Conjueror's Untranslated Visual Novel Tournament [Discussion]

[Darklord Rooke]

From now on I’m going to apply full-proof logic and strong reasoning in my voting endeavours.

Which is why I voted for Parfait, because screw all Type Moon fans! Ahaha Kidding, KIDDING … I’m not kidding.

[Fred the Barber]

1 minute ago, Rooke said:

From now on I’m going to apply full-proof logic and strong reasoning in my voting endeavours.

Which is why I voted for Parfait, because screw all Type Moon fans! Ahaha Kidding, KIDDING … I’m not kidding.

I seem to be trapped in a prison of my own making. Please send help.

[Decay]

6 minutes ago, Rooke said:

From now on I’m going to apply full-proof logic and strong reasoning in my voting endeavours.

Which is why I voted for Parfait, because screw all Type Moon fans! Ahaha Kidding, KIDDING … I’m not kidding.

But for real, parfait looks good. I'll beat up any bullies who hate on you for that.

[Tenma]

3 hours ago, ChaosRaven said:

I'm fine with that, but does that mean that Silverio Vendetta 'sucks' because it just ended up on 4th place? Neither Silverio Vendetta nor Sakura no Uta have a translation, but everyone celebrates Sakura no Uta while nobody gives a damn about Silverio Vendetta. So my interpretaion is that people have indeed much more interest in school life VN's than VN's with other scenario's. That's pretty much just an observation. I thought it would be more the Japanese VN fans that prefer the scenario, but overall it looks like the wester VN scene isn't really different: School life VN's >> everything else.

But just a little ago you didn't know if you should vote on TsuriOtsu or Eustia... The first is just a normal School life VN with a cross-dress MC, while the later have a far more unique setting. By your logic you should have voted on Eustia, but you became lost on who to vote just because Tsuki ni Yorisou has Luna and she is "top waifu material"... you're being quite hypocritical here as you made the exactly same thing:

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Ugh, Eustia versus Tsuritso - that's a hard one. Two visual novels which are on my top ten list I absolutely have to read. Eustia is arguably August's best VN with a great medieval fantasy scenario. But Tsuriotsu has Luna, the ultimate kami heroine who won the Getchu character award three years in a row. Well I hope both finish first and second, I don't really care about the order. I want to see both getting translated.

Still, I guess Eustia will finish first because it's longer around and a lot of people, including me, want to see the fan translation get finished and the August curse finally get lifted. Though, I'd have to vote for Tsuriotsu or I'll get trouble with my waifu. lol

 

On the other hand Silverio Vendeta lose here makes perfect sense: Rance is already a well established series; Cross-channel is one of the most famous and well received VN; And in 1st place is Akagoei, who is know by : 1- Comedy as good, or even better, than Majikoi; 2- Grisaia was clearly inspired by Akagoei 3- One of the best MCs on a VN. Majikoi and Grisaia are really popular here, is no surprise that there are so many people that would vote on Akagoei, as everyone makes those comparations. You said about Luna winning  Getchu character award three years in a row but Kaito is the only male character who was able to rank there...

[Yuuko]

12 hours ago, ChaosRaven said:

I'm aware that's it's certainly much better than Ikikoi, however even if it's a very good VN, it's still a VN with a super generic school life scenario. There were several other very good and highly rated VN's like Hatsuyuki Sakura in the voting groups which weren't celebrated like the second coming of Fate/Stay Night.

Hatsuyuki Sakura is also generic school setting and it's hype has died over the years. Of course something that is still new has more hype around.

[Vorathiel]

13 hours ago, Down said:

Believe me, as far as I'm concerned generic school setting moege/whatever can eat shit, but there's a reason why SakuUta is currently my 2nd best rated VN on vndb.

Care to write some more on why did you liked it?

[Maxel]

Huh, can't wait for Baldr Force vs Baldr Sky xD I honestly don't see other result than Seeded in semis...

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[VirginSmasher]

17 minutes ago, Maxel said:

Huh, can't wait for Baldr Force vs Baldr Sky xD I honestly don't see other result than Seeded in semis...

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Baldr Sky would immediately win. Why would people vote Baldr Force if the precursor hasn't been translated? 

[Down]

58 minutes ago, Vorathiel said:

Care to write some more on why did you liked it?

Would be hard. It's not something that I have yet "digested" well enough that I can feel confident expressing in words why I feel about it the way I do.

I could cite a number of "generic" qualities: it's often hilarious, has an emotionally compelling overarching plot, cool characters, some very impactful scenes, sca-ji's characteristic erudition that he delivers in a simple and pleasant way. All the same it'd be easy to point out flaws: some annoying cliche sexist scenes, some scenes dragging on, Rin's and Makoto's route not being that great, etc...

But in the end I think what really makes this game special is the way it talks about Art. It's all about exposing various visions of art, often incarnated by various characters and the way they develop(ed). It's about the relationship between art and reality, perception, sublime, banal, original, mimesis and anti-mimesis.
And it's also about finding happiness, in a way.

If I felt like I grasped all of that in a more clear way I'd have written a review or a blog post about it but that'll probably only come in a long time.

[Kawasumi]

4 hours ago, Down said:

some annoying cliche sexist scenes,

hm, I heard that it had a completely different take on yuri and LGBT rights in general, which is part of why im hyped for it, I guess that didnt make it escape the cliché VN stuff afterall lol

[Down]

4 minutes ago, Kawasumi said:

hm, I heard that it had a completely different take on yuri and LGBT rights in general, which is part of why im hyped for it, I guess that didnt make it escape the cliché VN stuff afterall lol

Zypressen has a fairly uncommon take (a healthy one) on a yuri relationship compared to what you usually see in otaku subculture indeed, and that's refreshing to see. It's all the more disappointing when you see very basic bullshit like "men can't control themselves you should be careful!!" in hetero relationships. But it's not something that'll bother many people among VN readers and it's not a lot of scenes either.

