LeonidasTan Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Hey guys. I'm looking for a translated english visual novels with debate actually in the plot and not just a side story. Thanks. Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Yumina the Ethereal The RPG mechanics are actually a visualization of debate battles, and during their attacks they shout out lines like "Your logic is flawed!" Quote
Mugi Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 KoiChoco, I guess? Although the politics are only really significant in a couple of the routes. Also (I haven't read it) I assume My Girlfriend is the President has some sort of debating in it. Oh, do courtroom cases count as debates? If so, Phoenix Wright is good too. Quote
Deep Blue Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 swan song, there are many debates, there is specially good one where they are talking about if killing a person is ok or not. Quote
Eclipsed Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Oh yeah, Yumina was about debates huh xD Danganronpa- high school trapped/isolated murder mystery where to "graduate" a student has to commit murder and get away with it in a Class Trial Ace Attorney- haven't played it, but it's a lawyer fest I OBJECT thingy Quote
LeonidasTan Posted February 28, 2016 Author Posted February 28, 2016 Thanks for the recommendations guys. 34 minutes ago, Mugi said: Also (I haven't read it) I assume My Girlfriend is the President has some sort of debating in it. Yeah it had that one debate scene debating their love for the protagonist and other current affairs matters although it wasn't actually a serious one. 34 minutes ago, sanahtlig said: Yumina the Ethereal The RPG mechanics are actually a visualization of debate battles, and during their attacks they shout out lines like "Your logic is flawed!" Sounds interesting. I'll give this one a try. Quote
Clephas Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 https://vndb.org/v16929 Too bad this isn't in English, lol. Quote
Mugi Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Clephas said: https://vndb.org/v16929 Too bad this isn't in English, lol. Is it just me, or do most of the girls in this look like they have the same face with different eye colors? Quote
Clephas Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mugi said: Is it just me, or do most of the girls in this look like they have the same face with different eye colors? It probably isn't your imagination. Quote
ittaku Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 2 hours ago, LeonidasTan said: Hey guys. I'm looking for a translated english visual novels with debate actually in the plot and not just a side story. Thanks. Odd, looking for a visual novel about debating. Normally we'd be debating about visual novels. LeonidasTan 1 Quote
Clephas Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 The problem is that, even irl, most people find debates uninteresting... weirdos like me like to read the transcripts, but most people don't even like to watch them live. Quote
Funyarinpa Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 4 hours ago, Deep Blue said: swan song, there are many debates, there is specially good one where they are talking about if killing a person is ok or not. 5 hours ago, sanahtlig said: Yumina the Ethereal The RPG mechanics are actually a visualization of debate battles, and during their attacks they shout out lines like "Your logic is flawed!" I'm sold SOLD I TELL YA Quote
Arcadeotic Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Well, I'm sure these have been mentioned, but: Yumina the Ethereal Koi to Senkyou to Chocolate These have great debate-based themes, you should try them Also Morighita Michiru, that is all Quote
LeonidasTan Posted February 28, 2016 Author Posted February 28, 2016 2 hours ago, ittaku said: Odd, looking for a visual novel about debating. Normally we'd be debating about visual novels. Easiest way for me to learn about debating since my school is making me part of a debate team and I know nothing about it Quote
Clephas Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Mm... to be honest, DS9 would be a definite recommendation for you if you could understand Japanese, because it is done in a pretty much classic debate format. Quote
Deep Blue Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 debates can be good and interesting or really bad and boring it all depends on the subject they are debating and if you like that subject in particular...for example koichoko debates are crap for me because they are all about the management of the school which is really boring (again for me) Quote
Clephas Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Well, debate as a 'sport' involves being assigned a 'position' on an 'issue' as a team and being required to defend it with both logical and emotional arguments, convincing the judges and/or audience of their position's correctness. In the case of 'sport' debates, you aren't given an option of which position to take, so you might find yourself defending a position you yourself don't believe in. The primary skill of a debater in this case is being able to consider the benefits of all sides, figure out in advance what arguments the other side is likely to use, and basically dismantle their logic while pressing yours. Incidentally, it can be said that most political debates are actually closer to this, as politicians are required by their desire to get elected to frequently take positions they might find personally objectionable. Quote
Deep Blue Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Well in Greece when they were teaching rhetoric they often made you defend something (a random subject was assigned to you) and then contra-argument what you said, the goal was to convince the ones who were testing you and see if you were able to convince them both way. Sadly or luckily depending the way you see it I had to study it for school since rhetoric is a big part of being a lawyer (not in the same way as in USA for example since there are no trials with juries here) Again I find the process really interesting but it all comes down to the subject itself that is being debated. Quote
CeruleanGamer Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 Tags you might be interested in on vndb if you love debates: Courtroom Battle of Wits Oh even though it's also Japanese, I had tons of laughs at this because of the parody and fourth wall breaking. https://vndb.org/v2941 Arcadeotic 1 Quote
DarkZedge Posted February 28, 2016 Posted February 28, 2016 That i know of, Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate has a lot of debate discussions aswell as actuall debates in the school itself but i'm not that knowledgeable in this particular thing. Debates that is Quote
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