kyrt Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 10 hours to go, no word from Sekai Project/Denpasoft on how the whole coupon/voucher thing will actually work, despite them saying they'd talk about that before the project is over. I wonder how many potential sales from people who only want the 18+ version they're missing. At this point, if you're only interested in the 18+ version, I suggest you don't back this or you pull out. There's no guarantee that you'll actually get what you want. I would recommend against doing this as there is plenty of evidence where will be getting an 18+ version. Denpa Soft has already said and from the recent post by Frontwing's President about bringing other titles westward as well you have to realize besides grisaia and their other series the only all ages title they still have is time leap which was for 360/ps3. The rest of their titles are 18+. I imagine that we'll be seeing an announcement of the 18+ version releasing via denpasoft probably at one of the upcoming conventions (more news I mean). Even if it doesn't this still shows other japanese companies that the west does have an interest in visual novels in the west. So I urge you to keep your pledge for the future of visual novels in general plus just wait and see. cancel if you must. This company tried to give 18+ dakimakuras to backers...there is no way they won't release the 18+ version for more profit. Quote
Decay Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 You misunderstand, I know that an 18+ version will be released. But if you back the kickstarter, you might not get it. So if you only want that 18+ version, don't back the kickstarter. Instead, wait for its release and buy it then. Quote
Lambda Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 10 hours to go, no word from Sekai Project/Denpasoft on how the whole coupon/voucher thing will actually work, despite them saying they'd talk about that before the project is over. I wonder how many potential sales from people who only want the 18+ version they're missing. At this point, if you're only interested in the 18+ version, I suggest you don't back this or you pull out. There's no guarantee that you'll actually get what you want. I'd try at the $1 level, if possible/you want to go down in tiers, to see if there's any news and interesting Kickstarter-only things... Quote
Deep Blue Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 The best thing to do now is back it with only 1 dollar (what I did) and wait for their response. Quote
Decay Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 The best thing to do from a consumer point of view is not waste any unnecessary money and wait until they're actually selling the 18+ version. What's the rush, why try to get in on the kickstarter now if what they currently have to offer isn't what you want? Also I kinda don't like sekai project being rewarded for making yet another promise they couldn't keep. Quote
kyrt Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Sekai Project is hosting a panel at 6 pm PST at AOD San Franciso convention and I believe a lot of the information we've been waiting for will be revealed there. Or at least they might clarify a bit. You might not want to fully consider it a lost cause. They could announce something at this panel and it would be well within their time table...it also explains why they haven't really been answering tweets the last day or so probably been busy. if you want visual novels for porn that's your prerogative...I prefer story and characters (sex can easily have its uses beyond porn but very little story/character development occurs in Grisaia's sex scenes...at least for the first game...they've also said they plan to release it so not sure what the deal is) I am interested in checking out new content; so I'm backing both versions. It's a small sacrifice if it means it has potential to bring more vns westward. Quote
Decay Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 The kickstarter would only have a few hours left on it by the time the panel ends. That's not well within their time table, that's cutting it so close it's irresponsible. It takes a while for information from an offline event not many people know about to diffuse onto the internet. I find it hard to believe they'll use that panel to employ very time-sensitive marketing strategies. Although it's such an incredibly bad idea, it's almost believable. They haven't been answering tweets today because everyone is busy at the expo. Pretty poor planning on their part to schedule the end of the project for today. Quote
jjm152 Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Sekai Project is hosting a panel at 6 pm PST at AOD San Franciso convention and I believe a lot of the information we've been waiting for will be revealed there. Or at least they might clarify a bit. You might not want to fully consider it a lost cause. They could announce something at this panel and it would be well within their time table...it also explains why they haven't really been answering tweets the last day or so probably been busy. if you want visual novels for porn that's your prerogative...I prefer story and characters. So I'm backing both versions. It's a small sacrifice if it means it has potential to bring more vns westward. Kind of offended at the concept that the only possible reason to include sexual material in a novel would be for pornographic purposes. I mean, it's not like sex has ever been a major part of any plot of any particular piece of important literature.Right? Quote
