Kenshin_sama Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Don't tell them that! People will never leave me alone. ;_; Quote
Ceris Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Pro tip : Multi with Kenshin, you'll rank up 800 900 ranks =3I think you just need maps that can give you PP, you're waaaay better than me, so if I can get 20k, you can easily make it a lot higher if you get the right maps. Quote
Kenshin_sama Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 Yep. If there's one thing I'm really good at, it's finding maps that'll get you PP. This won't always be the case, but if you can sort out the maps that are easier to FC and have a higher star rating than what's on your best performance list, you'll get PP from FC'ing it. This may be a pain to set it up initially, but making collections for practice maps will make the process a lot easier. Quote
Ceris Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 Yep. If there's one thing I'm really good at, it's finding maps that'll get you PP. This won't always be the case, but if you can sort out the maps that are easier to FC and have a higher star rating than what's on your best performance list, you'll get PP from FC'ing it. This may be a pain to set it up initially, but making collections for practice maps will make the process a lot easier.My problem is, my best performances are all like 4.4* songs, and I can play ~4.8 relatively well, but I'll ALWAYS get 2-4 misses, making it worth nothing, but then I'll FC something easier and it just isn't satisfying, so I don't do it. And if I do a 1-time FC on a song, it never gives me any PP anyway despite me feeling it was harder than my best performances. Hence why my rank just plummets. Quote
ryouuuuu Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 YOOO Check out this blast from the past that I just found on ny facebook XD THAT RANK 78k IS OP LOL A RANK ON HARD WTF Â Quote
Kenshin_sama Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 My problem is, my best performances are all like 4.4* songs, and I can play ~4.8 relatively well, but I'll ALWAYS get 2-4 misses, making it worth nothing, but then I'll FC something easier and it just isn't satisfying, so I don't do it. And if I do a 1-time FC on a song, it never gives me any PP anyway despite me feeling it was harder than my best performances. Hence why my rank just plummets.That's probably a better range than I have. My best performances are between 3.4 and 3.7, and I can play up to 4.3. But that's perfectly normal. The more proficient you get at playing harder maps, the easier it'll be to get higher performance on easier maps. But with easier maps, the challenge isn't to complete them, but to get the highest combo you can from them. The focus required to get an FC makes it that much harder to acquire than simply completing a harder map (those require more skill than focus). Now, sometimes you'll have those days where you're just completely awesome and can FC harder maps, I've done it a few times as well, lol. But that's not something that happens regularly, and the only way you'll be able to consistently FC maps that are higher than your best performances is to just go for ones that are only somewhat harder. Like I'll literally go and FC maps that are only .01 - .1 star rating higher than my best performance. It's very slow, and very gradual, but it works. Here's another thing I picked up too. You don't necessarily have to spend a lot of time on one map trying to FC it. Your main goal is to build as high a combo as possible within a certain number of tries. Grinding a map for over an hour might be good for PP farming, but it's not necessary for improvement and may even be detrimental. If you fail to FC a map, it's because you're either not use to it, or you have bad habits that are getting in the way. If it's for the former, then you should be able to FC it after a good number of tries, if it's the later, then you'll want to limit your retries and move on to another map. One good way to determine whether it's a habit or not is by looking at your local scores. If your combo is going in a negative trend, then you're messing up out of habit. If you move on to another map with a similar difficulty, then you won't have to worry about that habit getting in the way and you can continue on with your progression for FC'ing maps. But FC practice is only good for getting your mind use to building high combos. You'll still want to balance this out by playing maps that are really hard to play. Edit: You know, my range might be better off if it weren't for my chair situation. I was only just recently able to play 4.3 maps, but I haven't had a good FC in a while. I pretty much broke the handle on my chair (I lean on it way too much) and it's suppose to act as a support for the back. With that out of commission, I'm now using a chair from my dining room table, and it's a little more elevated than I'm use to at my desk. I can still complete harder maps fairly decently, but I still haven't completely gotten comfortable enough to FC maps. But my pay comes in next month and I'll eventually go back to the usual. ^^YOOO Check out this blast from the past that I just found on ny facebook XD THAT RANK 78k IS OP LOL A RANK ON HARD WTFWth? Damn. o.o Quote
