Would you still continue reading VNs if, starting from today, all H-scenes were banned?

[Dreamysyu]

4 hours ago, MaggieROBOT said:

Just need to look for doujin manga between the reads yeah.

Do you think, in this messed up world from my imagination, they would annihilate eroge and spare doujin manga?

Edited February 8, 2018 by Dreamysyu

[Plk_Lesiak]

17 minutes ago, Dreamysyu said:

Do you think, in this messed up world from my imagination, they would annihilate eroge and spare doujin manga?

So it's basically a scenario in which @Okami is the God-Emperor of Earth?

[Thatcomicguy]

I have a feeling if that ever got banned, dev's would still find a work around. Even if it's something Koi to Senkyo to Chocolate has were not all of the sex scenes are CG's, but sometimes just the characters portraits and descriptive dialogue. like 

Spoiler

 Satsuki's food play scene or Michiru's second fingering.

Though I tend to always buy the 18+ versions over the all ages, I tend to zone out on most sex scenes anyway so It wouldn't really bother me if they went or not. But can Fuwa survive with most of it's members being stuck with blue balls? Especially now where sites like NHentai are being blocked in some countries.... 

[Clephas]

I would still play them, but I'd probably play fewer charage, lol.  To be honest, sappy romance without sex is boring as hell.

[Norleas]

Yes, that could be the door to a better era or the doom of the market, its an interesting and sad alternative dimension.

[Thyndd]

9 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:

As for me, I definitely would. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure it would lead into some unhealthy changes in the industry, and I'm not sure if the new VNs would be as appealing to me as the old ones. Nobody really mentions it, but for me one of the main advantages VNs have compared to other media is that they are automatically 18+, so they don't have to deal with all this crap like toning down violent scenes and touching extremely controversial topics.

As long as it's only the h-scenes, sure, I don't care, but I think you hit the bull's-eye there. Losing the appeal of the 18+, companies would probably just tone down not only erotic content, but pretty much every ounce of adult content and themes in order to sell to a broader public. So, technically yes, I totally would keep reading VNs if the h-scenes were removed, but that's only if the rest of the content remained unchanged... which is highly improbable, not to say impossible. Therefore, in actuality that change in content would most likely be a deterrent for me.

 

[Ashley Horizon]

Well, the last time a famous company tried to do this, they almost went bankrupt. So, it's not gonna happen anytime in the near future. 

My answer is I probably will stop reading charage and moege if that happen. Personally, I love a well-written h-scene with good romance (tone work's is my favorite). And I by no means  want this to happen at all. Like, how are you supposed to tell a love story while it's going through 3 stages: high school, university, and real life without any h-scenes ? 

 

Edited February 8, 2018 by Ashley Horizon

[novurdim]

11 hours ago, Dreamysyu said:

Let's assume that starting from today there is no way, legal or illegal, to get VNs with H-scenes. All previously existing VNs are perfectly censored, and the new ones are all-ages from the start. Would you still continue reading them after that?

W-why not, lots of the best VNs are already without h-scenes from the start...

Edited February 8, 2018 by novurdim

[Thunderbro]

I would, I don't play VNs for H-scenes, I play them for the story. I have nothing against VNs that do contain H-scenes, but I much prefer VNs that don't focus on them.

[Thyndd]

47 minutes ago, Ashley Horizon said:

Like, how are you supposed to tell a love story while it's going through 3 stages: high school, university, and real life without any h-scenes ? 

 

The same way you are supposed to show a slice of life without a scene where the characters poop, I guess. 

Don't get me wrong, I also appreciate a well written h-scene, as few as they are, but stating that you cannot do without them is an overstatement imo. 

Edited February 8, 2018 by Thyndd

[ChaosRaven]

It would most likely reduce the amount of VN's I read but not stop it. I read VN's for different reasons, some more for ero and moe, and some more for story and interesting characters. Simple moeges would most likely suffer the most of it besides the obvious nukige victims.

I'm pretty sure a lot of VN companies would kick the bucket, since the whole market would surely suffer and loose a lot of customers. But it could also have a positive effect, if H-scenes wouldn't be possible anymore, companies would be forced to focus more on story and interesting characters.

Personally, I think I'd focus more on animes again - I prefer them already for action themed stuff anyway.

[Codesterz]

No I wouldn't. I know I've mentioned this before, but I read VNs because they can have a good balance between plot and porn. If you watch a hentai anime it's mostly porn with very little plot. The same is also true in hentai manga. Also I should mention that plot doesn't necessarily mean a complicated story it can also just be the daily SoL stuff as welll. VNs give you time to connect and get to know the characters before throwing the porn at you, something the other 2 mediums don't do(hopefully one day they will). I would love to watch a 24 episode hentai anime, but only 3 of those episodes have sex scenes. Sadly though that doesn't exist so I read VN's to get something akin to that.