Decay Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Kind of offended at the concept that the only possible reason to include sexual material in a novel would be for pornographic purposes. I mean, it's not like sex has ever been a major part of any plot of any particular piece of important literature.Right? To be fair, Grisaia tells nothing important during the sex scenes that couldn't be told in a toned-down MPAA R rated version. Sex is a major plot device in many stories, yet they always stop short of actually turning it into extended pornographic sequences like VNs do. But this is an entirely off-topic subject and shouldn't be explored any further in this thread. Quote
Deep Blue Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 I can agree that the eroge scenes don't add anything to the novel itself, in fact some of them ruins the plot. the michuru's scene for example when she comes out from the ground.still im not ok with any kind of censorship. Quote
kyrt Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 I can agree that the eroge scenes don't add anything to the novel itself, in fact some of them ruins the plot. the michuru's scene for example when she comes out from the ground.still im not ok with any kind of censorship. It's not censorship since they are still releasing the other version if it gets funded...also it's more kickstarter's fault than Frontwing's in this instance. Anyone know if there's anywhere to read about their panel once it's over? Or do we have to wait for them to say something... Quote
Decay Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Kickstarter never disapproved of having 18+ Grisaia be a part of the campaign. They've allowed other eroge to be kickstarted, even stuff with no all-ages versions. I don't know how you can say it's more KS's fault than Frontwing's. At their panel they announced some more short doujin stuff. I don't think there was much besides that. Quote
Suzu Fanatic Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 If I had to guess, I figure Frontwing wants to get paid a seperate fee for the +18 version - and SP is relying on the Kickstarter funds for financing that. Would explain why they won't say anything yet, as they need to know what is absolutely certain financailly. Quote
Deep Blue Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 I dont think they will reach the 500k but it's gonna be close, almost like clannad, considering the differences between the two novels and the harm about the restriction age thing(Im sure they lost a good chunk of backers because of that), they ended up doing pretty well. Quote
Decay Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 If I had to guess, I figure Frontwing wants to get paid a seperate fee for the +18 version - and SP is relying on the Kickstarter funds for financing that. Would explain why they won't say anything yet, as they need to know what is absolutely certain financailly. Well, that would be pretty deceptive since the 18+ version was declared as something that would happen no matter what, as long as the base goal was reached. I'll at least take them for their word on that. Quote
Famichip Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 $475,254 with 4,347 backers, the KS finally ends. Now time to start waiting for that 18+ version info... Quote
Darklord Rooke Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Over $100 per backer. Impressive. Quote
Kosakyun Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 They better not let down all those backers. I can imagine the riot that's going to happen once they do. Quote
sanahtlig Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Kickstarter never disapproved of having 18+ Grisaia be a part of the campaign. They've allowed other eroge to be kickstarted, even stuff with no all-ages versions. I don't know how you can say it's more KS's fault than Frontwing's. Kickstarter wouldn't even let Sekai Project have nude dakimakura as an addon, if I recall correctly. Grisaia 18+ version has hardcore pornography. Quote
LiquidShu Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Well I ended up not backing as money will be tight for some time. I really wanted the Michiru wallscroll but oh well. I will just buy them when I can. Quote
Roanstalker Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Anyone know if the OST will be sold separately later on? Didn't have the funds to go any higher. Quote
Suzu Fanatic Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Anyone know if the OST will be sold separately later on? Didn't have the funds to go any higher. They might add it to the backerkits as an option, otherwise might luck out and see it as a Steam purchase way down the road. Quote
Erogamer Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 Well, when they release the 18 + physical copies, I am buying them for sure. Quote
Nosebleed Posted February 1, 2015 Posted February 1, 2015 I'm afraid of Denpasoft only selling physical copies like they did with Nekopara. It would really suck for me, I don't want to pay absurd shipping fees.. Quote
Suzu Fanatic Posted February 2, 2015 Posted February 2, 2015 I'm afraid of Denpasoft only selling physical copies like they did with Nekopara. It would really suck for me, I don't want to pay absurd shipping fees.. Oh no... :X i wasen't aware of that. That's pretty cringe worthy... Maybe I should have backed the physical copy with the "extra slip" in the collectors box... Dont want to, but I may have to rely on yarharfiddledeedee if it's physical only. (where I live, import and exports are "very" strict when it comes to adult content. Quote
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