krill Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 You are misunderstanding something Nukige is the same thing as Hentai just Hentai is a term for anime and nukige is a term for VNs. The difference is that biased Henai no other anime have porn in them and Hentai are just porn with non-important story, but when it comes to VNs there are eroge that have both porn and story and nukige that have porn but no story or none important story. Most times you can tell right away if a VN is eroge or nukige but sometimes it's not. So to draw a line we (I) say that as long as it is at lest 50% story 50% porn it's eroge but if it's more than 50% porn it's nukige. I agree that MGQ even true being nukige has a very good story, but it's still nukige because it's 90% porn and 10% story so to get to the story you have to go thru all those porn which is rather problematic for people like me who dislike pornograhy. Also from what I heard MGQ is pretty rare kind as most nukiges are same as hentai and don't have a story at all, true, I am not completely sure as I don't read nukige the only one I have read was MGQ and that was because I started it before knowing that nukiges even existed and then I couldn't drop it because dropping things half way true is against my policy (true I don't regret not dropping it as by the end of part 2 story goten worth forcing my self true all that porn to get to it). actually there's ecchi anime that isn't outright hentai but does come close to the line such as the newest one recently my sister is unusual , while its not no contest hentai its ecchi qualitys come pretty close to the edge of the line between the two so there is a grey area in anime and manga as well as visual novels. Quote
Steve Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Fixed the title and pinned the topic. Thanks for the work, keep it up to date with new releases Quote
Beato Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Part of me feels like labelling some games nukige is a blanket statement for people to turn their nose up at. Now I'm not saying that the vast majority of these games aren't terrible in their own right but it feels a bit snobby. It's like when people turn their nose up at great games like kamidori for having gameplay elements. It doesn't matter if they're terrible or not. Most people who come here looking for VNs aren't looking for Nukige. Keeping them in the same list would make it unusable for me for example because I'm completely uninterested in nukige. Keeping them in a different list is a far better solution. We also don't have any nukige on the site apart from the sonohana games which are an exception. Quote
Alucard Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Eve burst error is missing http://vndb.org/v147 Quote
Tom Posted February 9, 2014 Posted February 9, 2014 Ack so many spoiler tags yea, looks better without those spoilers now Quote
zoom909 Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 It doesn't matter if they're terrible or not. Most people who come here looking for VNs aren't looking for Nukige. Keeping them in the same list would make it unusable for me for example because I'm completely uninterested in nukige. Keeping them in a different list is a far better solution. We also don't have any nukige on the site apart from the sonohana games which are an exception. This argument is kind of strange. What is "most"? Why are the sonohana games an exception? Also, I'm completely uninterested in yuri. Quote
Beato Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Because if someone asks for something like Harry Potter you don't suggest them a porno and if someone asks for a porno you don't suggest them Harry Potter. I don't really know why the SonoHana series is an exception. Back when we started up the site we just decided that they were ending up on the site while other nukige weren't. It's probably because they are very sweet and don't include rape. It was Aaeru who decided that so I can't say. But other nukige were out from the very beggining. Quote
Okami Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Alucard thanks for letting me know about the Eve burst error I added it to the list if you notice that any more are missing do tell me. And Baeto did you prepare that list of nukiges that are on my list so I can remove them? Also You said that SonoHana are nukiges too, I assume they aren't because they were on Fuwa site, but if they are nukiges I should probably remove them too, so could you just give me confirmation that they are nukiges and not bordeline eroge's. Quote
Beato Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 Sorry haven't had the time yet. I'm going to do it as soon as I can. Quote
