Hello, Goodbye Steam Storepage Removed

[ciel_yuri]

What a bunch of bullshit. If it really is because some countries wanna outlaw lolis then a simple "Sorry, this game is not available in your region" would do better than screwing over everybody.

[Corrupted]

Religion, politics, lolis. When will people learn that these topics are unproductive to debate?

I was interested in the original topic but frustrated to see it derail.

[adamstan]

So there are some rumours, that Valve will give some response by the end of the week:

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/12/valve-will-reportedly-address-steam-game-bans-at-the-end-of-the-week/73288/

[Alcorin]

Now we can only hope and pray ;v;

[Stormwolf]

Guess we got a pretty hefty delay because of this incident :<

[adamstan]

Nah, NekoNyan wrote that they decided to delay release before ban occured. It's in their latest blogpost - they ported HGB to their new engine based on Unity (that allows to switch mosaics on and off ), and want some more time for QC, to catch bugs.

https://nekonyansoft.com/blog/the-state-of-affairs

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We hadn't disclosed that so far, but the reason Hello,Goodbye got delayed is that we've been developing our own engine in Unity, and we have ported Hello,Goodbye to our engine. We're sure you can imagine what the advantages of that are, and also for what purpose you definitely need a different engine for visual novels, but we'll discuss that at a later date. 

Everything is coming along greatly, and we should be ready for a release by the end of the month, but we figured we should take some extra time to make sure everything is 100% working, so the release is going to be the 25th January 2019. We'll also open pre-orders within the next few weeks (this time for sure!). If you want to support us and the developers, this the way that will get the most money directly to us. We'll also make sure to throw in some neat pre-order bonus.

Also, good news for both those who like mosaics and those who can't stand mosaics. As some of you have suggested, we're adding an in-game option that will allow you to toggle mosaics on/off.

Now, if they released all-ages version (in addition to adult one) in their own store too, I'd be really glad. Well, for now I hope that Steam retracts that stupid ban, and if I want H, I'll apply the patch  

Edited December 11, 2018 by adamstan

[Stormwolf]

That's cool i guess, but i can't help but think thats a lot of trouble over something like that

[adamstan]

Maybe that's a hint that they want to bring back some older titles, that wouldn't work on modern systems (and original developers are gone), so they require custom engine?

Edited December 11, 2018 by adamstan

[Acrylic7]

If Valve really cannot release 18+version for whatever the reason, I really hope that at the very least, they can still release all age version. I play VN not for the nudity or sex act but for the story, preferable the main char is adult. 

[adamstan]

5 minutes ago, Acrylic7 said:

I really hope that at the very least, they can still release all age version.

But it was all-ages version that got nuked by Valve +18 patch wasn't meant to be on Steam, despite Steam supposedly allowing adult content.

So as it is now - +18 version will be released in NekoNyan's own store, and maybe on MG too? But they don't say anything about all-ages version. I would like if they released it outside Steam too, if Valve doesn't retract the ban.

Edited December 11, 2018 by adamstan

[Acrylic7]

20 hours ago, adamstan said:

But it was all-ages version that got nuked by Valve +18 patch wasn't meant to be on Steam, despite Steam supposedly allowing adult content.

So as it is now - +18 version will be released in NekoNyan's own store, and maybe on MG too? But they don't say anything about all-ages version. I would like if they released it outside Steam too, if Valve doesn't retract the ban.

Okay, my mistake then. Thank you for the correction. I can understand that Steam need to follow the law and staffs need to follow Steam policy, but it has to be fair and not bias. If there's no nudity or sex act or whatever violating the policy or regulation, no need to ban the game then. 

[solidbatman]

The problem here isn't Valve banning the games. Fact of the matter is that it is their storefront and they can absolutely dictate what is allowed to be sold and what isn't. That falls completely under their rights as a company. The larger issue at hand is the absolutely inconsistent method that they use to dictate what can and can't be sold. We've seen over the past few months Steam go from not allowing 18+ patches, to allowing uncensored porn on steam, back to even nuking the games from orbit. Valve needs to set up a uniform policy here and stop flip flopping back and forth.  

[Stormwolf]

21 minutes ago, solidbatman said:

The problem here isn't Valve banning the games. Fact of the matter is that it is their storefront and they can absolutely dictate what is allowed to be sold and what isn't. That falls completely under their rights as a company. The larger issue at hand is the absolutely inconsistent method that they use to dictate what can and can't be sold. We've seen over the past few months Steam go from not allowing 18+ patches, to allowing uncensored porn on steam, back to even nuking the games from orbit. Valve needs to set up a uniform policy here and stop flip flopping back and forth.  

First they need to fire hipsters and metoo fanatics from the company

[solidbatman]

49 minutes ago, Stormwolf said:

First they need to fire hipsters and metoo fanatics from the company

damn sjws 

amirite fellow dumbasses? 

[Stormwolf]

28 minutes ago, solidbatman said:

damn sjws 

amirite fellow dumbasses? 

Sjw and hipster detected i guess

[Dergonu]

Confirming what we already know, the issue does indeed seem to be with school settings/ mentions of high schools in "anime games" in general, (even if the heroine(s) look grown up,) as Bullied Bried, the new Cherry Kiss game just got randomly banned before release. Cherry Kiss has been releasing uncut games just fine on steam, and most of those have featured adult heroines without school settings. (Tsundere Idol wasn't released uncut at first.) But the one game with a school setting is of course ban hammered.

[TexasDice]

But then we have Sanoba, Koikuma and etc which are 18+ highschool games not removed from the store. The usual steam consistency makes it hard to pinpoint a specific, general cause, because some offended admin could one day decide to nuke every single game on the store that involves somebody wearing a red t-shirt. 

[Veshurik]

Well, I just really don't understand, for what it's all about. For trolling the customers? Developers? Huh?..

Oh my gosh, sometimes I just wanna buy the game from their site, even if it doesn't have regional prices, because they (Nekonyan) deserves it...

[Swim Swim]

Steam continues to ban anime style games especially if not well known, latest being My Erotic Summer

[Incynerate]

13 hours ago, Swim Swim said:

Steam continues to ban anime style games especially if not well known, latest being My Erotic Summer

Steam likely banned My Erotic Summer because it's an H-game with a shota protagonist, not just because it's an anime-style game.

[Swim Swim]

4 hours ago, Incynerate said:

Steam likely banned My Erotic Summer because it's an H-game with a shota protagonist, not just because it's an anime-style game.

What about Food Girls? All-Ages game yet also Indefinitely Delayed by Steam. Seems like they are still "taste police" despite claiming otherwise.