it isn't P2W considering how many servants I have and I still can barely clear bp3 with a 40% success rate. The fucking event is hugely luck based, I don't know ANYONE who can clear it consistently.

I got 11 SSR with close to 2K$ spent, it's P2W in the way that you must be someone with NP5 servants 5* to be able to clear BP3 consistently. Anyone who's not a whale will not be able to clear BP3 at all.  The event is gone now so it's all good but it's like the first FGO event that was leaning towards P2W that much

[Flutterz]

10 hours ago, TakunDes said:

I got 11 SSR with close to 2K$ spent, it's P2W in the way that you must be someone with NP5 servants 5* to be able to clear BP3 consistently. Anyone who's not a whale will not be able to clear BP3 at all.  The event is gone now so it's all good but it's like the first FGO event that was leaning towards P2W that much

Back when Rashoumon first arrived in JP, I got all of the damage rewards and the only time I spent money was on the guaranteed 5* gacha. I wasn't technically F2P, but you definitely don't need 11 SSRs at NP5. Sure, you need to put in a bit more effort, but that's true for basically all of the higher level content. The only thing I've seen in the game so far that you could call P2W is the original Nero challenge in the upcoming Nerofest for NA.

[Thyndd]

This game reminds me a lot of Brave Frontier, which I used to play some years ago. I wasted too much money I shouldn't have wasted with that game... I'm gonna install this, but for the record I'll make the solemn oath to remain F2P right here and now 

EDIT: Ok, I already installed it and gave it a try. Yep, it's almost identical to Brave Frontier. I'm gonna reroll a few times to get the servants I want (or I think I want, cause I don't really know what's good in this game yet ). Wish me luck!

Edited June 2, 2018 by Thyndd

[Inorin]

20 hours ago, Thyndd said:

This game reminds me a lot of Brave Frontier, which I used to play some years ago. I wasted too much money I shouldn't have wasted with that game... I'm gonna install this, but for the record I'll make the solemn oath to remain F2P right here and now 

EDIT: Ok, I already installed it and gave it a try. Yep, it's almost identical to Brave Frontier. I'm gonna reroll a few times to get the servants I want (or I think I want, cause I don't really know what's good in this game yet ). Wish me luck!

The chances of getting a SSR (5*) Servant are ridiculously low, with only a 1% chance of rolling them in Saint Quartz Summons, and even then, that percentage is split amongst several Servants. I got very lucky when I rolled Shuten Douji (which is a limited time Servant btw), since it was only my 2nd 10x roll and the chances of rolling her was like 0.7%. 

Anyways, some tips for you:

- There are four types of cards: Servants, Craft Essences (equipped by Servants to boost stats and apply battle effects), Experience Cards, and Status Up Cards.

- 3* cards are called R (Rare), 4* cards are called SR (Super Rare) and 5* cards are called SSR (Super Super Rare). I have no idea what 1* and 2* cards are called but it doesn't really matter since those are usually burned/sold.

- You will never be able to roll a SSR Servant from the Tutorial Summoning. However, you will be guaranteed at least 1 SR Servant and 1 SR CE. I got Chevalier d'Eon (Saber) and Heracles (Berserker). Can't really recall the CE I got. More info on Summoning here.

- Don't spend quartz on restoring AP or reviving your team. If you remain F2P, quartz are going to be finite.

- Continue to remain F2P (unless you are loaded). I got my first SSR Servant within a month of playing without spending a single cent, so it's not impossible to get the rare stuff without burning a hole in your wallet.

Edited June 3, 2018 by wei123

[Thyndd]

Thank you very much for the info and tips! I should be fairly familiar with how this game works. 

In Brave Frontier you also have spheres (equivalent to craft essences from what I can see). The star rarity thing is a bit different though. In BF you could evolve your 4* into 5* or even 6* in some cases. It seems like here you are stuck with the original number of stars the unit has, but then there's that ascension thing which I guess it's the evolve counterpart. 

The gacha rate is even lower here ffs, I never thought I'd live to see the day 

For now I set up some instances on an emulator with a macro for rerolling. Let's just leave it there for a while and see How long it takes to get that pesky first SSR 

EDIT:

Ok then, got the first 5*, Sanzang. The rates were up for her so that was to be expected. How do you guys think she compares against other 5*?