[Maxel]

As predicted this closes the Group Stage.

Mahoyo got most votes out of all titles present.

I'm really glad that HoshiOri got at least 80+ votes  I'll probably update first post with statistics tomorrow.

For today, let's vote for Baldr, even though I accidentialy voted for RuiTomo, because I muffed it with Tsuriotsu xD Good job, me...

[Conjueror]

10 hours ago, VirginSmasher said:

Baldr Sky would immediately win. Why would people vote Baldr Force if the precursor hasn't been translated? 

Um, Baldr Force is the precursor, which is why it's so weird to me people rather seem to want to start their series in the middle with Sky.

[VirginSmasher]

1 minute ago, Conjueror said:

Um, Baldr Force is the precursor, which is why it's so weird to me people rather seem to want to start their series in the middle with Sky.

Stupid statement on my part. I'll just say that if Baldr Sky wins, it has a large fanbase behind it's release here in the west. If it's successful, then Baldr Force can be brought over. That's just how I see it though.

[CeruleanGamer]

Who cares? Bring over them Baldrs to the west. I dont care if its named Baldr Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. I'll still buy them!

<---- this person is one crazy Baldr fangirl

[Kawasumi]

Couldnt help myself but vote ruitomo, I like hino's scenarios a lot and this one has a trap and memes 

Sorry baldr, not this time 

[kingdomcome]

13 hours ago, Maxel said:

 

 

even though I accidentialy voted for RuiTomo,

lmao me too. I fail.

[VirginSmasher]

1 hour ago, Kawasumi said:

Couldnt help myself but vote ruitomo, I like hino's scenarious a lot and this one has a trap and memes 

Sorry baldr, not this time 

I mostly voted for Rui Timo because I'd rather have Baldr Sky translated than Baldr Force. It's gonna win anyways and face Baldr Sky which would be a interesting round 

[Kawasumi]

1 minute ago, VirginSmasher said:

I mostly voted for Rui Timo because I'd rather have Baldr Sky translated than Baldr Force. It's gonna win anyways and face Baldr Sky which would be a interesting round 

as a story canon whore I will whole heartedly disagree with you because baldr force is technically sky's predecessor.

[VirginSmasher]

22 minutes ago, Kawasumi said:

as a story canon whore I will whole heartedly disagree with you because baldr force is technically sky's predecessor.

Considering this tournament decides which VN is the most wanted, I wouldn't be surprised if either won. I just feel that if MangaGamer or Sekai Project picked it up, they'd pick up Baldr Sky first because it's more well known and then release Baldr Force. Kinda like how MangaGamer released Kara No Shoujo before Cartagra.

[Maxel]

14 hours ago, Conjueror said:

Um, Baldr Force is the precursor, which is why it's so weird to me people rather seem to want to start their series in the middle with Sky.

Doesn't Baldr Sky have upgraded battle system and was released 7 after Force? I think it would be better to hook people on both Dives then go for Force, or the newest "Baldr" https://vndb.org/v18783

After all it looks like we'll have Baldr showdown soon  

[Ayana]

I'm actually rooting for Baldr Sky to win despite what I said earlier (which was in a joking manner); I feel like its the most overall great game that everyone could enjoy and I still hold a fair amount of favoritism towards it like with the rest. The outcome of it winning is certainly more feasible than that of Akagoei winning that's for sure lol. I'd be just as delighted if any one of the other titles I mentioned in my earlier post won, but as I have a personal inclination to praise those works I also have a sort of personal inclination to the thought that Baldr Sky deserves to win this tournament.

[VirginSmasher]

21 minutes ago, Ayana said:

I'm actually rooting for Baldr Sky to win despite what I said earlier (which was in a joking manner); I feel like its the most overall great game that everyone could enjoy and I still hold a fair amount of favoritism towards it like with the rest. The outcome of it winning is certainly more feasible than that of Akagoei winning that's for sure lol. I'd be just as delighted if any one of the other titles I mentioned in my earlier post won, but as I have a personal inclination to praise those works I also have a personal inclination to the thought that Baldr Sky deserves to win this tournament.

It'll be difficult. It is a popular VN, but there's also Muramasa, Dies Irae, and a few others that people are craving as well. We'll just have to see who wins in the end. I'm rooting for Muramasa myself.

[Maxel]

4 hours ago, Ayana said:

I'm actually rooting for Baldr Sky to win despite what I said earlier (which was in a joking manner); I feel like its the most overall great game that everyone could enjoy and I still hold a fair amount of favoritism towards it like with the rest. The outcome of it winning is certainly more feasible than that of Akagoei winning that's for sure lol. I'd be just as delighted if any one of the other titles I mentioned in my earlier post won, but as I have a personal inclination to praise those works I also have a sort of personal inclination to the thought that Baldr Sky deserves to win this tournament.

This. Even though I love WA2, I can't disobey Baldr.

OP updated with my newest version, added some icons. Sakura no Uta ofc already won.

GoGo Oretsuba tomorrow. Bottom brackets will be way more interesting/close.

[Rose]

White Album's bracket seems to be the most balanced imo. Muramasa and Dies Irae are probably going to stomp their brackets though. >.>