XReaper Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 As the title suggests, after what feels like an era of ruthless opression through the modern and cute, studio Gainax in comradeship with the korean publisher CFK finally decided on maning up against todays filth, bringing over the horrendously adorable "Princess Maker 2 Refine" for a mere sum of 19,99$, even willing to offer a 20 percentual discount to the fast and utmost longing. Rejoice! edit: seems its sales-numbers will determine if a possible release of the series later installments might become a reality as well, something which hasn´t been ruled out by the ones responsible as of yet.http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/373/1373026/ Suzu Fanatic, Narcosis, x2l2 and 7 others 10 Quote
DarkZedge Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 You could've made the title a bit shorter Reap no idea as to what this is but doesn't really look like my kind of thing. Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 On 9/22/2016 at 7:57 PM, DarkZedge said: no idea as to what this is but doesn't really look like my kind of thing. Expand It's one of the classic 'raising sims' the West never got. I'll be picking this up, for sure. Suzu Fanatic and XReaper 2 Quote
sanahtlig Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 Did anyone else notice the Engrish? Not good. A Korean publisher for a Japanese company? What? Is this what Steam has come to be? A dumping ground for those who don't understand English well enough to care about basic diction? So Japanese companies just hire the cheapest contractors they can find to shave localization costs to a minimum? Infernoplex 1 Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 Going by the video, the worst part is the beginning bit ... which is the bit everyone will ignore. The daily descriptions are phrased poorly, but considering it's an 80s game and that's the sort of English that everybody was accustomed to in 80s games xD. The dialogue looks okay, as in not good but serviceable. It's definitely not a good translation, but probably serviceable for what it is and how big the audience will be. I can live with it in this instance. However, it'd be bad if it were actually a novel and not a sim with a lot of gameplay 0.0 Quote
XReaper Posted September 22, 2016 Author Posted September 22, 2016 On 9/22/2016 at 8:55 PM, sanahtlig said: So Japanese companies just hire the cheapest contractors they can find to shave localization costs to a minimum? Expand i refuse to abandon my believes of gainax non pouring every available ressources of theirs into the making of evangelions final movie, so in case princess maker helps contributing towards said goal i shall buy it even if it´s written in broken suwaheli. btw. i´ve seen worse, read worse & paid alot more (non trying to justify/whiteknight anything here) Vorathiel and granit 2 Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 On 9/22/2016 at 9:10 PM, XReaper said: i refuse to abandon my believes of gainax non pouring every available ressources of theirs into the making of evangelions final movie. Expand Ugh, why didn't Evangelion die 20 years ago like it should've xD Soulless Watcher 1 Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 Fuck yeah, I love a good raising sim and I absolutely adore the few older Japanese games I have been able to play. Shame about the translation though, but as long as I can comprehend what is going on I'll take what I can get. On 9/22/2016 at 8:55 PM, sanahtlig said: Is this what Steam has come to be? A dumping ground for those who don't understand English well enough to care about basic diction? Expand Well with the garbage that gets through the greenlight process steam is pretty much a dumping ground period. Quote
Infernoplex Posted September 22, 2016 Posted September 22, 2016 On 9/22/2016 at 9:40 PM, Soulless Watcher said: Well with the garbage that gets through the greenlight process steam is pretty much a dumping ground period. Expand It's the issue with the Steam's Quality Control. Quote
SilverLi Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 A bit too old for my taste. But I am giving it a try. I have been looking at the Princess Maker titles for ages. Nothing beats a well made raising sim. Quote
XReaper Posted September 23, 2016 Author Posted September 23, 2016 On 9/23/2016 at 12:42 AM, SilverLi said: A bit too old for my taste. But I am giving it a try. I have been looking at the Princess Maker titles for ages. Nothing beats a well made raising sim. Expand like i did already mention in the edits above, gainax & companions are not against bringing over the rest of the series as well, means more new installments, but i believe this solely depends on how good this one might do on steam. btw. i´ve not lost my faith as of yet, that a good revenue might also get them putting more efforts into translating future works on a satisfactionary level, i´m a hopelessly naive fuck i know, i know... Quote
purplerocks2015 Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 I'm really really hoping that Princess Maker 4 and 5 to finally get the translation it deserves, even if the english will be awkward so I hope to god this released for princess maker 2 goes well. As long as the translation isn't Blood Code/Oblivious Garden level bad, I can take some awkward translation. Quote
Mr Poltroon Posted September 23, 2016 Posted September 23, 2016 Sounds great... Let's say this is my first time trying out a game of this type (it effectively isn't, but let's say it is). Would this be a good entry point? Quote