[Plk_Lesiak]

1 hour ago, Thyndd said:

The same way you are supposed to show a slice of life without a scene where the characters poop, I guess.

 

Really? I don't know if I can enjoy my VNs fully without all those close-ups into the toilet bowl and high-detailed flushing scenes. I would be missing a crucial element of character's life and development.

Edited February 8, 2018 by Plk_Lesiak

[finiteHP]

Sure.  I like Hscenes in my VNs, but my favourite ones all have either no sex scenes or the scenes aren’t needed for the plot as long as the relationship still comes through in the text.  It might even increase the pool of VNs I’d be willing to read since there are certain sex related tags that I personally refuse to play no matter how well loved the VN is.

Edited February 9, 2018 by finiteHP

[alden_0023]

Would I read it: Im not against it. I can enjoy VN with and without H scenes. Though admittedly I wait until 18+ releases of every game because less censorship.

Would it sell: Debatable. On one hand, it would be easier to introduce the VN format to younger people since you didn't need to have the 18+ disclaimer. On the other, sex sells, and I'd say many still read nukige to 'unwind'

 

[wyldstrykr]

i read vns because of h-scene but i agree that there is too much h-scene in some non-nukige vns....... i probably playing real games instead of vns if that happen (i miss those vn that you rewarded the reader a good h-scene for a good long story at the end like in canvas,to heart 2(?), period and that girl in sharin no kuni)

[Fuzzytrout]

I'd keep reading them. I love VNs, with or without H-scenes. Censorship does annoy me though, so I'd be a little peeved if the hypothetical somehow happened. I'd even read a VN without H-scenes that was about the sudden disappearance of H-scenes in VNs, even if without any H-scenes in it, there would be no way to know if there really had been some to start with...  Going to take my newb-self off and think about trees falling in the forest with nobody around for a while to clear my head.

Edited February 9, 2018 by Fuzzytrout

[Dergonu]

5 hours ago, alden_0023 said:

Would it sell: Debatable. On one hand, it would be easier to introduce the VN format to younger people since you didn't need to have the 18+ disclaimer. On the other, sex sells, and I'd say many still read nukige to 'unwind'

VNs would probably still sell okay in the west, but the market would all but die in Japan. H is very important to a large group of the community in Japan, and H is almost always used to market the games, instead of story summaries and such. Well, I guess the summaries are in the marketing material too, but gets buried in all the boobs, lol. 

[novurdim]

40 minutes ago, Dergonu said:

VNs would probably still sell okay in the west, but the market would all but die in Japan.

Only eroge market would.

[Plk_Lesiak]

11 minutes ago, novurdim said:

Only eroge market would.

Well, that's for sure, considering there would be no eroge in existance. 

[Ranzo]

I wonder if we tweaked the scenario and not only removed all H scenes and all future H scenes from Vn's but also removed all knowledge of them being there in the first place. What would happen then? Other than a brighter future for mankind I mean

[Dreamysyu]

1 minute ago, Ranzo said:

I wonder if we tweaked the scenario and not only removed all H scenes and all future H scenes from Vn's but also removed all knowledge of them being there in the first place. What would happen then? Other than a brighter future for mankind I mean

A lot of people would be very confused about how a certain group of VNs with bad plots always sold so well.

They would be even more confused to find lots of them on their PCs and recalling that they enjoyed them for some reason. Some might even suspect that there's something wrong with their heads. Hehehe.

[Ranzo]

8 minutes ago, Dreamysyu said:

A lot of people would be very confused about how a certain group of VNs with bad plots always sold so well.

They would be even more confused to find lots of them on their PCs and recalling that they enjoyed them for some reason. Some might even suspect that there's something wrong with their heads. Hehehe.

Don't forget some of the wonderful titles

"Why did I have Burgeoning Dick Musk Lust!!!:Cum Guzzlers Autonomous Happy Thrill Time on my computer, when it is just about the interpersonal relationships of a group of teenagers?"

[novurdim]

1 hour ago, Plk_Lesiak said:

Well, that's for sure, considering there would be no eroge in existance.

Exactly my point. But some people are talking about the death of the "VN market" which is just plain weird nowadays.

Edited February 9, 2018 by novurdim

[Plk_Lesiak]

42 minutes ago, novurdim said:

Exactly my point. But some people are talking about the death of the "VN market" which is just plain weird nowadays.

Eeeeh, well, I'm not the most knowledgeable person in this regard, but how many prominent "VN" companies don't rely on h-content with at least some of their games and marketing? It would definitely be a huge hit for most of them.