Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) After a lot of personal and joke lists that people posted, I decided to post the stuff that we debated on @Silvz original post, this list will not be limited to any genre (being Nukige the only genre excluded) and it works as an addition to @Kaguya's original list. With that in mind, let's cut right to the chase: 1-"When they cry" series: Installments: Spoiler Higurashi no Naku Koro ni (Kai) NOTE: Higurashi no Naku Koro ni and Kai are two halfs of the same story. Lenght: First Half: 30-50h, Second Half (Kai): 50h+ (Not counting Extra arcs) Umineko no Naku Koro ni (Chiru) NOTE: Umineko no Naku Koro ni and Chiru are two halfs of the same story. Lenght: Both Halfs: 50h+ (Not counting Extra arcs) Notable Tags: ALL Three Mystery tags (Murder Mystery, Mystery and Multiple Route Mystery), Kinetic Novel, Denpa. 2-CLANNAD Length: 50h+ (Main Game+After Story) Notable Tags: Nakige, Life and Death Drama, Central Heroine. 3-Lucy ~The Eternity She Wished For~ Length: 3-10h Notable Tags: Nakige, Robot Heroine, No Sexual Content. 4-The House in Fata Morgana Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Mystery, Passage of Time, Western-style Mansion 5-Subahibi Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Strong Female Protagonist, Philosophy, Mystery and Multiple Route Mystery. 6-Dies Irae Length: 50h+ Notable Tags: Multiple Route Mystery, Chuunige, Battle Royale. 7-Analogue Series Installments: Spoiler Digital: A Love Story Lenght: 2-10h NOTE: Has a different style of VN story-telling with a OS simualtion. Analogue: A Hate Story Length: 2-10h Hate Plus Lenght: 2-10h Honorable MentionsDon't Take it Personally, Babe, it Just ain't Your Story Length: 2-10h Cell Phone Love Letter Length: 2h- Notable Tags: Future, Science Fiction, Player as a Character. 8-Doki Doki Literature Club! Length: Around 5h Notable Tags: Poetry, Student Club, No Sexual Content. NOTE: May not be what it seems to be, so it is strongly recommend that you go "blind". 9-Zero Escape Series Installments: Spoiler 999 (Zero Escape 1) Length: around 15h. Virtue's Last Reward (Zero Escape 2) Length: 30-40h Zero Time Dilemma (Zero Escape 3) Length: 30-40h NOTE: Is not considered a VN by some, BUT, is just as story driven as the other, it just uses a sort of "Interactive Movie" type of format, instead of a "Novel" format. Notable Tags: ALL Three Mystery tags (Murder Mystery, Mystery and Multiple Route Mystery), Metafiction, Interactive Adventure Game. 10-If My Heart Had Wings/A Sky Full of Stars (Shared Setting) Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Slice of Life Drama, Airplane (IMHW), Astronomy Club (A Sky Full of Stars), Charage\Moege. NOTE: Moenovel censored lines of IMHW, get the restoration patches if possible. 11-Wagamama High Specs Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Romance, Charage\Moege, Design Story. 12-Dal Segno Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Fictional Modern Day Japanese Island, Romance, Moege. 13-Hatsukoi 1/1 Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Friendship, Pure Love Story\Romance, Charage. 14-Lucid9 Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Mystery and Murder Mystery, Private Detective Protagonist, Romance. NOTE: Only Common route released as of yet, but, has enough repercusion to be recommended. 15-Flowers Series Installments: Spoiler Flowers -Le Volume sur Printemps- Length: 10-30 Flowers -Le Volume sur Été- Length: 10-30 NOTE: Only these two are translated of yet. Notable Tags: Girls Love Only, Romance, Plants & Flowers. 16-Kindred Spirits Lenght: 10-30h Notable Tags: Shoujo Ai\Yuri, Linear Plot, School Life Comedy. 17-Kana ~Imouto~ Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Passage of Time, Utsuge, Life and Death Drama\Drama. 18-My Girlfriend is the President Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Tongue-in-cheek\Comedy\Parody, Romance, Politician Heroine. 19-DRAMAtical Murder Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Boys Love Only, Cyberpunk, Fictional Island Near Future Japan. 20-Lamento ~Beyond the Void~ Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Shounen Ai\Yaoi, Apocalypse, Magic. 21-Enigma: Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Forest, Terminal Illness, Fantasy. 22-Kara no Shoujo Series Installments: Spoiler Cartagra (Prequel) Lenght: 10-30h Kara no Shoujo Lenght: 10-30h Kara no Shoujo - The Second Episode Lenght: 30-50h The other prequel Pianissimo and its Fandisc is not translated as of yet. Notable Tags: ALL Three Mystery tags (Murder Mystery, Mystery and Multiple Route Mystery), Detective Work, 50's. 23-Hakuouki Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Otome Game, Past Japan, Edo Era. 24-Cho Dengeki Stryker Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Enforced Playing Order, Unique Routes, Superheroes. 25-Hatoful Boyfriend Length: 2-10h Notable Tags: BL (Bird's Love), Birds, Interracial Romance. 26-Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Lost Technology, Slice of Life Drama, Unlockable Routes. 