Requesting a Small Explantion: G-Senjou No Mao (Spoilers)

[Satoshi Mochida]

I recently finished the game but I have a small question. The Novel tries hard to convince you that when the main character gets a headache, he will turn into Mao due to the proposed theory of multiple personality disorder. During these time periods, his friends and other people are unable to contact him (which is logical since he would be the enemy in these situations) and when he is back to "normal" again, he usually suffers from a little bit of memory loss.

 

However, in the end you will find out that the main character and Mao are two seperate persons. Thus, my question:

- How can it then be explained that nobody is able to contact the main character during one of his many headaches? Does he pass out or something? He carries a cellphone, but he never answers during one of his headaches. There is no reason for him to be missing in action since he and Mao are two different people :X

 

Did I miss the explanation somewhere?

 

Thanks.

[Flutterz]

I'm fuzzy on the details, so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it just that he would get terrible headaches and didn't want anyone bugging him or simply passed out?

[Bolverk]

I'm fuzzy on the details, so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it just that he would get terrible headaches and didn't want anyone bugging him or simply passed out?

Been a while for me as well. But it seemed like he passed out/blacked out or he just had no memory of what happened. He has headaches and tiredness because of the massive work he did and stress he had.

[nohman]

It never explicitly states it I think, but I think you would be safe inferring the above. Blacking out would explain Kyousuke's lost time and his memory loss during all the parts the game wants you to think he's Maou.

[Nosebleed]

I don't think it ever states it but I think it's safe to assume his headaches just get too strong and he can't focus on anything like picking up a cellphone, either that or he just passes out, hence why his memory is always fuzzy and he forgets where he was.

 

Also you should put that in spoilers.

[nohman]

Also you should put that in spoilers.

 

The topic itself is marked spoilers, so I think it's safe.

[Nosebleed]

The topic itself is marked spoilers, so I think it's safe.

I guess so logically. Or else we'd have to put the entire discussion in spoilers anyway.

[shcboomer]

I don't think it ever states it but I think it's safe to assume his headaches just get too strong and he can't focus on anything like picking up a cellphone, either that or he just passes out, hence why his memory is always fuzzy and he forgets where he was.

If I recall correctly, that is explained by his 'doctor'. He states in each route before the main route that these headaches heavily affect him and he really can't do anything during those times. So much so that he may be a different person. The cure can be found in one of four ways that we discover in each and every one of the routes.

[Zalor]

I always blamed this on poorly constructed writing and dismissed it as a plot hole. 

Kyousuke was hyped up as Maou, and when we find out it's his brother (who we didn't even know he had until afterwards), it felt like the writers just pulled that completely out of their asses.

[nohman]

I always blamed this on poorly constructed writing and dismissed it as a plot hole. 

Kyousuke was hyped up as Maou, and when we find out it's his brother (who we didn't even know he had until afterwards), it felt like the writers just pulled that completely out of their asses.

 

There's a few spots in the story I feel suffers from weak writing, but I don't think the reveal that Maou is Kyousuke's brother is one of them. There's plenty leading up to the reveal that casts doubt on you being Maou.

[Zalor]

There's a few spots in the story I feel suffers from weak writing, but I don't think the reveal that Maou is Kyousuke's brother is one of them. There's plenty leading up to the reveal that casts doubt on you being Maou.

 

Yes, but it was poorly executed on multiple levels. If they had thought it out more and planned ahead while writing than the plot twist could have been a lot smoother. In fact, a lot of things could have been smoother if they polished up the writing... (Not a huge fan of G-Senjou if you can't tell).

[nohman]

I feel it's presented when it becomes relevant, just like the rest of Kyousuke's personal history. It helps conceal the big reveal, but it isn't such an asspull that Kyouhei doesn't have *any* presence in the story until he becomes relevant. He appears in the photo of Kyousuke's mother.

[Zalor]

I feel it's presented when it becomes relevant, just like the rest of Kyousuke's personal history. It helps conceal the big reveal, but it isn't such an asspull that Kyouhei doesn't have *any* presence in the story until he becomes relevant. He appears in the photo of Kyousuke's mother.

 

Just my opinion here, but I think that in any well written plot twist the resources and information to guess it should all be available. What makes them great is that the story presents them in a way that you most likely wouldn't have thought of. If all the clues are given to you, but then the story does something really unique with those clues, then it really feels like I was out smarted, (like plot twists should make you feel). Plot twists where the full resources aren't available are a bit cheap in my opinion because then I wasn't properly tricked and outsmarted. And I don't feel G-senjou gave enough sufficient information to properly trick.