Pentinor Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Welp cramming for my job interview went well, managed to nail the inerview which almost game me a panic attack the night before. They decided to go with someone else with more experience (because I have literally 0) but theres 2 more spots opening up, one at the end of december and the other around march, so gonna keep on cramming and tring to get it. On topic tho...Bought a new super comfy chair but the only downside is the way the arm rests are shaped, they make it hard to use my tablet...cant spin for shit....gonna have to spend awhile trying to find the perfect setup so I can spin but still sit back in my chair and relax. Oh...and I didnt really like black bullet but the ED was soooo gewd Quote
Lewycool Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Can't play osu lately since it lags often :/ Quote
Guest Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 this map is too fun much xD (I had a 2million A score but failed at the END :'() Quote
Ceris Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Surprised to see this get ranked  http://osu.ppy.sh/s/189216  Really fun song, but I will never ever pass it. Only played it a few times with No Fail back when it was unranked. Quote
Pyonnu Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 I found a fun looking unranked 5.5 stared extra map if anyone wants to try it. I can't get three seconds in... https://osu.ppy.sh/s/206980  Also, has anyone here ever gotten so off-guard by a beatmap song that it caused them to mess up? https://osu.ppIy.sh/s/35375  This song caused me to mess up 20 seconds in because of... well... if you have heard it you would know >_> (It's still my most favorite thing ever though) Quote
Ceris Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Â First try on that first map. That part I failed at I really don't have a chance of passing. Quote
Kenshin_sama Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 I decided to give a new playstyle a try, and so far it's working out for me. Instead of using the left side of my keyboard, I decided to move over to the right and use 3 on the number pad. Bringing my hands in closer together makes it fairly easier to play. And after thinking it over some, I thought that maybe angling my keyboard a little more help me 2-key a little better. Compared to the last time I tried, I was able to adjust to 2-key a lot more easily using this method and I'm currently using 3 and 6 on the number pad for streams. Although I'm having a harder time on longer streams with using this method over keyclick, I'm hitting shorter ones with far better accuracy. Guess I'll just have to practice the traditional way until I can do longer streams, lol. Quote
Guest Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 ^Strange change. If I'm used to something I wouldn't change it.  If I could give an other advice it would be : train both your fingers. Being able to double tap decently is a huge bonus on 40% on the maps. -You can hit slow streams -You can hit very fast close jumps (more often) -You slider break less \o/  It allows me to pass harder maps consistently when I couldn't with single tapping.  Oh also, scarlet rose and dancing with a number ... SoonTM  Edit : hey there's a fancy new menu update !  Also   I found a fun looking unranked 5.5 stared extra map if anyone wants to try it. I can't get three seconds in... https://osu.ppy.sh/s/206980  This map is really fun ! It's not that hard until 3/4 through where it significantly speeds up, caught me off guard. I always fail around 4/5 of the song :/ They end is tough.  + NEVER forget do disable mouse buttons .... Quote
Kenshin_sama Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 ^Strange change. If I'm used to something I wouldn't change it.Well, that's the thing. When you're working on easier maps, it's hard to tell what kind of playstyle you'll need for harder ones. I'm not sure about the others, but I know cptnXn has experimented with higher DPI for speed jumps and occasionally makes a switch between tablet and mouse. This isn't the first time I've changed my playstyle either, and it worked out for me after a while. As long as you put in the effort to incorporate those changes into your muscle memory, it shouldn't hinder your progression in the game.If I could give an other advice it would be : train both your fingers.Being able to double tap decently is a huge bonus on 40% on the maps.-You can hit slow streams-You can hit very fast close jumps (more often)-You slider break less \o/I can see that being a possibility, but I really prefer singletap over alternating. It definitely has potential for fast singletap maps, but the confusion it adds could be a hindrance for consistency on the more complex maps. That and I've been working on my singletap a lot lately (DT helps), and I'm getting fairly faster at it. Here's a thread with a little more insight in that area. https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/142228I'm getting somewhat better at slider breaking too. I think that's more of a habit quirk than a playstyle one, you just have to be really attentive towards it. I eventually succumbed to that habit sometime down the road, but I've been slider breaking a lot less lately after I realized the problem.+ NEVER forget do disable mouse buttons ....Oh yeah, guess I won't be needing that anymore, lol. Actually, accidently clicking the mouse during faster singletaps use to kill me on those kinds of maps. ;_; Quote