Beato Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 I know that these are nukige. 2006.01.31 - Enzai - Just USA 2006.12.15 - Yin-Yang! X-Change Alternative - Peach Princess 2006.12.31 - Zettai Fukujuu Meirei - Peatch Princess 2010.02.08 - Koneko Doumei - G-Collection 2010.02.14 - Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o - CountPacula 2011.01.09 - Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o: Watashi no Ouji-sama - Petal's Garden 2011.03.14 - Zaishuu -The SiN - MangaGamer 2011.03.16 - Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o: Anata to Koibito Tsunagi - Petal's Garden 2011.07.22 - Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o: Itoshisa no Photograph - Petal's Garden 2011.08.16 - Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o: Anata o Suki na Shiawase - Petal's Garden 2011.11.22 - Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o: Amakute Hoshikute Torokeru Chuu - Petal's Garden & Hanabirakun 2012.12.17 - Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o: Kuchibiru to Kiss de Tsubuyaite - Petal's Garden & Yuri Project 2012.12.19 - Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o: Tenshi no Hanabira Zome - Petal's Garden & Yuri Project And I'm pretty sure these are too (but not 100% has anyone here played them?) 1996.XX.XX - Amy to Yobanaide - Himeya Soft 1997.XX.XX - Maid Monogatari - The Asenheim Project 1999.XX.XX - San Shimai - JAST USA 2013.04.21 - Hadaka Shitsuji - Yaoi Forever & Yaio.Desu Quote
Okami Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 I removed the ones you are sure about, waiting for confirmation before I remove the ones you are not 100% sure. If nobody gives conformation I will try finding answers by googling. Thanks. Quote
Alucard Posted February 10, 2014 Posted February 10, 2014 San shimai/three sisters story is pretty borderline. I'd say it contains a fair amount of sex but is not the only plot line. I seem to recall having to save one of the sisters at the end of the game. Amy to yobanaide would qualify in my eyes as "nukige" Quote
REtransInternational Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 2011-06-13 Flyable Heart 2013-02-17 Kimi no Nagori wa Shizuka ni Yurete VNDB won't acknowledge those because translation quality isn't what they're used to, but "they're not the only stars in the sky"... Quote
Steve Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Ok, keep the main topic updated, Okami and Tom. Also let me know if you can edit without any trouble if the topic is locked, should be fine though. Quote
Tom Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Ok, keep the main topic updated, Okami and Tom. Also let me know if you can edit without any trouble if the topic is locked, should be fine though. it is locked for me Quote
Tom Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 lets see if everyone notices that last part of your post Quote
Alucard Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 It's good to see both lists merged into one thread. As a side note it appears some of the old games can be played via browser now. Though I haven't tried it out yet http://asenheim.org/ Quote
Hazel-Bun Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Thank you very much for the list! Much easier to pick through than basically growing caution to the wind and hoping it has some sort of translation. Quote
zoom909 Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Good, I'm glad we're pinning both lists (because I might eventually work on something in both lists...) Quote
Okami Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 I haven't been online for a few days because of surgery so I just now noticed about topic being merged. I am ok with them being one topic as long as they are separated into two lists (I already said why I think they should be separated in two lists) and as long as I don't have anything with nukige titles. But I think that name of the topic should be changed to "Complete list of ALL fully English translated VNs" so people can tell that all VNs on the lists are fully translated and that there are no VNs that are only partly translated there. But as mod/s changed a name while merging topic, I won't change it without their approval. Also, Tom because of Alucard said that Amy to yobanaide is a Nukige I will remove it from my list, so you should probably add it to yours. Oh, and ReTransInternational I don't know about Flyable Heart but Kimi no Nagori wa Shizuka ni Yurete is a Machine translator from what I heard and I don't think we should add machine translated VNs as people who want to read machine translations can read any Japanese Vn with ITH & TA and similar programs. Quote
Tom Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 adding fully to the title isnt necessary. there are even VNs that have not been translated (they were made originally in english). so if we wanted to be 100% precise the title would be way to long. will update it later on today and whatsup with all those surgeries ppl r having lately, even i had one 2 weeks ago due to my broken arm Quote
Flutterz Posted February 12, 2014 Author Posted February 12, 2014 Looks like I'm now the one who started this topic! Quote
Tom Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 Looks like I'm now the one who started this topic! im so proud of u Quote
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