[nohman]

Just my opinion here, but I think that in any well written plot twist the resources and information to guess it should all be available. What makes them great is that the story presents them in a way that you most likely wouldn't have thought of. If all the clues are given to you, but then the story does something really unique with those clues, then it really feels like I was out smarted, (like plot twists should make you feel). Plot twists where the full resources aren't available are a bit cheap in my opinion because then I wasn't properly tricked and outsmarted. And I don't feel G-senjou gave enough sufficient information to properly trick.

 

That's an understandable view point and that's certainly an ideal way to present a mystery. I enjoy being able to go back and pick up on the seemingly insignificant details quite a bit. However, I don't think that has to be a hard-set rule for a plot twist. Sometimes you simply can't fit all those details naturally in a story without unduly emphasizing it. With G-Senjou, while reading it you're presented heavily with suggestions that Kyousuke is Maou, but at  the same time there's more subtle hints that he isn't when you take the time to think about it. I feel like you could argue that the twist of the story is that Kyousuke is not Maou, regardless of who it is and that in itself is something the reader might be able to work out on his own.

 

EDIT: Accidently a word.

[Zalor]

That's an understandable view point and that's certainly an ideal way to present a mystery. I enjoy being able to go back and pick up on the seemingly insignificant details quite a bit. However, I don't think that has to be a hard-set rule for a plot twist. Sometimes you simply can't fit all those details naturally in a story without unduly emphasizing it. With G-Senjou, while reading it you're presented heavily with suggestions that Kyousuke is Maou, but at  the same time there's more subtle hints that he isn't when you take the time to think about it. I feel like you could argue that the of the story is that Kyousuke is not Maou, regardless of who it is and that in itself is something the reader might be able to work out on his own.

 

I will agree that the story does provide enough information to deduce that Kyousuke is not necessarily Maou. On that point G-Senjou is fine, however, it didn't provide any information or clues at all as to who else Maou could be if not Kyousuke.

[Okami]

If I remember correctly Kyousuke did have some mental disorder that caused him to lose memory of some periods from time to time, that is why even he himself started to believe that he is Mao and why he could never explain what did he do for that period of time. I can't remember if they also give explanation why he couldn't be contacted during those periods but I think that it is somehow connected to this.

[nohman]

I will agree that the story does provide enough information to deduce that Kyousuke is not necessarily Maou. On that point G-Senjou is fine, however, it didn't provide any information or clues at all as to who else Maou could be if not Kyousuke.

 

That's fair enough, I'll concede that.

 

Anymore discussion would just be belaboring our points.

[Down]

I will agree that the story does provide enough information to deduce that Kyousuke is not necessarily Maou. On that point G-Senjou is fine, however, it didn't provide any information or clues at all as to who else Maou could be if not Kyousuke.

 

Actually I thought it did. Of course you don't have all the elements right off the bat, but iirc

Kyousuke's brother is mentioned at some point quite some time before the big revelation. I don't remember exactly how it was pulled off, but I remember having the clear impression it was a Tchekhov's gun and he would be relevant at some point.

[Zhiroo]

His brother is mentioned during Tsubakis route first I believe where he says he died in a terrorist attack. To be honest there's a strong plot to say that Kyousuke is indeed Maou during the three routes especially in Kanons route and then the plot twist happens and Kyouhei appears.

[Satoshi Mochida]

Ok, thanks for sharing your thoughts! I'll just go with the entire "the head ache hurt too much for me to do anything and passed out" story.

[ColdWarHero]

Kyousuke has psychogenic amnesia, which in result gives you memory loss during moments of high stress.

[Wahfuu]

Uh, Kyousukes brother is mentioned way before the reveal, so that's not at all a lack of information.

It's not impossible to figure out the identity before-hand.

 

[renlian]

G-Senjou No Mao

G-線上の毛澤東

[hilbi]

Sorry for upping this topic, but sometimes he was unable to contact/be contacted by his cellphone. Like that time in the arena when they were searching for Maou and they split up, there was a very bad connection right? 

 

Kyousuke has psychogenic amnesia, which in result gives you memory loss during moments of high stress.

Somewhere in the end Kyousuke says that's not true... He just forgets a lot I think