Nagisa_Fawkes Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Man, my surprise today when I opened Osu and a stranger voice said "Welcome to Osu". 0_o Nice feature, though. Â EDIT: Surprised again by the "See you next time" xD Quote
Guest Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 I can see that being a possibility, but I really prefer singletap over alternating. It definitely has potential for fast singletap maps, but the confusion it adds could be a hindrance for consistency on the more complex maps. That and I've been working on my singletap a lot lately (DT helps), and I'm getting fairly faster at it. Here's a thread with a little more insight in that area. https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/142228 Â No, it's not aboutmastering both at the same time. I single tap but i'm able to also decently alternate. Â It's really important to be able to do both. At least decently. You won't be able to correctly space stream either otherwise. Â And no it adds absolutely no confusion, it increases stamina on high bpm maps cause you're able to rest your single tapping finger once in a while, it's only profit and no issues. Â also. To train single tap speed you have to play BPM +200 maps, it also helps train speed aiming, but it doesn't help improve aim. Speed is different from accuracy and aim. Quote
Kenshin_sama Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 You know, after crossing your statement over what's been said in the forum, I think you make a really valid point. The main concern with using alternate is that it, despite it potency, puts you in too much of a comfort zone to progress any further. But switching between that and singletap would overcome those barriers all while maintaining proficiency in the more potent style. Â Eh, it does for me. I did use it when I need to adjust to either form of doubletapping (for both keyclick or 2-key), but I never used it after that. There's a chance I may get more comfortable with it through practice though. I can definitely see it being viable for space streams since you'd be more accustomed to using both fingers with more spacing. I think I'll try working on both now. Thanks for the suggestion. Â Also, Doomsday rekt. Â https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxNXRCgeEWI Quote
ryouuuuu Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Afaik, you can alternate/singletap and still play at the same level, its just preference.I just singletap because alternating blows my brain ahaha Practice single tapping on Talent Shredder, it should do the trick lol It' a crazy good warmup map for aim and single tap stamina 8D And I wont ever be able to decently stream so RIP my speed, im concentrating on accuracy <3 (23 days last login, new olympic record) Quote
Ceris Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Also, Doomsday rekt. Â https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxNXRCgeEWI Considering his skill level, I'm surprised how bad he played at the end. I know the end is extremely hard, but he like completely panicked and just screwed the entire run's appearance anyway. Quote
Guest Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Considering his skill level, I'm surprised how bad he played at the end. I know the end is extremely hard, but he like completely panicked and just screwed the entire run's appearance anyway. Â As you say, the end is the hardest part in the entire map. But I'm pretty sure that without that part rrtyui would have SS'd the map way earlier. Â i'm not that surprised he missed it, I've seen lots of #100 miss it on stream Quote
Ceris Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 As you say, the end is the hardest part in the entire map. But I'm pretty sure that without that part rrtyui would have SS'd the map way earlier. Â i'm not that surprised he missed it, I've seen lots of #100 miss it on stream Quote
Kenshin_sama Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Players that have been around for a few years usually won't get too excited over most maps, but there are some maps can still turn out to be a mind game when you're going for high combos. I know cptnXn had a similar reaction when he was doing FD. Doomsday was probably just surprised as hell when he realized how well he was doing. Note his reaction when he started jumping up the leaderboard. Personally, whenever I see my score making it in the leaderboard at the end of a map, I tend to get a little shaky. It'd be a million times worse if I was climbing ranks when most of those scores aren't anywhere close to FC. Quote
Guest Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Players that have been around for a few years usually won't get too excited over most maps, but there are some maps can still turn out to be a mind game when you're going for high combos. I know cptnXn had a similar reaction when he was doing FD. Doomsday was probably just surprised as hell when he realized how well he was doing. Note his reaction when he started jumping up the leaderboard. Personally, whenever I see my score making it in the leaderboard at the end of a map, I tend to get a little shaky. It'd be a million times worse if I was climbing ranks when most of those scores aren't even 50% FC. Quote
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