sanahtlig Posted August 3, 2016 Posted August 3, 2016 Nutaku has a long history of undisclosed censorship, but this is surprisingly little known among eroge fans. DMCA abuses suggest a deliberate cover-up. Nutaku caught abusing DMCA takedowns to censor evidence of censorship DharmaFreedom, Narcosis, Darklord Rooke and 9 others 12 Quote
Mkilbride Posted August 3, 2016 Posted August 3, 2016 And these are the people who want to create the "Uncensored" Steam for VNs? Quote
Narcosis Posted August 3, 2016 Posted August 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mkilbride said: And these are the people who want to create the "Uncensored" Steam for VNs? It's just business; there are no ulterior motives behind it. "Fighting censorship"? They seem to be on the verge of not wanting to be treated seriously. Quote
DarkZedge Posted August 3, 2016 Posted August 3, 2016 Wouldn't surprise me if it did turn out to be a deliberate cover up of their shenanigansm, even if they got away with this way of covering their asses it'd  make the community or market like them more or care about them more either. Quote
Suzu Fanatic Posted August 3, 2016 Posted August 3, 2016 Only had time to glance over it for now, but my main take away: They fear getting in trouble with the law, for working on material that is considered illegal on their home turf. I mean, even if they cut out and censor it, if the subject matter is illegal there - aren't they in breach just through possession? Sounds to me like they are trying to cover their asses. But I have no experience or education when it comes to localizations - maybe companies are granted immunity to such import laws, on the basis the content is to be modified? Â The whole MIND dark-overlord is possible, but I question if they even monitor any one business under them that closely. Quote
Nosebleed Posted August 3, 2016 Posted August 3, 2016 I don't know who thought it'd be great to have an eroge company based in Canada. XReaper, Flutterz, Suzu Fanatic and 5 others 8 Quote
DarkZedge Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Nosebleed said: I don't know who thought it'd be great to have an eroge company based in Canada. RIP in Canada. Quote
sanahtlig Posted August 4, 2016 Author Posted August 4, 2016 A Reddit user has reported that I've been shadowbanned on Twitter. Â That's... interesting.https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4w0zna/censorship_nutaku_caught_abusing_dmca_takedowns/d63mpmehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/10/30/a-guide-to-why-some-activists-believe-their-tweets-are-being-censored-in-the-u-s/ Quote
Tyr Posted August 4, 2016 Posted August 4, 2016 Sanahtlig's article has been posted and discussed in several communities, but I feel many people don't understand the actual point Sanah wanted to make. The main point isn't that Nutaku has censored their games (this is old news); it's the cover-up. They don't want people to know that they've EVER censored their games. Actually, I believe Nutaku when they say they won't censor anymore. But only time will tell, we can't make assumptions yet. No, the point of Sanah's article is this: Nutaku wants to clear its name, tarnished by their own hands. They don't want to be associated with censorship. And to do that, they use every option at their disposal, ethical or not: Never announcing when games are censored or what was censored Making up payment processor issues that don't seem to impact other Western eroge companies, or that they've even mentioned, ever Complaining to Sanah when they stealth-reverted the censorship and he dared to still feature the game in his censorship list DMCA takedown for Sanah's perfectly legit comparison gallery on imgur Not fessing up to the takedown and ignoring Sanah's inquiries about it They don't want to talk about this. They simply don't want "Nutaku" and "Censorship" to be mentioned in the same sentence. But now Sanah exposed this behavior. And what are they doing? Being Nutaku of course: Implying Sanahtlig tampered with evidence Making up weak excuses Sanah had already proven wrong in his article Telling Reddit and Operation Rainfall that they took down the gallery .. because it wasn't linked to a review!? That doesn't even make any sense! To summarize the issues that Sanah tried to expose in his article, Nutaku: has not been transparent about changes in their games Silences people who associate Nutaku with censorship Lies and selfishly cover-up evidence to hide that I hope I could clear up some of these misunderstandings. I feel people are taking away very superficial impressions, on both sides of the debate. But the actual message is probably best condensed in the title of Sanahtlig's article: "Nutaku caught abusing DMCA takedowns to censor evidence of censorship". And that's what people should be aware of. XReaper, sanahtlig, Darklord Rooke and 3 others 6 Quote
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