27-Tokyo Babel Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Christian Mythology, Transhumanism\Superpowers\Action, Multiple Route Mystery (+Unique Routes). 28-Campus Notes: Forget me Not Length: 2-10h Notable Tags: University, Science Fiction, Mystery. 29-Euphoria Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Trapped, Sex Under the Necessity, High Sexual Content. NOTE: Controversial Story, NOT for everyone, read with a open mind. 30-Gahkthun of the Golden Lightning Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: 20th Century, Steampunk, Linear Plot. 31-Grisaia Series Installments: Spoiler Grisaia no Kajitsu (Side Story: Grisaia no Yuukan) Length: 50h+ Grisaia no Meikyuu (Side Stories: Grisaia no Senritsu\Grisaia no Zankou) Length: 10-30h NOTE: This is different from the original, since it is a collection of stories that sets up for the sequel (Next Installment). Grisaia no Rakuen Length: 10-30h Honorable MentionsGrisaia: Phantom Trigger Length: On Going Idol Mahou Shoujo Chiruchiru ☆ Michiru Length: 2-10h NOTE: Both happens on the same setting but are not sequels, they are also Kinetic Novels, so no choices here. Notable Tags: Same Roof, Military, High School. 32-Science Adventure Series Installments: Spoiler Chaos;Head Length: 10-30h (Original Version, the alternative "Noah" version probably has more hours considering it has Heroine Routes added.) Chaos;Child Length: 50h+ NOTE: The "Chaos" part of the series has very distinct themes that are very different from the following "Steins" series. Steins;Gate Length: 30-50h Steins;Gate 0 Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Science Fiction, ALL Three Mystery tags (Murder Mystery, Mystery and Multiple Route Mystery), Conspiracy. 33-Root Double -Before Crime * After Days- Length: 50h+ Notable Tags: Trapped, ALL Three Mystery tags (Murder Mystery, Mystery and Multiple Route Mystery), Suspense. 34-Guilty Crown Lost Christmas Length: 2-10h Notable Tags: Action, Superpowers, Apocalypse. NOTE: Prequel to anime. 35-Planetarian Length: 3h+ Notable Tags: Post Apocalyptic Earth\Future Earth, Utsuge\Nakige, Kinetic Novel. 36-VA-11 HALL-A Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Bar, Cyberpunk, Simulation Game. 37-Everlasting Summer Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Russian Protagonist, USSR, Summer Camp. 38-Utawarerumono Series Installments: Spoiler Utawarerumono Length: 10-30h Utawarerumono: The False Faces Length: 30-50h Utawarerumono: Mask of Truth Length: 50h+ Notable Tags: RPG\SRPG\Turn Based Strategy Game, War, Fictional World. 39-Ladykiller in a Bind Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: LGBTQ, Cross-dressing, Modern Day. 40-Cinders Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Fairy Tale, Past Setting in a Fictional World, Strong Female Protagonist. 41-Solstice Length: 2-10h Notable Tags: Secret Society, Mystery and Murder Mystery, Medical Doctor Protagonist. 42-Break Chance Memento Length: 2-10h Notable Tags: Time Travel\Science Fiction, ALL Three Mystery tags (Murder Mystery, Mystery and Multiple Route Mystery) (+Homicide), Boys Love Only. 43-Cursed Sight Length: 2-10h Notable Tags: Temple, Past Setting in a Fictional World, No Sexual Content. 43-The Royal Trap: The Confines Of The Crown Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Politics, Proactive Protagonist\Strong Female Protagonist, Otome Game. 44-Mystic Messenger Length: 50h+ Notable Tags: Otome Game, Operating System Simulation, Portrait Orientation. 45-Karakara series Installments: Spoiler Karakara Length: 2-10h Karakara 2 Length: 2-10h Notable Tags: Slice of Life Comedy\Same Roof, Cafe, Lost Technology\Post Apocalyptic Earth. 46-Dandelion/Nameless (Shared Setting) Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Otome Game, Modern Day Korea (Nameless), Drama, Interracial Romance (Dandelion), Fantasy (Dandelion). 47-Sepia Tears Length: 2-10h Notable Tags: Linear Plot, Romance, No Sexual Content. 48-CUPID Length: 2-10h Notable Tags: Revenge, Gothic Romance, Horror. 49-Corpse Party Series Installments: Spoiler Corpse Party BloodCovered Length: 10-30h Corpse Party: Book of Shadows Length: 10-30h Corpse Party: BloodDrive Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Horror, Life and Death Drama, Curse. NOTE: RPG Maker inspired, has map movement, escape sequences and exploration. 50-Hustle Cat Length: 2-10h Notable Tags: Cafe, Both Male and Female Love Interests+LGBTQ, Fantasy. BONUS GAME: 51-Himawari -The Sunflower- Length: 30-50h Notable Tags: Science Fiction, Philosophy, Existential Crisis. 52-Infinity series: Installments: Spoiler Never 7 Length: 30-50h Ever 17 Length: 30-50h Remember 11 Length: 10-30h Notable Tags: Science Fiction, Mystery & Multiple Route Mystery, Mind Screw. 53-Fault -Milestone- Series: Installments: Spoiler Fault -Milestone One- Length: 2-10h Fault Milestone Two Side:Above Length: 2-10h Fault - Silence the Pedant Length: TBA Honorable MentionsMhakna Gramura and Fairy Bell Length: 2h- Notable Tags: Science Fantasy, Magic, Fictional World. Honorable Mentions: Kagetsu Tohya & Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, Good fandisc that require original games to be completed. Gyakuten Saiban, still has a lot of heated discussions on whether the Ace Attorney is a VN. 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Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 After a lot of personal and joke lists, I decided to post a W.I.P version of the things we decided on the original post by @Silvz. I'll heavily edit it, just posted the base. Quote