Edited June 3, 2018 by Thyndd

[Inorin]

11 hours ago, Thyndd said:

For now I set up some instances on an emulator with a macro for rerolling. Let's just leave it there for a while and see How long it takes to get that pesky first SSR 

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Ok then, got the first 5*, Sanzang. The rates were up for her so that was to be expected. How do you guys think she compares against other 5*?

You got her on the emulator or the actual game itself? fyi the increased rate for sanzhang doesn't actually increase your chances of getting a SSR Servant (it still remains 1%); rather it's more like you will probably get her if you were to roll a SSR Servant. 

Anyways, to answer your question, she's pretty good for a Caster, since her NP is Buster type (meaning it deals rather high damage) and her base stats are pretty high (for a Caster). However, her card set is focused on generating NP (3 Arts cards out of a possible 5), so you will have a hard time dealing damage to enemies despite the high attack stat (though on the contrary, this means that you will be able to use her NP many times). 

Tdlr; she's damn good for a Caster (maybe even more so than Zhuge Liang). However, because she's a Caster, she has a 90% attacker modifier, which means that her attack is actually 10% less.

[Thyndd]

9 minutes ago, wei123 said:

You got her on the emulator or the actual game itself? fyi the increased rate for sanzhang doesn't actually increase your chances of getting a SSR Servant (it still remains 1%); rather it's more like you will probably get her if you were to roll a SSR Servant. 

Emulator, while rerolling for a SSR. I think I've read somewhere on the net that the odds for a rate up are 0.7% of getting the unit in question and 0.3% of getting any other SSR, therefore adding up to 1%. Gosh that's so damn low. If those numbers are correct I'm pretty lucky since I've got her within the first 30 rerolls lol. 

Now I dunno what to do. I could start playing already or tinker with the rerolling a little more  Since I commited to being completely F2P this will be my best shot at getting a great unit for later content. 

[TheUnknownMercenary]

On 02/06/2018 at 4:20 AM, TakunDes said:

I got 11 SSR with close to 2K$ spent, it's P2W in the way that you must be someone with NP5 servants 5* to be able to clear BP3 consistently. Anyone who's not a whale will not be able to clear BP3 at all.  The event is gone now so it's all good but it's like the first FGO event that was leaning towards P2W that much

I have spent way more than you, it ISN'T pay to win, I ended up being able to cleared BP3 CONSISTENTLY after switching to an entirely f2p team, guess what I used:

Support Waver, Cu Lancer, Cu Caster, Cu Proto, Mash, Leonidas.

Pretty much defines F2P right there.

I pretty much ran the entire event FAILING using almost every combination of SSR/SR servants I could think of. Until one of my f2p friends recommended me their team which, low and behold was all 3* and below with the exception of a support. Not believing they could clear this consistently which they told me they could, Switched to that team on the last day of the event and farmed over 100mil that day without losing once.

For the record I have every servant with the exception of Arjuna because I chose not to role for him as I don't like him.

Edited June 4, 2018 by TheUnknownMercenary

[TheUnknownMercenary]

8 hours ago, Thyndd said:

Emulator, while rerolling for a SSR. I think I've read somewhere on the net that the odds for a rate up are 0.7% of getting the unit in question and 0.3% of getting any other SSR, therefore adding up to 1%. Gosh that's so damn low. If those numbers are correct I'm pretty lucky since I've got her within the first 30 rerolls lol. 

Now I dunno what to do. I could start playing already or tinker with the rerolling a little more  Since I commited to being completely F2P this will be my best shot at getting a great unit for later content. 

I would suggest, like I have to many new players, go for what YOU want not what you think is good. As I mention above, this game you can clear most content with 3* and below with the help of a good support from time to time and most of your friends will have whatever "support" you will need.

In terms of "Broken" characters there are really only a few. Waver is one of those characters. The reason being is that he has 3 abilities all of which increase a characters NP gauge, 2 of which increase ALL allies NP gauge. These abilities basically increase 1) all allies attack + NP, 2) all defense + NP 3) A selected characters NP + Crit strength. His NP also gives a lot of debuffs, including some pretty amazing ones such as stun (chance), enemy NP charge down, def down, curse (enemy takes damage per turn for a few turns).

And most people HAVE him on their support caster list so there really isn't a need to roll for him. So I suggest picking one you like, and going with that and having fun, especially since you are F2P.

I would also state that the gacha can be amazing and shit so don't whale unless got the cash to back it up.