Tyr Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 On 9/22/2016 at 8:44 PM, Rooke said: It's one of the classic 'raising sims' the West never got. I'll be picking this up, for sure. Expand ... but we actually got Princess Maker 2... That said, I'm wondering if this version is using the old translation (which I don't remember anymore aside from being perfectly fine for the time it was released) or if they are using a new one. But as it certainly can't be better than the original, I don't see any benefit in buying this version. I can't find any information on what makes the "Refine"d edition better than the original. They should have released another game in the series English speaker haven't already played instead. On 9/22/2016 at 9:12 PM, Rooke said: Ugh, why didn't Evangelion die 20 years ago like it should've xD Expand 19 years! End of Evangelion was released in 1997! (And it better had been the End...) Darklord Rooke and sanahtlig 2 Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 On 9/24/2016 at 12:14 PM, Tyrosyn said: ... but we actually got Princess Maker 2... Expand 0.0 I didn't know this. Don't know how I missed it Quote
sanahtlig Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 According to Wikipedia: Quote Princess Maker 2 is the second installment in the Princess Maker series of life simulation games developed by the Japanese company Gainax. It has been translated into Korean and Chinese; an English-language beta version exists, but was never formally released. Expand Quote
Infernoplex Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 A little bit of googling brought me this: http://www.abandonia.com/games/181/ Screenshots are in English so I guess that's the English-language beta version xD Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 On 9/24/2016 at 9:09 PM, Infernoplex said: A little bit of googling brought me this: http://www.abandonia.com/games/181/ Screenshots are in English so I guess that's the English-language beta version xD Expand Well I'll be the first transgender nun on a pilgrimage to convert ISIS, shame it dosn't seem to want to work on windows 7 (at lest for me). How much you want to bet that this version has better English than the upcoming release? Quote
Infernoplex Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) On 9/24/2016 at 10:40 PM, Soulless Watcher said: Well I'll be the first transgender nun on a pilgrimage to convert ISIS, shame it dosn't seem to want to work on windows 7 (at lest for me). How much you want to bet that this version has better English than the upcoming release? Expand Ofcourse it doesn't work on Windows 7 xD Look at the time when the game was released. You need DOSBox to run this game on Windows 7, I will try running it later Edit: Okay, I have tested it, it works, I can confirm that I can run it through DOSBox on Windows 7 64-bit and here are some screenshots from the game (English confirmed) Edited September 25, 2016 by Infernoplex Tyr 1 Quote
Nandemonai Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 Somewhere on the net there's a post-mortem from the guys who were originally planning on releasing it all those years ago. I know I read it. I don't remember anything that was in it, unfortunately. It was very close to release, but was cancelled. The beta floating around is a leak, but it's said to be nearly complete. Tyr 1 Quote
Soulless Watcher Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 On 9/24/2016 at 11:31 PM, Infernoplex said: Ofcourse it doesn't work on Windows 7 xD Look at the time when the game was released. You need DOSBox to run this game on Windows 7, I will try running it later Expand I had a feeling that might have something to do with it, reminds me of a joke that one of my coworkers told me that completely flew over my head. He asked me how to run the new Doom on windows 3.0 . Nandemonai 1 Quote
Infernoplex Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 On 9/25/2016 at 12:28 AM, Soulless Watcher said: I had a feeling that might have something to do with it, reminds me of a joke that one of my coworkers told me that completely flew over my head. He asked me how to run the new Doom on windows 3.0 . Expand Ahahaha I made some screenshots from in-game (posted as an edit in my previous post) but honestly, this is not my cup of tea, I am not into raising simulations. Though I can definitvely see reasons why some people like this type of games. Quote
Tyr Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 @Infernoplex Thank you for providing these screenshots. With this, we can say with certainty that the Refine release has a new translation which is far inferior to the old one. At this point I see no reason in buying the Steam release. Well, aside from financing the potential release of other entries in the series of course. Oh boy, I feel I have seen this many times before: >releasing an inferior version of something that is already available >number of sales will decide whether other (actual new) games will also be released >"Sales fell short of expectations. Apparently nobody wants this." Nandemonai 1 Quote
Infernoplex Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 @Tyrosyn - No problem though I can't say anything about the translation xD From what I have seen it looks fine to me but they apparently call it a leaked beta so I can't confirm if everything is good till the end. On 9/25/2016 at 12:34 AM, Tyrosyn said: Oh boy, I feel I have seen this many times before: >releasing an inferior version of something that is already available >number of sales will decide whether other (actual new) games will also be released >"Sales fell short of expectations. Apparently nobody wants this." Expand This has proven to be true in so many cases. Quote
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