Mr Poltroon Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 Incidentally, length is spelled length. Zander 1 Quote
Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr Poltroon said: Incidentally, length is spelled length. Fixed. Quote
Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 Any Tag suggestions, or any thoughts on why a specific VN should be on this list is appreciated. Quote
Stormwolf Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na.. I found this interesting at first glance, but i see it's just a censored version. Is it really worth it? Quote
Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Stormwolf said: Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na.. I found this interesting at first glance, but i see it's just a censored version. Is it really worth it? It wasn't me that requested the game, but, from what I know it seems to have a really good story and it is remarkable for having variety of different heroines n' such. Quote
Stormwolf Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 Variety means nothing though, if the censorship ruins what the game really wants to portray. I mean, some vn's are about romance, but are terrible at it (outside sex) Quote
Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Stormwolf said: Variety means nothing though, if the censorship ruins what the game really wants to portray. I mean, some vn's are about romance, but are terrible at it (outside sex) I dunno where you're getting at, but, patch only works for the all-ages version, that doesn't necessarily that the game is censored, only that the sex scenes are left out (also the game have low-sex content according to VNDB, the romance and character development str still there but the H-scenes are not, the only big difference is the sex content the rest is probably left intact, but what do I know?) @Tamaki Sakura should be able to answer, since (I'm assuming) they read the VN. Edited January 5, 2018 by Guest Quote
Stormwolf Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 Well, the question still stands though. What's left when the h scenes are carved out? 18+ version was the first version released, otherwise this would be a non issue. Quote
Guest Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Stormwolf said: Well, the question still stands though. What's left when the h scenes are carved out? 18+ version was the first version released, otherwise this would be a non issue. Oh, I understand your point, but, for now I recommend waitin' for a person that played the VN to answer (I mentioned tamaiki, so they should see the post). Edited January 5, 2018 by Guest Quote
Mr Poltroon Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, Stormwolf said: Well, the question still stands though. What's left when the h scenes are carved out? 18+ version was the first version released, otherwise this would be a non issue. I've played a couple of routes. This is a port to a console that was then backported into PC. On the transition to console new routes were added (which, therefore, never had any H-Scenes in them). This was then backported into PC, but it seems no version of the console release exists with H. That's how much they couldn't be bothered to write those scenes, I suppose. As for what I thought of what I did play? I'm not sure. I think this game would have been better with H-Scenes. Or maybe not. I unfortunately did not like it as much as I wanted to. That's why I never finished it. I felt the H had something to do with it, as I felt there was no way for the characters to show affection, but there were a bunch of such scenes (just not sexual), so I don't know why I didn't like it. Quote
chikadox Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 9 hours ago, SeniorBlitz said: BL (Bird's Love), thanks for the list!!!!!! (=ↀωↀ=) Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, chikadox said: thanks for the list!!!!!! (=ↀωↀ=) It is still a W.I.P, so, feel free to recommend anything new for the list (as long as it is not repeated from the original list). Edited January 6, 2018 by Guest Quote
Tamaki Sakura Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Stormwolf said: Well, the question still stands though. What's left when the h scenes are carved out? 18+ version was the first version released, otherwise this would be a non issue. New date/kissing scenes were written to replace the H-scenes from the 18+ version, and given accompanying CG. Edited January 6, 2018 by Tamaki Sakura Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 Just now, Tamaki Sakura said: New date/kissing scenes were written to replace the H-scenes from the 18+ version, and given accompanying CG. Thank You, that issue is officially solved. Quote
