NowItsAngeTime Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) They want a mix of genres, recommendations for any reader and even ones for beginners in particular. Keep that in mind going in. Also make sure to just vote with the vndb ID (e.g. "11" for Fate/Stay Night) https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/8ombib/rvisualnovels_2018_recommendation_chart_voting/ Edited June 7, 2018 by NowItsAngeTime Plk_Lesiak 1 Quote
Plk_Lesiak Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 Nice, will do it in the morning because filling out the survey on my tablet would be a torture. :s I encourage everyone that cares enough to participate in this to include an OELVN or two (or ten) in their recommendations, let's give our fledgling industry some love. :3 Quote
Inorin Posted June 7, 2018 Posted June 7, 2018 (edited) Already voted on the first day. I kind of left out a few sections though. Edited June 7, 2018 by wei123 Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 I find recommendation charts pretty useless because they only take into account the tastes of the recommender and not the recommendee. I also notice these are only for VNs with an english translation, so what's this "beginner level VN" business? Entry level english use or "mild to no perviness" involved? Eh. Quote
sanahtlig Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 Looking up VNDB numbers for each title is too much of a pain. I gave up. Quote
Yuuko Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 Why post reddit stuff on Fuwo if you need reddit account to vote. If people have reddit accounts they should read r/vns in the first place if they care about this voting tbh. Quote
Plk_Lesiak Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Kiriririri said: Why post reddit stuff on Fuwo if you need reddit account to vote. If people have reddit accounts they should read r/vns in the first place if they care about this voting tbh. Because a Reddit account is obviously a rare commodity that only most dedicated r/visualnovels readers possess. Also, only those that check out Reddit every day might be interested in what will be pinned (for years possibly) as recommendations at the central point of the western VN community. Quote
NowItsAngeTime Posted June 8, 2018 Author Posted June 8, 2018 Well that and plus I don't see FuwaNovel ever being big enough to make their own rec chart and /r/vns seems to be the only community that wants to do it so may as well touch on every major avenue that's willing to vote. Quote
NowItsAngeTime Posted June 8, 2018 Author Posted June 8, 2018 Just speaking the truth. /r/vns has done two, 4chan has done 1. How come FuwaNovel never made their own even when they were much bigger back in the day when they allowed hosted downloads??? Quote
Zander Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 We're gonna build our own recommendations chart, and make r/visualnovels pay for it! Mr Poltroon, MeguminBlast, Fiddle and 6 others 7 2 Quote
NowItsAngeTime Posted June 8, 2018 Author Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) Just now, Zander said: We're gonna build our own recommendations chart, and make r/visualnovels pay for it! Well if Fuwa does one too, I'd happily support it as well. Edited June 8, 2018 by NowItsAngeTime Zander 1 Quote
Plk_Lesiak Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Zander said: We're gonna build our own recommendations chart, and make r/visualnovels pay for it! How did we even get here?  52 minutes ago, NowItsAngeTime said: Just speaking the truth. /r/vns has done two, 4chan has done 1. How come FuwaNovel never made their own even when they were much bigger back in the day when they allowed hosted downloads??? We have a full subforums of recommendations, it's not like a chart is the only format available. And it's not to critisize anyone, I'm just not sure why the whole discussion went in this absurd direction. Edited June 8, 2018 by Plk_Lesiak Quote
Yuuko Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, NowItsAngeTime said: Just speaking the truth. /r/vns has done two, 4chan has done 1. How come FuwaNovel never made their own even when they were much bigger back in the day when they allowed hosted downloads??? Because all our moderators are ASS Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 7 hours ago, NowItsAngeTime said: Just speaking the truth. /r/vns has done two, 4chan has done 1. How come FuwaNovel never made their own even when they were much bigger back in the day when they allowed hosted downloads??? Eh, community recommendation charts are just there for communities to congratulate and jerk each other over their favourite games. They are of questionable use to people needing recommendations. BTW, I'm taking a look at Reddit's previous "recommendation chart" and I have a question. Why is Kanon one of the "least" newbie friendly entries? Kanon was actually one of the first visual novels I read and I had no trouble with it. Also why would Fate Stay Night be a "newbie" selection? Isn't the route structure one of the more complex examples in the visual novel fandom? Would newbies know that Fate will be different (yet similar) to Unlimited Blade Works? Why is Hakuouki, an accessible game that was also released on the handheld, considered less newbie friendly than Second Reproduction which is a game that needs to be patched? Why is Utawarerumono considered newbie friendly when every time you save (with modern operating systems) it crashes? Then you need to do some funkie things to get the game working. Would newbies enjoy that extra dollop of frustration? Tsukihime is considered more newbie friendly than Kanon? What? Oh, and more newbie friendly than Ef, good to know ... Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted June 8, 2018 Posted June 8, 2018 A few years ago when I wanted to give my sister an entry level VN to try (she's not a VN reader) I went for Hakuouki and it quickly became one of her favourite games. It was even the theme on her PS3. I did not go for Second Reproduction *rolls eyes*. Quote
BunnyAdvocate Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Darklord Rooke said: Eh, community recommendation charts are just there for communities to congratulate and jerk each other over their favourite games. They are of questionable use to people needing recommendations. BTW, I'm taking a look at Reddit's previous "recommendation chart" and I have a question. Why is Kanon one of the "least" newbie friendly entries? Kanon was actually one of the first visual novels I read and I had no trouble with it. Also why would Fate Stay Night be a "newbie" selection? Isn't the route structure one of the more complex examples in the visual novel fandom? Would newbies know that Fate will be different (yet similar) to Unlimited Blade Works? Why is Hakuouki, an accessible game that was also released on the handheld, considered less newbie friendly than Second Reproduction which is a game that needs to be patched? Why is Utawarerumono considered newbie friendly when every time you save (with modern operating systems) it crashes? Then you need to do some funkie things to get the game working. Would newbies enjoy that extra dollop of frustration? Tsukihime is considered more newbie friendly than Kanon? What? Oh, and more newbie friendly than Ef, good to know ... I was the one who made that chart for /r/vns, so to answer your question, it was decided via a series of polls on the subreddit. First, we collected nominations for each genre. Then we put the list of nominations to the vote with the 5 most voted for VNs in each genre making it onto the chart (unless that VN had gotten more votes in another genre). Some of those genres ended up having a pretty small selection of nominations. Once we'd taken out VNs already allocated to more popular genres, some less popular genres barely had enough nominated VNs to fill the chart. Then once we had our list of recommended VNs for each genre, we put them all on another poll asking users to rate them on visuals/story/newbie friendliness. Those with a higher average newbie rating were placed to the left of the chart. Some of the less popular VNs (otome and yaoi stuff in particular) didn't even get any votes. So me and insanityy just set their ratings to whatever we thought best. Quote
Dreamysyu Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 Well, nice opportunity to create a reddit account, I guess. Quote
Narcosis Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 >community voted VN recommendation chart >only /r/ users can vote Reddit being autistic again. Zalor 1 Quote
Plk_Lesiak Posted June 9, 2018 Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Narcosis said: >community voted VN recommendation chart >only /r/ users can vote Reddit being autistic again. I think it's a measure of preventing spamvotes without IP blocking? Considering it's made in google forms and not through any kind of (semi-)professional survey tool that would guarantee a good quality of results. + making a Reddit account is not a high barrier to cross. Edited June 9, 2018 by Plk_Lesiak Quote
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