Soulless Watcher Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Not sure if you guys are all aware of this, but I just stumbled on this today...... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalmanga/vanilla-essence-a-heartwarming-erotic-manga-anthol?ref=nav_search HOW THE FUCK DID THEY BYPASS KICKSTARTER'S MORALS POLICE? Was my first thought, than I saw the FAQ and understood. They are terrible at their job and that's why. Quote
Nosebleed Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 So SP could have Kickstarted Grisaia 18+ from the get go as long as they said it's "erotica" and "tells a story"? I love the way they phrase everything in this kickstarter to make it look like it's totally not just porn. Good job with PR guys. I've actually read vanilla essence, it's pretty good if you like vanilla (duh) but it's definitely still your standard hentai, just has some extra mushy romance in between the sex which is obviously the focus of a hentai manga. I think the biggest value of this KS is the uncensored art. Quote
Deep Blue Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 3 days in and they are already funded, How the heck did this get approved by Kickstarter?! The current connotation of pornography is to intend their audience with sexual stimulation. That is all. No type of literary value is focused. Hentai is considered as 'erotica,' it's main purpose is to tell a story with sexual arousal as a second thought and that is what gives this title a chance to be on kickstarter. How did I know? I didn't until I contacted Kickstarter about it and explained it to them what kind of project we planned to do. Their response was 'As long as it is not distasteful and offensive then your project is fine.' What is distasteful and offensive you say? We don't know until we find out. For this title, I know for a fact this will not be distasteful since this book is plain casual 'Vanilla'. =D Other good examples of these types of projects are 'Smut Peddler,' Tezuka's Swallowing the Earth and our yaoi Kickstarter "Finder restock" was able to pass due to the positive message and artistic value they carry. Vorathiel and Chronopolis 2 Quote
Nosebleed Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Probably got funded because nobody ever sees this kind of stuff on KS and they're just going "0mg boobz" over it, because in hentai terms, this manga isn't particularly outstanding. Would be hilarious if enough people pledged so that it ended up on the front page lol. If all hentai is labeled as erotica, according to this project, can't we just crowdfund any 18+ VN we want? I feel like people will abuse this and KS will start cracking down on it. Or they'll just continue being inconsistent with their rules. (Most likely scenario) Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted January 29, 2016 Author Posted January 29, 2016 Just goes to show how much of kickstarter is automated and how much is actually managed by people. I will be shocked if this project goes unhampered for another week. I guarantee as soon as the one guy who shifts through reported projects finally checks his email this will go straight into the bin. Quote
Dergonu Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Hey, we figured out why root double didnt do so well at the start ... This took all the money Quote
Narcosis Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Conclusion? Sekai Project is doing an god awful job with PM. Quote
Maxel Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 5 hours ago, Deep Blue said: 3 days in and they are already funded, How the heck did this get approved by Kickstarter?! The current connotation of pornography is to intend their audience with sexual stimulation. That is all. No type of literary value is focused. Hentai is considered as 'erotica,' it's main purpose is to tell a story with sexual arousal as a second thought and that is what gives this title a chance to be on kickstarter. How did I know? I didn't until I contacted Kickstarter about it and explained it to them what kind of project we planned to do. Their response was 'As long as it is not distasteful and offensive then your project is fine.' What is distasteful and offensive you say? We don't know until we find out. For this title, I know for a fact this will not be distasteful since this book is plain casual 'Vanilla'. =D Other good examples of these types of projects are 'Smut Peddler,' Tezuka's Swallowing the Earth and our yaoi Kickstarter "Finder restock" was able to pass due to the positive message and artistic value they carry. This one is better: What is the difference between hentai, borderline h, erotica, and ecchi? Hentai will feature explicit scenes strictly 18+ only. Borderline H and Erotica are practically the same thing, they feature sex scenes but it's not the focus since the author's intent is to tell a story. Ecchi is manga that's more like 'teases' but do not show any sexual scenes. Can't wait for "erotica visual novel" kickstarters. Quote
DarkZedge Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Well done kickstarter xD that's quality work if anything else Then again... Quote
Kawasumi Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Oh and I guess Sekai project just didnt want to "bother" finding out that they could just label it as such, we have a clear evidence here that its so easy to circumvent the kickstarter rules lol. This looks nice though and im gonna support it, mainly because every artist that distributes stuff by themselfs needs all the help they can get Quote
CeruleanGamer Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Show me boobs, show me sex, show me everything! Get rid of this censorship. Underneath these clothes, we are naked anyway. john 'mr. customer' smith and Kawasumi 2 Quote
kingdomcome Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Get out of here... Already funded and only a couple days in? Bad taste people... Quote
Nosebleed Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Outside of Fakku basically no other company is selling uncensored hentai manga in the west, there's a huge potential market in here. The prices are pretty fair too. I don't care about physical versions so I just get the digital DRM free version which saves me a ton of money in import taxes and I'm glad they make it an option. Kawasumi 1 Quote
DarkZedge Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 5 hours ago, firecat said: *looks at uncensored video* ditto Quote
OriginalRen Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Hey look, some losers are getting the original Hisasi lifesize oppai mousepad. Elena was better. Quote
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