Down Posted October 6, 2015 Author Posted October 6, 2015 Rondine pm'd me about the deck I used in Anki and I actually couldn't find it again the shared decks on ankiweb. So I uploaded my version of it, where I purged about ~1000 words which I found arguably useless. I don't pretend they were actually useless but I can't get them back anyway https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/740967428 And remember to read stuff along with Anki, it's the most important! Rondine 1 Quote
Rondine Posted October 6, 2015 Posted October 6, 2015 Rondine pm'd me about the deck I used in Anki and I actually couldn't find it again the shared decks on ankiweb. So I uploaded my version of it, where I purged about ~1000 words which I found arguably useless. I don't pretend they were actually useless but I can't get them back anyway https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/740967428 And remember to read stuff along with Anki, it's the most important!Thank you for your information Down! Out of the informations on the front page, I imagine Imabi would be a pretty good cheat sheet for me I'm glad you decide to post that Shared Deck of yours on the front page of this thread as well. This thread has been immensely helpful! I wish I would've found this thread on it's conception 2 years ago you can use this one https://ankiweb.net/.../info/523650169 and this one https://ankiweb.net/...o/1668783345 to start, N5 and 4Thanks for the help Deep Blue. Thank you for the warm welcome as well.My Kanji is not good, but I think my vocabulary is already past N5, and maybe slightly past N4. Which is why I seek Down's flashcard. Quote
Deep Blue Posted October 8, 2015 Posted October 8, 2015 little advice, do not study kanji alone or the readings just study vocabulary and grammar, learning vocabulary will teach you the readings and it will help you when you have to learn the grammar, also do not use romaji avoid it as much as possible. Rondine 1 Quote
Andrew Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 I started learning Japanese at the beginning of High School right through to the end of High School. I could read Hiragana, Katakana and recognize around 50-60 Kanji. I was also at conversational level speaking for self improvement. I am now again studying Japanese at University. It is a hard language, but like any language you learn, it's all about practice and repetition.I am also studying at University with students that didn't learn Japanese in High School and this is their 2nd year studying Japanese. They are pretty much at my level.It really depends on the intensity of learning. Japanese is really a great language - don't feel discouraged either if you sometimes find it difficult ganbatte ne! (Good luck!) Quote
Mikado069 Posted November 4, 2015 Posted November 4, 2015 I don't know if someone mentioned this site, but here you go.http://kids.yahoo.co.jp/If you can read kana, then you can train in this site and play multiple choice selection game, which in turn lets you feel comfortable with certain kanji. They also, give you chance to re-do your mistake, there are other games like grammar and such.Also, if you have iPhone, you can find a game made by unity called Hiragana, it lets you play a game where you write on the touch pad and it test your "order of line", so it's helpful (It provides both Katakana writing and Hiragana). There is also another application in iPhone called JLPT study, it's useful for learning words and Kanji.My former teacher advice.A good plan to study is to make a small task day by day, even one word counts. The fact that you can spare 30 min (at least) a day will have greater impact after 1 year or so. Don't learn everything at once, you will be overwhelmed. Also, it's better to understand the kanji meaning rather than memorizing the reading. Knowing the meaning can really help later, when you know the words, which in turn helps you to read that kanji. However, you still need to learn the Kanji reading, so you can consider it as "easy mode" and "hard mode"in conclusion, live the language. Quote
minuore Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Self study student here. I aim to be able to read as my top priority. Speak is much harder as no one around is able to interact with me, is it hard to learn a language without one or another? I have a hard time to even construct a few sentences, essays will be out of the question. My current stage is able to read sentences with fragmented knowledge of simple phrases. At present, I read in VN and depend on common occurrence of a phrase till I remember it naturally. Should continue this way? OR Learn to write(not mainly typing) and contruct essays? Time to learn grammar for a start though. Quote