In the past few gachas I got Shuten in less than 150sq, I got Li Shuwen and Xuan in 300sq (I was rolling for Li Shuwen who i got on my FIRST roll and decided to roll for craft essence for this event, I ended up gettig 5 total Li Shuwens and 3 Xuan, 2 of which were from tickets). I also got 1 lancelot and 1 D'eon making it 7 total SR and 3 SSR in 300sq

Similarly, I went 500$ in the Cu Alter banner without a single SR or SSR until I finally got 1 SR (that's 750sq btw, and then went straight to 1k until I got Cu Alter. Which means in 1k (1500sq) I got 1 SR and 1 SSR.

This happened to me 3 times if i remember, once on Bryn banner, once on Okita, and once on Cu Alter.

Many other servants either came through tickets or under 150sq, and a handful in between massive spending and barely any.

At this point I found that almost no servant is worth whaling unless you are willing to go that mile. Just enjoy the game instead and you will probably eventually randomly get the servant.

[Thyndd]

I mean... I COULD try to reroll for waver, but some quick maths reveal that I should reroll 3100+ times to have 90%+ chance of getting him. With the current speed of my emulator that would take like 2 months. I don't think it's worth it 

I think I should take your advice and just try to enjoy the game. Though let me tell you, if I spent 500$ and got nothing at all I would've broken my Phone, quited the game and killed myself. Not exactly sure in what order. 

Edited June 4, 2018 by Thyndd

[TheUnknownMercenary]

13 minutes ago, Thyndd said:

I mean... I COULD try to reroll for waver, but some quick maths reveal that I should reroll 3100+ times to have 90%+ chance of getting him. With the current speed of my emulator that would take like 2 months. I don't think it's worth it 

I think I should take your advice and just try to enjoy the game. Though let me tell you, if I spent 500$ and got nothing at all I would've broken my Phone, quited the game and killed myself. Not exactly sure in what order. 

Is why I tell people that if you are whaling be prepared to either fail or spent a shitload because you COULD go 1k and not get a single SSR (in my case I got Cu Alter, the ONLY SSR I got on my VERY last multi on the VERY LAST slot at the end of my 1k).

You will have a better time just enjoying the game and leaving it to luck if you get the characters or not. There are usually reruns and many servants will perma be in the gacha so unless you have, say, a huge damn hard on for Gil, who is limited, I would say don't worry about it. And even then just roll whatever you got and if you don't get them be okay with it, move on, and try again next time.

Waver is in pretty much EVERYONES support as almost everyone playing from day 1 has him (because everyone either rerolled for him which wasn't too hard considering there was what...5 SSRs in the gacha back then? or he spooped you later on).

[Thyndd]

9 minutes ago, TheUnknownMercenary said:

Is why I tell people that if you are whaling be prepared to either fail or spent a shitload because you COULD go 1k and not get a single SSR (in my case I got Cu Alter, the ONLY SSR I got on my VERY last multi on the VERY LAST slot at the end of my 1k).

Man, this is more depresing than any utsuge I've ever read 

Yeah, definitely, I'm not gonna spend 1 cent on this game. The few extra chances are not worth the money at all. I'll gladly welcome whatever I get and that's it. 

Well, thank you both a lot for all the info and tips!

[TheUnknownMercenary]

14 minutes ago, Thyndd said:

Man, this is more depresing than any utsuge I've ever read 

Yeah, definitely, I'm not gonna spend 1 cent on this game. The few extra chances are not worth the money at all. I'll gladly welcome whatever I get and that's it. 

Well, thank you both a lot for all the info and tips!

No problem, I know too many people who got butt hurt over not getting a character in 500sq, 300sq, and even 150sq. You gotta remember that it's basically a lottery. Sure you COULD get a SSR off a ticket but you are also likely NOT to get an SSR in a shitload of pulls. If you go in not expecting anything it makes it that much more awesome when you roll a ticket for giggles and Jeanne pops out randomly off rate up just cause (happened to me and it was, at the time, the only SSR I didn't have because she hadn't had a rate up yet).

Have fun and if you need help on team comps or anything just ask.

[Flutterz]

3 hours ago, Thyndd said:

Man, this is more depresing than any utsuge I've ever read 

Yeah, definitely, I'm not gonna spend 1 cent on this game. The few extra chances are not worth the money at all. I'll gladly welcome whatever I get and that's it. 

Well, thank you both a lot for all the info and tips!

The only time you should consider spending money is when there's a guaranteed 5* gacha because, well, you're guaranteed to get a 5*.