Sparteh Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 I think you should edit "when they cry" section a bit. First, I would recommend to list all VNs that belong to these series. Reasoning: if someone actually uses your list they will most likely ether have read these series or be a noobie. New people would like to know such things. Furthermore, if you were a new reader would you pick something that would have been listed as 150+ hours long? Oh, one more thing. If I were you I would split it into Higurashi and Umineko and list approximate length of each story Dreamysyu 1 Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Sparteh said: I think you should edit "when they cry" section a bit. First, I would recommend to list all VNs that belong to these series. Reasoning: if someone actually uses your list they will most likely ether have read these series or be a noobie. New people would like to know such things. Furthermore, if you were a new reader would you pick something that would have been listed as 150+ hours long? Oh, one more thing. If I were you I would split it into Higurashi and Umineko and list approximate length of each story Done. NOTE: It is not really "my" list, since, it was made with the help of other people on the original post. Edited January 6, 2018 by Guest Quote
Sparteh Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, SeniorBlitz said: Done. NOTE: It is not really "my" list, since, it was made with the help of other people on the original post. From my point of view, the list belongs to the one who actually added it to the post It is much easier to refer to it that way. Btw, have the remaining 20 spots been decided? If not, might I be able to suggest a few VNs? I assume that only those not mentioned in original top 50 list count Edited January 6, 2018 by Sparteh Quote
MaggieROBOT Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Sparteh said: Might I be able to suggest a few VNs? I assume that only those not mentioned in original top 50 list count Please do. And yeah, try not to repeat things. Another thing regarding the "when they cry" series, since I don't know much about it. Is "Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni" a complete separate thing? Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Sparteh said: Btw, have the remaining 20 spots been decided? If not, might I be able to suggest a few VNs? I assume that only those not mentioned in original top 50 list count 'course mate, feel free to suggests anything that you think is a good door to the VN genre (any genre, with the exception of Nukige and it also needss to be translated). Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 1 minute ago, MaggieROBOT said: Please do. And yeah, try not to repeat things. Another thing regarding the "when they cry" series, since I don't know much about it. Is "Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni" a complete separate thing? Yes, it is a complete different story, WAY shorter than the "When They Cry" series. Gonna edit the Zero Escape series brb. Quote
Sparteh Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 Let me see: Steins;Gate 0 - original has Steins;Gate, so not sure if we can count it, but will add it just in case. Chaos;Child - it has English version, and PC patch should be released soon. Fate/Hollow Ataraxia - probably the best translated fandisk. Grisaia series - at least I don't see it in any list so far. Root Double Guilty Crown Lost Christmas - Phenomeno made it to the original list and it was an adaptation of LN. This one is the prequel to anime (much like Fate/Zero to Fate franchise). It was released by Nitroplus and contains original GC soundtrack aka one of the best soundtrack in anime industry. Here is a demo I found on youtube: Spoiler Quote
Guest Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Sparteh said: Let me see: Steins;Gate 0 - original has Steins;Gate, so not sure if we can count it, but will add it just in case. Chaos;Child - it has English version, and PC patch should be released soon. Fate/Hollow Ataraxia - probably the best translated fandisk. Grisaia series - at least I don't see it in any list so far. Root Double Guilty Crown Lost Christmas - Phenomeno made it to the original list and it was an adaptation of LN. This one is the prequel to anime (much like Fate/Zero to Fate franchise). It was released by Nitroplus and contains original GC soundtrack aka one of the best soundtrack in anime industry. Here is a demo I found on youtube: Reveal hidden contents Actually Might as well include the science ADV series in the format we presented for the Zero Escape and when they cry series, BUT, noting that the Chaos and Steins series have different themes. About F/HA I think we should discuss whether to include fandiscs or not, since they require the original game. Yeah I will Include Grisaia and Root Double. I well reasearch about Guilty Crow (is there a VNDB page to it?). NOTE: Sorry for the late response I'm cleaning my humble abode. Edited January 6, 2018 by Guest Quote
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