do you consider VNs video games

[ratboi]

I personally don't. I mean I just don't see how they are video games.

[Ariurotl]

Yes

[Nosebleed]

2 minutes ago, Ariurotl said:

Yes

 

[WinterfuryZX]

yes

[john 'mr. customer' smith]

Please, not this again. Why do people care so much? Seriously, why?

[Eclipsed]

Because people in general are nitpicky nimrods that think the sky is falling just because color can also be spelled colour, or that Visual Novels can be classified as games, and that tsun tsuns are teh best

[Asonn]

No they are not fucking games, geez. It's goddamn literature! who am I kidding, I can't call it literature as a 2 year old could most of the time write a better and more insightful story than most VNs (moeges)  writers do. so I have no choice to call it a game. 

[mitchhamilton]

[Forgetful Frank]

I'm pretty conflicted. On one hand I do, and the other I kinda' don't.

I guess they are technically games, but I don't treat them as such. I think of them on what they're called: a 'Visual' 'Novel'. So a novel that has visual representations to go with it to help enhance the story in a way.

Some have more game-like features, but they're usually just what they are: a visual novel.

[sorasos]

Do you consider comics a book?

Same question idiot and not relevant

[Narcosis]

Does it even matter?

[Flutterz]

VNs are ＤＩＧＩＴＡＬ　ＳＰＯＲＴＳ

[tymmur]

I can't answer that without entering the debate: what is a video game? When I was first introduced to the term video games, it was my impression that it applied to consoles only and computer games was a whole different thing. Since then the difference has been a whole lot blurred (like the console stole the computer game feature of making savegames) and now I have no idea how to tell the difference between a video game and a computer game.

 

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do you consider VNs video games

I would say yes and no. It has game elements in it, like the goal to fill the history to unlock all screens and CGs in memory (or whatever the VN decides to call the review button). It has graphical properties of a game with sprite movements and stuff like that, though it would likely be more relevant to compare that to a movie. It has a bunch of voices (most of them anyway), which would also hint more at a movie. Last, but not least it has all the text, which would be considered a novel most of all.

 

I would say VNs are just that: VNs. They can't really be classified in any of the existing categories because it has features from multiple categories, but not enough to classify it in any of those. We could start to talk about calling them games if we add a dungeon crawler game or something similar to it, but then we have to debate how much you can add and still call it a VN.

8 minutes ago, Narcosis said:

Does it even matter?

Not really to me. VNs are VNs. That's how it is to me and I don't really care how other people view it. Because VNs are partly multiple different things people will forever debate which one they are and they will likely never agree.

[Dergonu]

Just now, Flutterz said:

VNs are ＤＩＧＩＴＡＬ　ＳＰＯＲＴＳ

And the 18+ versions makes for even more exercise opportunities

 

On a serious note, my answer is yes. It is basically a book, but in the end, it is a program that is run and "played" by you on a computer. That basically means it's a video game, even if the only thing you do is click the screen to advance the text.

[ratboi]

46 minutes ago, sorasos said:

Do you consider comics a book?

Same question idiot and not relevant

I consider comics a book XD

[Darklord Rooke]

No, I don't consider them games.

[Silvz]

2 hours ago, sorasos said:

Do you consider comics a book?

are they?

[Darklord Rooke]

1 minute ago, Silvz said:

are they?

Comics are those 4 panel strips you find in the newspaper.

So no, they're not  

[wyldstrykr]

ive seen this question many times so im sure my answer is yes and no depends on the vn even though i keep switching it

[shadowolf64]

Kinda, I guess. I mean they are listed and talked about on video gaming websites I visit and they are typically interactive. On the other hand they are pretty different than other genres so they kinda stand out as something more similar to manga or books. There are some games coming out that either take from visual novels or straddle the line between what I would consider a visual novel and a "regular" game. 

So I guess after thinking about it yes but I can also see them being different.

[Onodera Punpun]

yes

[andzalot55]

The better question is "do you read VNs or watch VNs."

[Flutterz]

1 minute ago, andzalot55 said:

The better question is "do you read VNs or watch VNs."

Or "play VNs"

[Silvz]

Better question: do you consider VNs porn?

[Rime]

This is really something that would depend on the person. Personally, I consider VNs to be their own form of media which is very close to a book, maybe even one of those choose-your-own-adventure books, but is different enough to warrant a different name. Calling it a game would imply that there is much more of an interactive element, but given that it is computer software it seems rather difficult to separate it from the same category that "games" get lumped into.

I would probably call it a game in the same sense that I would call The Beginner's Guide a game. It has elements of games, but those elements only serve as a mechanism to tell the story, which is the payoff. Contrast this with a game like Antichamber, where the story is just a metaphor for the game being played and is only a part of the experience, with the rest being filled with the logic and puzzle-driven gameplay.

2 minutes ago, Silvz said:

Better question: do you consider VNs porn?

...or we could go that route.