Amon Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 I aim to be able to read as my top priority. Speak is much harder as no one around is able to interact with me, is it hard to learn a language without one or another? I have a hard time to even construct a few sentences, essays will be out of the question. My current stage is able to read sentences with fragmented knowledge of simple phrases. At present, I read in VN and depend on common occurrence of a phrase till I remember it naturally. Should continue this way? OR Learn to write(not mainly typing) and contruct essays? Time to learn grammar for a start though.I'm able to read a VN without problems (2,5 years self-study, 10.000 individual words learned), but I wouldn't be able to hold a simple conversation, simply because I never practiced it. You can have a near-fluent passive language-ability (reading, hearing), but that doesn't guarantee a sufficient active language-ability (speaking, writing). That's nothing surprising. It's the basic difference between recall and creation. Your course of action should depend on your goal. I never intended to actually speak a lot Japanese, so I focused my study on learning vocabs and a skimming through some grammar. If you just want to read VNs, a good spaced repetition system (Anki), a good grammar guide (imabi.net), exposition to the language (Anime subbed or even jap-subbed) and willpower (continuing to read untranslated even though it's a hassle in the beginning; doing your daily reviews) is all you need. I've never even done a single school-like exercise.---On a sidenote: I don't recommend Memrise as a SRS anymore. The devs have no clue what they are doing with their site. minuore and Chronopolis 2 Quote
Funnerific Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 On a sidenote: I don't recommend Memrise as a SRS anymore. The devs have no clue what they are doing with their site.It still has lots of user-created courses and nothing stops you from making your own, as you definitely should eventually do for pulling words and expressions out of wherever you encounter them as you interact with Japanese things. I honestly don't know the state of other SRS, but so far I haven't felt the need to move from Memrise (I have private courses for 2000+ words and 250+ kanji over there already). Quote
minuore Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) I aim to be able to read as my top priority. Speak is much harder as no one around is able to interact with me, is it hard to learn a language without one or another? I have a hard time to even construct a few sentences, essays will be out of the question. My current stage is able to read sentences with fragmented knowledge of simple phrases. At present, I read in VN and depend on common occurrence of a phrase till I remember it naturally. Should continue this way? OR Learn to write(not mainly typing) and contruct essays? Time to learn grammar for a start though.I'm able to read a VN without problems (2,5 years self-study, 10.000 individual words learned), but I wouldn't be able to hold a simple conversation, simply because I never practiced it. You can have a near-fluent passive language-ability (reading, hearing), but that doesn't guarantee a sufficient active language-ability (speaking, writing). That's nothing surprising. It's the basic difference between recall and creation. Your course of action should depend on your goal. I never intended to actually speak a lot Japanese, so I focused my study on learning vocabs and a skimming through some grammar. If you just want to read VNs, a good spaced repetition system (Anki), a good grammar guide (imabi.net), exposition to the language (Anime subbed or even jap-subbed) and willpower (continuing to read untranslated even though it's a hassle in the beginning; doing your daily reviews) is all you need. I've never even done a single school-like exercise.---On a sidenote: I don't recommend Memrise as a SRS anymore. The devs have no clue what they are doing with their site. Thank you, I needed this kind of response. I was unsure even if I keep learning this way, I would even get to the level able to do speed reading or even hearing as if it is one of my main language. But another thought, being able to interact and do some posting in Japanese sites or games might be useful in future. !! I just thought of practice typing out sentences on VNs may achieve my goal. Mm mm... Edited November 19, 2015 by minuore Quote
Down Posted December 30, 2015 Author Posted December 30, 2015 I did some long overdue spring cleaning on the OP. There's probably still plenty of amelioration to be done but it's probably better now! Quote
Funnerific Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 Got linked this. I have no use for it, but you might http://cheatsheets.nihonshock.com/basic-japanese-digital.pdf Quote
Deep Blue Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 This helped me to understand the freaking "ゆく" that I constanlty read and hear in lyrics all the time http://forum.jisho.org/discussion/comment/4520#Comment_4520 this is for for the use of じゃない LINK which can be a bit tricky at first EDIT: I will start posting some links that were useful to me when I remember them Kawasumi 1 Quote
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